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Foggy windshield

  • 16-12-2018 11:35pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,915 ✭✭✭


    So as the weather is getting cold, my cars windshield is all fogged up in the mornings, I need to run heating for 2 min or so to get rid of it.
    I tried antiFog by Rain X last year with little help.

    Is there any other coating or trick to avoid getting foggy windshield?


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Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,598 ✭✭✭the_pen_turner


    use air con and get a dehumidifier for the car


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,915 ✭✭✭masterboy123


    Will it put alot of strain on the engine if I use aircon on cold engine?

    And can you suggest a dehumidifier please?
    use air con and get a dehumidifier for the car


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,118 ✭✭✭✭Seve OB


    Get a shammey


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,363 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    When was the last time the cabin/pollen filter was changed?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,157 ✭✭✭✭Alanstrainor


    Just use A/C, turn it on full blast straight away. A/C is a dehumidifier, you don't need to buy anything else. Once your A/C is working correctly you should be golden. Probably best to just leave it on tbh.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,915 ✭✭✭masterboy123


    Will it effect engine on long term by any chance?

    Usually I would turn on AC when car is warm enough.

    I had pollen filter changed 9 months ago.
    Just use A/C, turn it on full blast straight away. A/C is a dehumidifier, you don't need to buy anything else. Once your A/C is working correctly you should be golden. Probably best to just leave it on tbh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,598 ✭✭✭the_pen_turner


    Will it put alot of strain on the engine if I use aircon on cold engine?

    And can you suggest a dehumidifier please?

    any motor factors will have a desicant type.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,598 ✭✭✭the_pen_turner


    Just use A/C, turn it on full blast straight away. A/C is a dehumidifier, you don't need to buy anything else. Once your A/C is working correctly you should be golden. Probably best to just leave it on tbh.

    i would still add a back up one . it will be working away even if the car isnt used.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,157 ✭✭✭✭Alanstrainor


    Will it effect engine on long term by any chance?

    Usually I would turn on AC when car is warm enough.

    I had pollen filter changed 9 months ago.

    No it will not do any harm.

    You can buy a dehumidifier, but honestly I reckon it's just a waste of money. The A/C will do it's job without any need for any extras. If you were going to spend money I'd get the A/C regassed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,915 ✭✭✭masterboy123


    Ok, will try tomorrow morning. Will set AC temperature to 25 C as I don't want to feel the cold air :)
    No it will not do any harm.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,520 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    Ok, will try tomorrow morning. Will set AC temperature to 25 C as I don't want to feel the cold air :)

    It’ll be cold air whatever you set the temp to, as engine will be cold so your heater won’t heat the air.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46 Bill nye


    Also when you get a chance to, clean the car. Vacuum the mats and give the inside of the windscreen a good clean and ensure it's dried properly afterwards. It will make a massive difference in the morning.

    Wet shoes from these mornings are leaving mats damp etc and this contributes towards moisture in the cabin. As suggested earlier, swap your cabin pollen filter out for a new one from a motor factors. Usually cost around €10 and simple to replace. Ensure any damp coats are removed and not left in car overnight etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,102 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    Seve OB wrote: »
    Get a shammey

    That's the worst thing possible for a foggy window.


    The only way to have a clear windscreen is to clean the inside throughly and then never touch it again till you are cleaning it again, the fog will clear with the blower and faster with AC. Dirt/dust on the screen is what the condensation is sticking to.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,357 ✭✭✭✭SteelyDanJalapeno


    Just to add to the clean the car comment, it's because there's moisture in the car somewhere, a good trick I use is get the engine warmed up and then when you have 15-20 minutes, leave the car running idle turn the heaters on max heat for the feet setting and open the windows an inch or 2.

    The circulating hot air will bring out any moisture in the car and dry your carpets well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,795 ✭✭✭Isambard


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    It’ll be cold air whatever you set the temp to, as engine will be cold so your heater won’t heat the air.

    i'm guessing the problem is the vents aren't on "screen" based on that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,915 ✭✭✭masterboy123


    I have vacuumed the mats, you're right they are bit damp.

    Is it easy to replace cabin pollen filter in a Benz C class, 151 model?
    Bill nye wrote: »
    Also when you get a chance to, clean the car. Vacuum the mats and give the inside of the windscreen a good clean and ensure it's dried properly afterwards. It will make a massive difference in the morning.

    Wet shoes from these mornings are leaving mats damp etc and this contributes towards moisture in the cabin. As suggested earlier, swap your cabin pollen filter out for a new one from a motor factors. Usually cost around €10 and simple to replace. Ensure any damp coats are removed and not left in car overnight etc.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,471 ✭✭✭EdgeCase


    Put AC on recirculation, close the doors and windows and it should remove the moisture from the air inside the cabin.

