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Tonight's fights 15/12 (Katie Taylor/Canelo/BT Card)

  • 15-12-2018 10:06pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,928 ✭✭✭


    This BT card is awful. Sunny Edwards fighting Granados who Jamie Conlan had a war with. Edwards floored in the 2nd but boxing really well since.

    Katie's biggest test of her pro career so far tonight. Should be a really good fight. Expected to be in the ring at midnight.

    Card overall is poor. Canelo should get Fielding out of there early. Shame that Lemieux had to pull out of the card. Was looking forward to Lemieux-Johnson all week.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57,368 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Katie’s opponent is an “old” woman...

    Unless she can take Katie out she will get dominated...

    Fielding is muck. I expect Canelo to win easily...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,023 ✭✭✭✭Joe_ Public


    Expecting a reasonably comfortable win for Taylor tonight. Wahlstrom was well short of her class as an amateur so see no reason to think it will be much different in the pros. Doesn’t seem to have beaten all that much to get and keep her belt though suspect she’ll be doing ok financially to take a fight outside her home territory. Wouldn’t be too complacent about it at the same time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57,368 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    They fought 4/5 times if I recall. Finnish girl a pro 8 years now.

    Katie has 3 stoppage wins over her at amateur.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,153 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    pac_man wrote: »
    Open to correction on this but I think they fought 8 times in the amateurs and the Finnish girl has never won against her.

    I still think it's by far Taylor's toughest pro fight. The best opponent she has had since an amateur.
    Tonight should tell us a bit about whether she has progressed since 2016 or has just been fighting weaker opposition.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 988 ✭✭✭brendanwalsh


    Hopefully rocky secures justice for GGG


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,023 ✭✭✭✭Joe_ Public


    To be fair none of us have seen wahlstroms fights so it’s pretty much guesswork. Her fight record doesn’t look great on paper so I wouldn’t be all that worried about her. Katie did have the upper hand at amateur level but then she had a great record against potkonen but still lost in 2016, so I don’t think she’ll be complacent and will fight a measured, controlled fight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,928 ✭✭✭Morrison J


    pac_man wrote: »
    Give Edwards one or two more fights for experience and I'd fancy him to beat Barnes.

    I think he'd beat him tomorrow if they fought unfortunately. A fight to avoid if I'm Paddy Barnes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,023 ✭✭✭✭Joe_ Public


    Taylor and Wahlstrom met 4 times as amateurs. Taylor won all 4, one bout was close. She stopped her at the 2006 world champs in New Delhi.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,283 ✭✭✭✭RobbingBandit


    Rocky has a height advantage on Canelo , Canelos first fight at Super Middleweight too should be a good fight with both fighters having the 1 loss each prior to this one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,153 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    Hopefully rocky secures justice for GGG

    We can't be having two Bren Walsh' in here


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,153 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    Rocky has a height advantage on Canelo , Canelos first fight at Super Middleweight too should be a good fight with both fighters having the 1 loss each prior to this one.

    Rocky got sparked in 1 by Callum Smith. Canelo will murder him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,283 ✭✭✭✭RobbingBandit


    Odds seem to agree but who knows boxing is fun in that way


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,491 ✭✭✭badabing106


    You can get odds of katie winning 1/50

    If a 45 year old Audley Harrison came out of retirement to face Anthony Joshua. Similar odds?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,928 ✭✭✭Morrison J


    What has happened to to Bradley Skeete. Stopped in 2 rounds again. Unreal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 883 ✭✭✭manster


    Anyone have an idea of Katie Taylor approximate fight time please


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,517 ✭✭✭VW 1


    manster wrote: »
    Anyone have an idea of Katie Taylor approximate fight time please

    Mentioned a few posts up, should be around 12, after this fight thats on.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 597 ✭✭✭clfy39tzve8njq


    What channel is the fight on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,925 ✭✭✭✭Ha Long Bay


    What channel is the fight on

    Sky Sports Main Event. Taylor fight is on after this one just starting.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 597 ✭✭✭clfy39tzve8njq


    john4321 wrote:
    Sky Sports Main Event. Taylor fight is on after this one just starting.


    Sound thanks


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 282 ✭✭Bubblegummers


    .


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,919 ✭✭✭simongurnick


    Ring walks now. Cmon katie


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,907 ✭✭✭✭Kristopherus


    Round 1 to Taylor.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 896 ✭✭✭septictank


    Very small crowd, pity.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,812 ✭✭✭Brock Turnpike


    septictank wrote: »
    Very small crowd, pity.

    Comms on DAZN were saying it's actually a lot more full than it looks. Ringside seats aren't full but the cheaper seats are. Of course they could just be saying that as it's their show.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,907 ✭✭✭✭Kristopherus


    septictank wrote: »
    Very small crowd, pity.

    All gone to the bars before the Main Event:D.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,933 ✭✭✭Blanco100


    is main event next?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57,368 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Katie working the body well..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 896 ✭✭✭septictank


    All gone to the bars before the Main Event:D.

