NFL Wildcard Weekend

Oat23

Foxtrol wrote: »

Aside from the 4th quarter, I thought Trubisky was quite poor against a banged up secondary and was lucky to not give up multiple picks, though it is hard to assess how that injury impacted him. Don’t think Nagy called a great game either, in general being far more conservative than I hoped.

Trubisky must have thrown at least 15 dropped INTs over the season. It's definitely an area he needs to improve, but as you said in the 4th he showed his potential. He drove the team down the field with the game on the line and put them in a position to win without his favourite receiver and an ineffective Cohen. This is only year 1 in a complicated system and if you go back and watch how he played in it week 1, then watch the week 17 game the difference is night and day. He'll continue to improve.

Nagy made the same mistakes he made with the Chiefs last season despite saying all week he wouldn't. Howard had 10 carries which is insane.

His playcalling needs to improve big time going forward.

Itssoeasy wrote: »

Well the asumption would be that had it not been tipped(and it was barely tipped) that the ball would have gone through.

If he didn't kick it high enough it's still on the kicker. Jay Feely has said the same on twitter. I haven't got the heart to look at it again but Feely says there was no penetration at the line which means the line did their job.

At the end of the day the guy missed 10 kicks in 16 games before last night. He has hit the post 6 bloody times. He spent half the season practicing kicks at the practice facility because there was too much traffic and he didn't feel like driving to Soldier Field to practice even though it's a hard place to kick.

He's the 9th highest paid kicker and the 2nd worst statistically. He has to go.

cosatron

Oat23 wrote: »

Why is it automatically not Parkey's fault because it was tipped? Perhaps he should have kicked it higher?

Parkey can now join the nfc norths house of pain with Blair Walsh and Brandon Bostick

Foxtrol

Oat23 wrote: »

Why is it automatically not Parkey's fault because it was tipped? Perhaps he should have kicked it higher?

It depends if that is the normal trajectory of his kicks. Trying to mess with your fundamentals in a high-pressure situation in case someone else might not do their job is exactly when you would miss.

raze_them_all_

Oat23 wrote: »

Why is it automatically not Parkey's fault because it was tipped? Perhaps he should have kicked it higher?

You see those fat ****ers in front of him facing the same way. Those are called blockers. They are there to stop the opposing team from getting to the ball

Oat23

raze_them_all_ wrote: »

You see those fat ****ers in front of him facing the same way. Those are called blockers. They are there to stop the opposing team from getting to the ball

They did block. The only thing Hester did was get his hand up which happens on every field goal kicked. If the line blocks then surely it's on the kicker to make sure he kicks it high enough to avoid the hands.

Unless Hester is some physical freak that can vertical jump higher than anyone in the league and he made an abnormally great play to block it, Parkey didn't kick it high enough.

raze_them_all_

Oat23 wrote: »

They did block. The only thing Hester did was get his hand up which happens on every field goal kicked. If the line blocks then surely it's on the kicker to make sure he kicks it high enough to avoid the hands.

Unless Hester is some physical freak that can vertical jump higher than anyone in the league and he made an abnormally great play to block it, Parkey didn't kick it high enough.

Blocking needs to be more than just stopping penetration. Lads can be stopped from getting hands up, you've the give the kicker the best chance of getting it over. I can't remember if he was kicking into wind as I wasn't paying too much attention but if he was he might of lowered his height of the kick for distance which is a thing most kickers do

Oat23

raze_them_all_ wrote: »

Blocking needs to be more than just stopping penetration. Lads can be stopped from getting hands up, you've the give the kicker the best chance of getting it over. I can't remember if he was kicking into wind as I wasn't paying too much attention but if he was he might of lowered his height of the kick for distance which is a thing most kickers do

You can stop a player from getting their hands up by holding them, sure. But that raises a new problem. Every single field goal has raised hands. Every single one. You're acting like it's abnormal to see the defense attempt to block a kick with their hands because the kicking team's lineman stop them from doing it. They don't. It happens every single game and the kicks are rarely blocked because the kicker kicks over the hands.

There was a slight breeze blowing left to right and it was a 43 yarder which any kicker should be able to make.

Hazys

Its debatable whether if a ball is tipped its the kickers fault or not. There is only so high they can kick it at certain distances before they sacrifice length and accuracy. Not to mention how much of their mechanics they want to mess with for the longer kicks by constantly changing the mechanics for kicks at different distances.

If it gets blocked on an extra point it would be nearly always be the kicker's fault as they have so much more leeway with distance and accuracy to kick it a little higher than they need to.

Parker was 43 yards out, not a massive distance but also not a chip shot. So its very hard to say. Also what if the defender happened to gets to get a good well timed jump and is a foot higher than the average defender on FG block attempts? Does the kicker need to account for that too?

The debate is how much is it the kicker's fault versus a good defensive play? Its not a straight forward answer because its could be all on one side or the other or its a grey are with bit of both? 50/50? 90/10?

I think its too simplistic to say if a FG is blocked, its always 100% the kicker's fault. You would never say if a pass is intercepted it's always 100% the QB's fault.

Paully D

https://twitter.com/tompelissero/status/1082095071326097409?s=21

A class act :rolleyes:

Knex*

Chargers defenders saw that Baltimore’s offense, though complex, seemed to change little week to week. They solved parts of it and picked up clues, like left tackle Ronnie Stanley’s feet. When Stanley set them about even, it was a run, and when he set his left foot further back, it was a pass “almost 100 percent” of the time.

And when the Ravens ran out of the pistol formation, a tight end in the backfield on the same side as the tight end at the line of scrimmage almost always meant one of two running plays: “counter” or “cut belly.” On Sunday, players said it was as if Baltimore changed nothing from the first game."

From The Athletic (which is a paywall site). Saw the snippet on reddit and said I'd share.

Billy86

How does Jason Peters still do it? He`s got to be half man, half inanimate carbon rod at this point with all the injuries and wear and tear, plays against Khalil Mack who has been a complete brute to more or less everyone for the entire season (even by his own standards), and keeps him at bay single handedly for almost the entire game. Crazy for a guy who turns 37 two days after the conference games.

Of course, there`s also a good chance that if the Eagles make it, Peters will be the younger of the two LTs in the game as Andrew Whitworth - also still playing at a high level - turned 37 about three weeks ago.

Paully D

Knex. wrote: »

From The Athletic (which is a paywall site). Saw the snippet on reddit and said I'd share.

Romo said similar on the call, without getting into the specifics. He also felt the Browns had figured it out towards the end of last week’s game vs the Ravens, and that the Chargers had developed it further from the tape of that.

It took half a season, but plan A has been figured out. Big offseason for the Ravens offensive coaching staff coming up in trying to develop a plan B, C and D around Lamar.

mikemac2

mikemac2 wrote: »

Texans
Seahawks
Ravens
Bears

Seahawks my only road team pick

0/4

Shows what I know

Paully D

Good thread here:

https://twitter.com/geoffschwartz/status/1082662236689219584?s=21