    The windows should clear really fast as the air dehumidifies. It doesn't even need to be set particularly hot to do this. Just a comfortable temp.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,795 ✭✭✭Isambard


    I have vacuumed the mats, you're right they are bit damp.

    Is it easy to replace cabin pollen filter in a Benz C class, 151 model?

    that should be done as part of the service .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,915 ✭✭✭masterboy123


    That's due in March. Will wait so.

    Thanks everyone
    Isambard wrote: »
    that should be done as part of the service .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,102 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    That's due in March. Will wait so.

    Thanks everyone

    That's 4 months of foggy windows. It should be straightforward to change the pollen filter. Check the owners manual it'll have instructions, it shouldn't require any tools.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,749 ✭✭✭corks finest


    EdgeCase wrote: »
    Put AC on recirculation, close the doors and windows and it should remove the moisture from the air inside the cabin.

    The windows should clear really fast as the air dehumidifies. It doesn't even need to be set particularly hot to do this. Just a comfortable temp.
    I'm doing it wrong so,I put AC on as normal ( air set coming into car from outside) thought that was the proper way? So after condensation evaporates,u switch AC back to normal?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,520 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    I'm doing it wrong so,I put AC on as normal ( air set coming into car from outside) thought that was the proper way? So after condensation evaporates,u switch AC back to normal?

    What that’s doing is processing the air (and thus some of the moisture) in the cabin through the air conditioner.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,755 ✭✭✭ianobrien


    OP, this is what would be doing.

    First step is clean the windscreen properly inside (get AutoGlym Fast Glass or equivalent) and then don't touch the glass again (unless it's to clean with more glass cleaner).

    Second is to leave the climate control on auto with the temperature set to what's comfortable (mine is 18C) with the a/c on. I've the recirculation set to auto also.

    Third is use the windscreen button on the HVAC controls. That's designed to clear windscreens. Once clear, switch the HVAC back to auto (with a/c on)

    Result is clear windscreen, always.

    You have made the classic mistake of thinking a/c just chills air. The a/c also dries the air and dried air then passes through the heater, meaning warm dry air. A/c is more useful in winter given our damp climate. Using the a/c is only a small load on the engine and isn't a problem having it on after start-up (if it was,it would be in the owners manual)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,088 ✭✭✭fjon


    Tips on how to do this if you don't have AC? I used to have it and it worked great, but now every day I have a very foggy car.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,755 ✭✭✭ianobrien


    fjon wrote: »
    Tips on how to do this if you don't have AC? I used to have it and it worked great, but now every day I have a very foggy car.

    Clean windscreen (use IPA to decrease) and a coating of CarPro FogFight. The FogFight works wonders. Then, don't touch the windscreen.

    Make sure the car is dry and use the recirculation to dry out the air in the car

    Also, never buy a car without a/c


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,483 ✭✭✭SweetCaliber


    I had this problem, got one of those dehumidifier bags in halfords, left it on the dash and the next morning no condensation and no foggy windscreen.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,639 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    fjon wrote: »
    Tips on how to do this if you don't have AC? I used to have it and it worked great, but now every day I have a very foggy car.
    Bring it back. The AC is clearly faulty.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,088 ✭✭✭fjon


    ELM327 wrote: »
    Bring it back. The AC is clearly faulty.

    It's a 10 year old car with 200,000km. The aircon motor/ compressor broke a year ago and I don't want to spend the €600 to replace it.
    Before it broke it worked wonderfully though - it's just the last month I've had foggy windows.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,749 ✭✭✭corks finest


    ianobrien wrote: »
    OP, this is what would be doing.

    First step is clean the windscreen properly inside (get AutoGlym Fast Glass or equivalent) and then don't touch the glass again (unless it's to clean with more glass cleaner).

    Second is to leave the climate control on auto with the temperature set to what's comfortable (mine is 18C) with the a/c on. I've the recirculation set to auto also.

    Third is use the windscreen button on the HVAC controls. That's designed to clear windscreens. Once clear, switch the HVAC back to auto (with a/c on)

    Result is clear windscreen, always.

    You have made the classic mistake of thinking a/c just chills air. The a/c also dries the air and dried air then passes through the heater, meaning warm dry air. A/c is more useful in winter given our damp climate. Using the a/c is only a small load on the engine and isn't a problem having it on after start-up (if it was,it would be in the owners manual)
    Thank you,cleared up that.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,749 ✭✭✭corks finest


    ianobrien wrote: »
    OP, this is what would be doing.

