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  • Registered Users Posts: 28,986 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    PARlance wrote: »
    Reconcile what exactly? They don't go around recording every transaction and matching it to a parked car.

    €50 back from an €80 fine seems fairly reasonable. Your mothers mistake cost them time and effort.

    that's their problem. they decided to play silly beggers once provided with the proof needed so the time and effort they were supposibly costd is deserved.

    ticking a box on a form does not make you of a religion.



  • Registered Users Posts: 21,094 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    that's their problem. they decided to play silly beggers once provided with the proof needed so the time and effort they were supposibly costd is deserved.

    Doesn't look like it's their problem does it. The problem is that the OPs mother inputted the incorrect reg.

    Might be a lot to take in but when they're checking cars for payment, they look up the actual reg and not variations of that reg. No exact match found, clamp is put on, at a cost. By putting it on, there's also going to be a cost involved for them to return and remove. All time and effort as is the process of refunding the €50.

    €50 seems fair to me. No refund would have been very harsh. Full refund would have been them paying for someone else's mistake.


  • Registered Users Posts: 28,986 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    PARlance wrote: »
    Doesn't look like it's their problem does it. The problem is that the OPs mother inputted the incorrect reg.

    Might be a lot to take in but when they're checking cars for payment, they look up the actual reg and not variations of that reg. No exact match found, clamp is put on, at a cost. By putting it on, there's also going to be a cost involved for them to return and remove. All time and effort as is the process of refunding the €50.

    €50 seems fair to me. No refund would have been very harsh. Full refund would have been them paying for someone else's mistake.


    the cost for them to return is irrelevant as they would have had to return anyway. they were provided with proof that a mistake was made and they were unreasonable. therefore they don't get to recover any costs they may incur as they chose to not except the provided proof.
    full refund would have been them paying back what was owed and would not have been them paying for someone elses mistake as they weren't ultimately owed any money as the clamp was put on in error.

    ticking a box on a form does not make you of a religion.



  • Registered Users Posts: 869 ✭✭✭moycullen14


    A work colleague got caught a while back, entered '14-D-xxx' rather than 141-D
    in the text message. Of course, APCOA knew immediately the registration was wrong. About 2 nano seconds later, the clamp van arrived. Cue much arguing, release fee paid and eventually, about 3 months later, money returned.

    Now we send texts with fake registrations, just after the clamp van has left. Oh, how we laugh to see the clamper vainly searching for non-existent cars.

    Small pleasures, indeed.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,875 ✭✭✭Edgware


    road_high wrote: »
    They’re pretty zealous st the Red cow luas car park. It’s notorious for clamping, must be a nice money spinner. Does little to encourage public transport really
    It might be a money spinner for the company. I heard that the actual clamper gets something like 2 euro per clamp. As regards the staff being obnoxious this usually occurs as a result of abuse from a member of the public who is in a very angry state. But clamping a car for a very obvious mistake is too severe


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,538 ✭✭✭Duff


    My mate was clamped in a college campus carpark about two years ago despite still being within the allocated time on his ticket when we got to his car. Rang the clamping company to be told it'd be over an hour before the van could get back to the carpark and we'd have to pay the fee and then appeal. Luckily there was a tool hire place across the road. €20 for an angle grinder for an hour and a nice clamp left in the car park space.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,875 ✭✭✭Edgware


    Duff wrote: »
    My mate was clamped in a college campus carpark about two years ago despite still being within the allocated time on his ticket when we got to his car. Rang the clamping company to be told it'd be over an hour before the van could get back to the carpark and we'd have to pay the fee and then appeal. Luckily there was a tool hire place across the road. €20 for an angle grinder for an hour and a nice clamp left in the car park space.
    A fairy story


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,159 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    the cost for them to return is irrelevant as they would have had to return anyway. they were provided with proof that a mistake was made and they were unreasonable. therefore they don't get to recover any costs they may incur as they chose to not except the provided proof.
    full refund would have been them paying back what was owed and would not have been them paying for someone elses mistake as they weren't ultimately owed any money as the clamp was put on in error.


