Saturday 29h December

RivetingRoger

Petit Mouchoir 25/1..........wow

Just........wow ! State of that race !

madmoose

RivetingRoger wrote: »

Petit Mouchoir 25/1..........wow

Just........wow ! State of that race !

33/1 i see, it didn’t do Brain Power any harm dropping back to hurdles i suppose ha!

longshotvalue

RivetingRoger wrote: »

Petit Mouchoir 25/1..........wow

Just........wow ! State of that race !

Serious chance in this tomorrow, probably beats Samcro on form.

longshotvalue

aidankkk wrote: »

Serious chance in this tomorrow, probably beats Samcro on form.

Gone for a few days, but

Leop 2:30 Saturday

Petit Mouchoir is one of my few horses for the season to follow. On Hurdles form he is maybe 2nd best here behind Melon. If he is anywhere near right 33/1 is going to look huge.

1 Point win 33/1 Boyles 28/1 365/sky/vc

ready4liftoff

Just backed Iain Jardine's horse Bedrock at 14/1 in the 2:30 at Leopardstown on the nose for Saturday. Will love the quick ground and the track I feel. Many question marks over the rest of the runners especially Samcro and Melon who would appreciate plenty of cut in the ground which they will not get tomorrow.

Angliru

In two minds about tomorrow. In one way I want to see Samcro hack up but on the other hand I want to see him beat as it means they'll have to send him over fences unless they've lost all brain cells.

Fanny Wank

Angliru wrote: »

In two minds about tomorrow. In one way I want to see Samcro hack up but on the other hand I want to see him beat as it means they'll have to send him over fences unless they've lost all brain cells.

Zero chance he goes chasing this season IMO

Shemale

Class, was just popping in to give a heads up on Petit Mouchoir, hard to fancy top two given trainers form. Henry and Mark at top of their games this week.

Morleystreet

RivetingRoger wrote: »

Petit Mouchoir 25/1..........wow

Just........wow ! State of that race !

See that PP paying 3 places for that race.

longshotvalue

Morleystreet wrote: »

See that PP paying 3 places for that race.

Wish I'd seen that earlier . Worthy of a decent bet

Gringo180

Supasundae surely one of the most under rated horses in training he should be half his current odds for tomorrow. He will be finishing quickest 2mro.

Limestone1

A six horse race and the outsider is most posted about on here! Petit is intriguing on hurdle form but I like Samcro and I like supasundae ..... I am heading up tomorrow for the hurdle race and I can't have one .............

Andrew00

Enniscoffey Oscar.

BumperD

Between supasundae and sharja for me but I don’t have a strong view.

jobeenfitz

Anyone got anything in the 1.30 Doncaster? Ladbrokes returning stake as free bet on all losers, online accounts.

tinpib

Bedrock declared a non runner at 10:05am in the 230pm big race at Leop, the Petit Mouchoir race. So only 6 going and as of right now PP still saying they pay out 3 places?

edit: yes, according to their t&c's they still pay out 3 places with 6 runners. That's class. Would ahve been some value if Samcro or Min was taken out.

Slattsy

Thank God this thread has the day of the week in it.

OsmosisJ

Nobody home in the first at leopardstown 11/2

Dairef143

Tips for next race ? Looking at myth buster

Chesty08

Defi Blue 2.10 Limerick

Samcro 2.30 Leop

Prevalugana 1.00 Limerick

Golden card 2.00 Donny

Sandy Beach 2.25 Newbury

Enniscoffey Oscar 3.15 Doncaster

Polydora 3.35 Newbury

ON ZEE BRIDLE

Castlebawn West 3/1 win

ON ZEE BRIDLE

Nice to have a winner there.I just cant warm to Samcro and think Melon is better value at 5/2.Samcro reminds of a big burly Gaa player and not a slick hurdler.Limini and Delta Work look solid but are to short in the market, watching brief for Cheltenham only!

Dairef143

ON ZEE BRIDLE wrote: »

Castlebawn West 3/1 win

Gent

ON ZEE BRIDLE

Coeur Blimey looks to have a decent chance in 1.50 at Newbury based on Hereford win lto.If the horse was trained by a more fashionable trainer it would be favourite.9/2 win bet.

Angliru

Another filthy drift there on Limini and looked dreadful

Gringo180

Angliru wrote: »

Another filthy drift there on Limini and looked dreadful

There scum.

Gringo180

143 rated and giving Limini 6 lbs my god how does Walsh and Mullins get away with it :pac:

mirwillbeback

Gringo180 wrote: »

There scum.

They’re

famagusta

I can't understand how samcro is fav, I think melon and supa have it between them

Shemale

I wish she would move PM up the field

Shemale

What a big ball of ****, out for a spin

Angliru

Give the boy fences for f*cks sake

OsmosisJ

Samcro is a myth, **** race he won a Cheltenham and I guarantee he won't be any better over fences

BumperD

BumperD wrote: »

Between supasundae and sharja for me but I don’t have a strong view.