    First step is clean the windscreen properly inside (get AutoGlym Fast Glass or equivalent) and then don't touch the glass again (unless it's to clean with more glass cleaner).

    Second is to leave the climate control on auto with the temperature set to what's comfortable (mine is 18C) with the a/c on. I've the recirculation set to auto also.

    Third is use the windscreen button on the HVAC controls. That's designed to clear windscreens. Once clear, switch the HVAC back to auto (with a/c on)

    Result is clear windscreen, always.

    You have made the classic mistake of thinking a/c just chills air. The a/c also dries the air and dried air then passes through the heater, meaning warm dry air. A/c is more useful in winter given our damp climate. Using the a/c is only a small load on the engine and isn't a problem having it on after start-up (if it was,it would be in the owners manual)
    Thank you,cleared up that.
    No, sticking it on recirc will make it worse if anything - remember that the air you breathe out is humidified with lung-juice (ick!)more conflict ING information I just copy and pasted from some car advice forum,I dunno


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,520 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    The only time I’d ever use the recirc feature is in heavy traffic, or if it’s particularly dusty, or if it’s really freezing outside.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,598 ✭✭✭the_pen_turner


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    The only time I’d ever use the recirc feature is in heavy traffic, or if it’s particularly dusty, or if it’s really freezing outside.

    me too or driving past a really smelly place


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,655 ✭✭✭Wildly Boaring


    fjon wrote: »
    It's a 10 year old car with 200,000km. The aircon motor/ compressor broke a year ago and I don't want to spend the €600 to replace it.
    Before it broke it worked wonderfully though - it's just the last month I've had foggy windows.

    Dry out car completely by cleaning out and airing mats and car.

    Clean windscreen once car is dry.

    Get cat litter. Put in a sock under seat. Change regularly. Or better yet on of those wee block dehumidifiers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,655 ✭✭✭Wildly Boaring


    Also cannot for thr life of me understand those who are forever messing about with settings when they have climate control.

    Push auto. Find the temp you like. Never touch again.

    In mornings push the front window demist button to blast the front window.

    My father, my wife and my boss are 3 drivers who cannot just do this.

    Wife drives me demented messing with temp. Gets in....up, 5 mins later down too far. eventually it's right but keeps slowing it or speeding it up. Turns off air con to save fuel....she only does 10k a year. Aaargh


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,819 ✭✭✭✭peasant


    and for those times wehen it's particularly fogged up and you need to leave in a hurry...get a small squeegy for inside the car


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,520 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    peasant wrote: »
    and for those times wehen it's particularly fogged up and you need to leave in a hurry...get a small squeegy for inside the car
    911145-E4-9-C67-42-E3-8216-95-A07-AE187-CD.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,749 ✭✭✭corks finest


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    The only time I’d ever use the recirc feature is in heavy traffic, or if it’s particularly dusty, or if it’s really freezing outside.

    me too or driving past a really smelly place
    Ah now oriel park isn't that bad,,,,,,is it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,749 ✭✭✭corks finest


    fjon wrote: »
    It's a 10 year old car with 200,000km. The aircon motor/ compressor broke a year ago and I don't want to spend the €600 to replace it.
    Before it broke it worked wonderfully though - it's just the last month I've had foggy windows.

    Dry out car completely by cleaning out and airing mats and car.

    Clean windscreen once car is dry.

    Get cat litter. Put in a sock under seat. Change regularly. Or better yet on of those wee block dehumidifiers.
    Heard about the cat litter alright


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,915 ✭✭✭masterboy123


    Thanks for the coincise and detailed response.

    I will get AutoGlym Fast Glass this weekend and also a demister block for car.

    I don't leave climate control on auto due to 2 reasons: strain on cold engine and economy on long term, which I think are false assumptions :)

    I am not familiar with recirculation button, I will send a photo of my control panel tomorrow.

    Many thanks everyone!! 😊
    ianobrien wrote: »
    OP, this is what would be doing.

    First step is clean the windscreen properly inside (get AutoGlym Fast Glass or equivalent) and then don't touch the glass again (unless it's to clean with more glass cleaner).

    Second is to leave the climate control on auto with the temperature set to what's comfortable (mine is 18C) with the a/c on. I've the recirculation set to auto also.

    Third is use the windscreen button on the HVAC controls. That's designed to clear windscreens. Once clear, switch the HVAC back to auto (with a/c on)

    Result is clear windscreen, always.