    The only error was the one made by the mother inputting the reg. There was no parking paid for the vehicle that was clamped.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,913 ✭✭✭Pintman Paddy Losty


    Duff wrote: »
    My mate was clamped in a college campus carpark about two years ago despite still being within the allocated time on his ticket when we got to his car. Rang the clamping company to be told it'd be over an hour before the van could get back to the carpark and we'd have to pay the fee and then appeal. Luckily there was a tool hire place across the road. €20 for an angle grinder for an hour and a nice clamp left in the car park space.

    Lies.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,736 ✭✭✭Gannicus


    She had paid her parking but entered 2 digits of her car registration wrongly on the parking machine e.g. her reg is 07D 2335 and she entered 07D 2553.

    Em.... not sure if this has been mentioned but are you sure it's a good idea to be posting your ma's car reg on an public web page for everyone to see.


    Short answer is

    NO


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  • Registered Users Posts: 22,015 ✭✭✭✭Esel


    Gannicus wrote: »
    Em.... not sure if this has been mentioned but are you sure it's a good idea to be posting your ma's car reg on an public web page for everyone to see.


    Short answer is

    NO

    Poster made the numbers up. See the e.g.?

    Not your ornery onager



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,913 ✭✭✭Pintman Paddy Losty


    Gannicus wrote: »
    Em.... not sure if this has been mentioned but are you sure it's a good idea to be posting your ma's car reg on an public web page for everyone to see.


    Short answer is

    NO


    In fairness its probably a made up reg.

    Even if it's the real one. What difference does it make? Sure I can read anyone's reg on the road.

    Paranoia is very high mate.


  • Registered Users Posts: 28,986 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    The only error was the one made by the mother inputting the reg. There was no parking paid for the vehicle that was clamped.


    there was full parking paid for the vehicle that was actually clamped however.

    ticking a box on a form does not make you of a religion.



  • Registered Users Posts: 40,159 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    there was full parking paid for the vehicle that was actually clamped however.


    how could there be if the wrong reg was entered?


  • Registered Users Posts: 21,094 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    The only error was the one made by the mother inputting the reg. There was no parking paid for the vehicle that was clamped.

    Or to be more exact. There was no parking paid for the registration associated to the clamped car.

    Clampers may be big and bad but they're not mind-readers and can't be expected to anticipate human error as was the case here.


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,159 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    PARlance wrote: »
    Or to be more exact. There was no parking paid for the registration associated of the clamped car.

    Clampers may be big and bad but they're not mind-readers and can't be expected to anticipate human error as was the case here.


    Correction accepted.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    PARlance wrote: »
    Or to be more exact. There was no parking paid for the registration associated to the clamped car.

    Clampers may be big and bad but they're not mind-readers and can't be expected to anticipate human error as was the case here.

    100%, if you are a clamper and have a car park with 2-300 cars in it, what is the easiest way to see if the car has paid?? I'd go by the last 2 or three numbers of the reg, wouldn't care about the rest until I was confirming it was the correct car. If there is a car there not on the list, it's fair game to clamp.


  • Registered Users Posts: 147 ✭✭timfinnegan


    100%, if you are a clamper and have a car park with 2-300 cars in it, what is the easiest way to see if the car has paid?? I'd go by the last 2 or three numbers of the reg, wouldn't care about the rest until I was confirming it was the correct car. If there is a car there not on the list, it's fair game to clamp.

    Why don't the clampers link the car reg you enter to the national vehicle data base, like they do at Dublin Airport Authority parking? This would prevent anyone from entering the incorrect reg number, as this system confirms the make, model and colour of your car to the number you've input


  • Registered Users Posts: 27,047 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    99% of people who are clamped deserve it and I wish there were more of it.

    For every genuine story like the OP, there's a 100 ignorant fcukwits with a sense of entitlement.

    You have 1 too many fckuwits there mate.
    Unless of course you just made up those statistics....


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