Ha didn’t have a cent on

ON ZEE BRIDLE

Ltown really is a punters graveyard, between Ruby falling and Mullins second string shenanigans, small stakes the way to go

ON ZEE BRIDLE

Gallant Joe nice ew price 8/1 here, could be well hcapped

Shemale

Anyone see the bit on Dr McGoldrick retiring and they did the presentation, Ruby has a head like a slapped arse and has a look at the RTE camera sees it's not on him and stern face stays and then spys the photographers and then slowly paints a fake smile on him.

ON ZEE BRIDLE

He is a horrible greedy **** shemale and im being generous cus its Xmas

ON ZEE BRIDLE

Gallant Joe second so small profit.Have to take the Mullins jolly on in the bumper, Meticulous won well in Killarney so will back him to win 5/4

HarshOstrich

Castlenorth was out for a nice spin in the limerick countryside there, that place is ridiculous, if your not prominent your screwed, can’t understand how jockeys who are on horses prominent in the betting are happy to get a starting position at the back of the field.

Nulty

So many races were run slowly at this festival.

Slattsy

BumperD wrote: »

Ha didn’t have a cent on

I admire your honestly.

I on the other hand went through the card!

Samcro eh. They've ruined him.

BumperD

He seems goosed for sure. Sharja will have to lineup March but that’s a very long season

tipptom

HarshOstrich wrote: »

Castlenorth was out for a nice spin in the limerick countryside there, that place is ridiculous, if your not prominent your screwed, can’t understand how jockeys who are on horses prominent in the betting are happy to get a starting position at the back of the field.

Looks like the plan was to try and settle it out the back as it seems a hard puller,couldnt settle it and it all turned to sh*t turning in.

Maybe Paddy gave him his riding instructions as he rode the talking horse Mt Leinster in a similar fashion at Leopardstown.

Hydes should probably have won that Limerick bumper with a stronger jockey.

Andrew00

This is the worst National Hunt season in terms of quality for a long long time.

No superstars (bar Altior), lots of big races being won by absolute dogs

Angliru

There's definitely been a lack of eye catching performances from the big dogs. Thistlecrack has been a breath of fresh air in returning to good form, it sickens me to think what the horse could have achieved if he stayed healthy 2 years ago. Apples Jade is having a fine term too. But far too many not firing at all. Even the novices are underwhelming. The novices from last year are struggling now, God only knows how bad this years crop will be next year. Battleoverdoyen looks like it might have something but you cannot judge it yet.

Some good news regarding Samcro:


I don't see why they'd put him away for the year. If they still want to be stubborn then throw him into the stayers this year and let Apples Jade go to the Champion Hurdle considering how weak it looks again this year and hope Buvuer D'Air is out of sorts like he was this March. Samcro is only a month younger than Apples Jade, they can't afford putting him away for a year.

NaiveMelodies

They can easily be patient, have a wide array of festival horses and will put him away if thats what they feel is best.
The way he's found very little off the bridle this season suggests the obvious answer isn't fences and that there might be an underlying issue or just isn't very good.

Francie Barrett

Angliru wrote: »

Some good news regarding Samcro:


I don't see why they'd put him away for the year. If they still want to be stubborn then throw him into the stayers this year and let Apples Jade go to the Champion Hurdle considering how weak it looks again this year and hope Buvuer D'Air is out of sorts like he was this March. Samcro is only a month younger than Apples Jade, they can't afford putting him away for a year.

Watched the replay a couple of times, horse travelled great, jumped hurdles just fine, but found nothing when put to the test against genuinely speedy two milers. If Downroyal was the warning, then the Fighting Fifth should have confirmed that this horse needed to run over 2 and a 1/2 miles at least, like it did when winning the Ballymore last year. I have no doubt that it's Eddie's and Michael's doing that this horse has went down the Champion Hurdle route. Clearly the horse is a square peg in a round hole but I don't necessarily see how putting it over fences is going to lead to improvement.

RivetingRoger

So.....

Beni to represent WPM in mares alongside maybe Limini
Laurina to go CH with real chance along with melon (sharjah surely unlikely given its running for months already)
AJ to chance CH also now maybe with Samcro SURELY pulled
Supasundae to stay at 2m

Make sense?????

EICVD

RivetingRoger wrote: »

So.....

Beni to represent WPM in mares alongside maybe Limini
Laurina to go CH with real chance along with melon (sharjah surely unlikely given its running for months already)
AJ to chance CH also now maybe with Samcro SURELY pulled
Supasundae to stay at 2m

Make sense?????

Surely you’ve got to let Sharjah take his chance after winning the Morgiana & today. Give him a break & not run again until March.

HarshOstrich

EICVD wrote: »

Surely you’ve got to let Sharjah take his chance after winning the Morgiana & today. Give him a break & not run again until March.

I agree, I was considering backing him last night but when I saw Patrick on him it threw me, I know Townend was in limerick but I taught if they actually fancied him they would have put a senior jockey on him, but he was so impressive and will continue to be under estimated, if ruby chooses Laurina at Cheltenham I will go Sharjah.