    You have made the classic mistake of thinking a/c just chills air. The a/c also dries the air and dried air then passes through the heater, meaning warm dry air. A/c is more useful in winter given our damp climate. Using the a/c is only a small load on the engine and isn't a problem having it on after start-up (if it was,it would be in the owners manual)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,655 ✭✭✭Wildly Boaring


    Thanks for the coincise and detailed response.

    I will get AutoGlym Fast Glass this weekend and also a demister block for car.

    I don't leave climate control on auto due to 2 reasons: strain on cold engine and economy on long term, which I think are false assumptions :)

    I am not familiar with recirculation button, I will send a photo of my control panel tomorrow.

    Many thanks everyone!! 😊


    Long term it may be better for fuel economy once you are turning off the aircon. But I don't know how much and I personally leave on at all times.

    Strain on engine? It's an electric fan and electric aircon unit. Doubt it's any particular strain.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51 ✭✭huberto


    Pingi Car Dehumidifier - less than a tenner from Amazon. Our Hyundai, like a previous Hyundai, used to be awash with condensation in cold weather.
    Got one of these and there’s no longer a problem. An indicator tells you every few weeks when it’s ‘full’, then stick it in the microwave for a couple of minutes and it’s ready to go again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,822 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    The only time I’d ever use the recirc feature is in heavy traffic, or if it’s particularly dusty, or if it’s really freezing outside.

    and it's bloody noisier too

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,638 ✭✭✭zilog_jones


    I don't leave climate control on auto due to 2 reasons: strain on cold engine and economy on long term, which I think are false assumptions :)

    I am not familiar with recirculation button, I will send a photo of my control panel tomorrow.

    The load on the engine to drive the aircon compressor is minuscule compared to what's required to actually move the car, I wouldn't worry about that at all. Being able to see out the windscreen is much more important than fuel consumption, and you'll probably barely notice a difference anyway.

    Setting climate control to auto should automatically direct the vents to the windscreen when cold.

    Don't use recirculate if you want to clear the windscreen, fresh air is faster.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,822 ✭✭✭✭galwaytt


    Thanks for the coincise and detailed response.

    I will get AutoGlym Fast Glass this weekend and also a demister block for car.

    I don't leave climate control on auto due to 2 reasons: strain on cold engine and economy on long term, which I think are false assumptions :)

    I am not familiar with recirculation button, I will send a photo of my control panel tomorrow.

    Many thanks everyone!! ��

    No point in having A/C with windscreen functions if you don't use them.

    Makes zero difference to the engine, economy maybe be a tiny amount (but more in hot weather than cold imho), and on auto probably no difference.

    There again, why buy a car with a/c if you're not using it ??

    Ode To The Motorist

    “And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, generates funds to the exchequer. You don't want to acknowledge that as truth because, deep down in places you don't talk about at the Green Party, you want me on that road, you need me on that road. We use words like freedom, enjoyment, sport and community. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent instilling those values in our families and loved ones. You use them as a punch line. I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the tax revenue and the very freedom to spend it that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said "thank you" and went on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a bus pass and get the ********* ********* off the road” 



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,639 ✭✭✭✭ELM327


    me too or driving past a really smelly place
    What do you use if the smelly place is originating inside the car though, smithwicks and kebab emissions :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,915 ✭✭✭masterboy123


    Weather was good this morning and didn't notice any significant fog.

    Will try to get Pingi Car Dehumidifier as mentioned in the above post, thanks!

    Here is the picture of the controllers. Do I leave it on Auto? And what's the use of the symbol "arrow within the car"?

    2exra00.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,749 ✭✭✭corks finest


    Weather was good this morning and didn't notice any significant fog.

    Will try to get Pingi Car Dehumidifier as mentioned in the above post, thanks!

    Here is the picture of the controllers. Do I leave it on Auto? And what's the use of the symbol "arrow within the car"?

    2exra00.jpg
    Starship enterprise?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,090 ✭✭✭dok_golf


    Rub washing up liquid onto the glass and polish until clear.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,690 ✭✭✭✭Skylinehead


    Weather was good this morning and didn't notice any significant fog.

    Will try to get Pingi Car Dehumidifier as mentioned in the above post, thanks!

    Here is the picture of the controllers. Do I leave it on Auto? And what's the use of the symbol "arrow within the car"?

    2exra00.jpg

    Leave it on auto for normal use, hit MAX when clearing your windscreen if it's bad enough.

    "Arrow within the car" is recirculating air, wouldn't bother with that for most scenarios.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 535 ✭✭✭Zatoichi


    Found water hiding inside the rim of my spare tyre when I had a similar issue.


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