    Must be some size of a bar, lol.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,907 ✭✭✭✭Kristopherus


    Super show from Taylor so far.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,933 ✭✭✭Blanco100


    pac_man wrote: »
    She's far too quick for this girl and can't deal with the speed. Gotta love the Adam Smith hyperbole "Taylor who is a pretty big puncher".

    deffo suffers from lack of power


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57,368 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    If she had any kind of punch this lass would be gone...

    Usual Taylor performance. Most shots not really landing, but her speed and feet always too good. Nice worker inside when she commits. Beautiful combinations..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57,368 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    The women’s boxing reminds me of the tennis....don’t ever make it 3 min rds...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,928 ✭✭✭Morrison J


    Blanco100 wrote: »
    is main event next?

    Still three more fights before the main event


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57,368 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Had Ryan Garcia fought yet?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,023 ✭✭✭✭Joe_ Public


    No she doesn’t have punches packed with power, but then again she’s a female lightweight fighter, what else should we expect really? Never saw her getting overpowered either, maybe the French Olympic gold medalist would be a threat if or when that fight comes to pass.

    3 minute rounds would help her, 2 minutes doesn’t help to truly develop a round.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,023 ✭✭✭✭Joe_ Public


    walshb wrote: »
    The women’s boxing reminds me of the tennis....don’t ever make it 3 min rds...

    Already 3 minutes in the amateurs so don’t see why the pros won’t follow at some stage.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57,368 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    No she doesn’t have punches packed with power, but then again she’s a female lightweight fighter, what else should we expect really? Never saw her getting overpowered either, maybe the French Olympic gold medalist would be a threat if or when that fight comes to pass.

    3 minute rounds would help her, 2 minutes doesn’t help to truly develop a round.

    But what extra would she do from minute 2 to 3? Same repetitive punching is all you’ll get..an extra 10 minutes overall domination...time wasting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 617 ✭✭✭BoroMan32


    All three judges 100-90

    Says it all really, a mismatch but some lovely stuff late on from Taylor.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57,368 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Already 3 minutes in the amateurs so don’t see why the pros won’t follow at some stage.

    I know. Been at many of them in the national stadium. It’s painful.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,928 ✭✭✭Morrison J


    walshb wrote: »
    Had Ryan Garcia fought yet?

    On next, then Sadam Ali, then Tevin Farmer then main event


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57,368 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Morrison J wrote: »
    On next, then Sadam Ali, then Tevin Farmer then main event

    Sound. Just checked...he’s 100-1 on, so let’s hope these fights y in..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57,368 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Farmer 50-1 on and Ali 10-1 on...

    Canelo could be in the ring by 2.30


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57,368 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    pac_man wrote: »
    They'd get more tired, which leads to more knockouts.

    Running order:

    Garcia-Rodriguez, Ali-Herrera, Farmer-Fonseca & Canelo-Fielding.

    Yes, but with Taylor what kind of KOs? Girls being tickled onto the ground in exhaustion...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,023 ✭✭✭✭Joe_ Public


    walshb wrote: »
    But what extra would she do from minute 2 to 3? Same repetitive punching is all you’ll get..an extra 10 minutes overall domination...time wasting.

    Not going to do much different obviously but just more of a chance to wear an opponent down. 2 minutes feels very short in the ring to me anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57,368 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Katie impressed me more tonight than previously...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,153 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    I was quite impressed with KT tonight. First time I am willing to be convinced that perhaps she has improved since the amateurs.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57,368 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Not going to do much different obviously but just more of a chance to wear an opponent down. 2 minutes feels very short in the ring to me anyway.

    I get that...

    But relating to Katie, I think the issue is that we should be seeing her in more competitive fights as opposed to an extra minute of her doing the exact same thing...

    I don’t want to see 30 mins of that...20 mins is enough...

    More tough and competitive fights, and believe you me, the 2 mins may suit Katie more. I get that she looked fit tonight, but that can look that way when your opponent is in no way a threat...

    Katie’s stamina in a fight against someone really good and physical? 3 mins may not be ideal..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,023 ✭✭✭✭Joe_ Public


    Not knocking what Pete and the high performance guys did for her, but think she has a truly world class set up behind her now and it’s really showing in her performances. All those US camps can’t but bring her on further, not sure what else is really out there but I doubt any of them could be half as well prepared as Katie Taylor.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57,368 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    pac_man wrote: »
    You'd hope that with the longer rounds, there's less pressure to be looking for the knockout. Punch resistance is tested more along with mental resilience. There's a big difference between 2 and 3 minute rounds.

    There is a difference...

    Just relating to Katie and her style and her clear lack of power, I don’t see any real want for it...she’s not overly patient to begin with. Frenetic enough...and she is the same for all of the 2 min rds...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 988 ✭✭✭brendanwalsh


    Taylor is fighting tomato cans
    I'm sure she is making a decent wage but unfortunately the standard is just so poor at women's pro boxing. She'll never be able to make it as a PPV star like McGregor or mayweather.


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