Ireland v USA | Joe Schmidt 36 hour speculation thread

ongarite

So weird, Best doing the speech

shootermacg

GET IN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tell me how

Jaysus, Rory Best having to read his message with Johnny standing there....

Aidric

Congrats to Sexton, well deserved. Unlucky with the throat infection but Best did a stand up job as his voice :pac:

On a side note Alex Payne is a wonderful professional.

Aidric

Aidric wrote: »

On a side note Alex Payne is a wonderful professional.

He's definitely going to turn out to be a serial killer though.

Donnielighto

troyzer wrote: »

There's an award for best men's 15s team. You have to imagine Ireland are a shoe in for that as well.

States had a very good year I think.

Rigor Mortis

I was amazed the US didnt get a nomination for team of the year

troyzer

Rigor Mortis wrote: »

I was amazed the US didnt get a nomination for team of the year

Well, they're not. Not even close.

It's a best team of the year award. Does anybody here really think they were the best team in the world?

Mookie Blaylock

troyzer wrote: »

Well, they're not. Not even close.

It's a best team of the year award. Does anybody here really think they were the best team in the world?

"Whooosh"

prawnsambo

Our watch has ended

vienne86

prawnsambo wrote: »

Our watch has ended

Hadn't seen Farrell as the successor - happy with that.

I couldn't even begin to articulate the thanks and the plaudits for Joe.....what a man. I just hope he has a happy and healthy life..

thomond2006

He's retiring from coaching. Good for him!

2smiggy

vienne86 wrote: »

Hadn't seen Farrell as the successor - happy with that.

I couldn't even begin to articulate the thanks and the plaudits for Joe.....what a man. I just hope he has a happy and healthy life..

also happy with Andy Farrell , glad we have him and he's not gone back to England to coach

lawred2

He's going to be leaving a legacy that won't be undone. As I said earlier - it's been a privilege.

prawnsambo

thomond2006 wrote: »

He's retiring from coaching. Good for him!

A pretty unique decision. But fitting that Joe's last action as coach is a curveball.

lawred2

thomond2006 wrote: »

He's retiring from coaching. Good for him!

Really? I'm amazed.

He's a unique individual isn't he!?

Squidgy Black

This might sound weird, but I think this is the best outcome. We get to move on to the next phase, and see what life is like without Joe. But we won't have the gut sinking feeling of seeing him coach the all blacks and turning them into an unmovable force.

ELM327

https://www.rte.ie/sport/rugby/2018/1126/1013355-farrell-to-replace-schmidt-as-ireland-coach-after-rwc/

lawred2

ELM327 wrote: »

https://www.rte.ie/sport/rugby/2018/1126/1013355-farrell-to-replace-schmidt-as-ireland-coach-after-rwc/

no mention of retiring there

ClanofLams

Squidgy Black wrote: »

This might sound weird, but I think this is the best outcome. We get to move on to the next phase, and see what life is like without Joe. But we won't have the gut sinking feeling of seeing him coach the all blacks and turning them into an unmovable force.

Would have liked to see take over the ABs personally, albeit agree that would be very bad for everyone else. Regrettable that his family commitments are so serious he is unable to.

Squidgy Black

lawred2 wrote: »

no mention of retiring there

It's in the IRFU's statement:

"Joe Schmidt has today announced that he will finish coaching following the Rugby World Cup in Japan next year. Andy Farrell will become head coach after the tournament. Speaking about his decision to finish coaching Joe Schmidt said: 'I have decided to finish coaching and will prioritise family commitments after the RWC in 2019.'"

Rigor Mortis

troyzer wrote: »

Well, they're not. Not even close.

It's a best team of the year award. Does anybody here really think they were the best team in the world?

No, its a team of the year award. Team of the year can be about progress too. A nomination can certainly be about progress. Arguably the SA nomination was about progress, because on merit both Wales and England would be ahead.

The US are nowhere near the best team, but they have been one of the most impressive performers given where their baseline was.

Utah_Saint

What is the highest honour the Irish state can bestow on someone?! We owe Joe (and his family) a huge debt of gratitude. From his services to the education system, Leinster, Ireland and the knock on effects felt across all provinces. I don't think anyone has given more to this Island in terms of sporting development and achievement.

Thank you Joe.

Rigor Mortis

Yay, we dont have to watch our ex girlfriend hook up with a better looking guy.

Former Former

Utah_Saint wrote: »

What is the highest honour the Irish state can bestow on someone?! We owe Joe (and his family) a huge debt of gratitude. From his services to the education system, Leinster, Ireland and the knock on effects felt across all provinces. I don't think anyone has given more to this Island in terms of sporting development and achievement.

Thank you Joe.

None, our constitution prohibits it. You boys will have to step up with a knighthood.

JPCN1

We still have him for the best part of a year and Farrell and his coaching staff will spend that time learning as much as possible. Would hate for his legacy if we banana skin in the quarters again but with him I doubt it.

Given he is all consumed by coaching in Ireland I'd say a sensible man not to take the All Blacks and live under that microscope. Very best to him and his family whatever is next.

DGRulz

thomond2006 wrote: »

He's retiring from coaching. Good for him!

Typical Joe curve ball.

Squidgy Black

Squidgy Black wrote: »

It's in the IRFU's statement:

"Joe Schmidt has today announced that he will finish coaching following the Rugby World Cup in Japan next year. Andy Farrell will become head coach after the tournament. Speaking about his decision to finish coaching Joe Schmidt said: 'I have decided to finish coaching and will prioritise family commitments after the RWC in 2019.'"

This. It is very clear he is finished coaching, not just Ireland. Whether he can be tempted back in years to come remains to be seen but right now he is finished coaching to priotise his family.

ELM327

Hopefully we win the WC now. The only real fitting legacy to the best coach we've ever had.

prawnsambo

DGRulz wrote: »

Typical Joe curve ball.

Plagiarist :pac:

prawnsambo wrote: »

A pretty unique decision. But fitting that Joe's last action as coach is a curveball.

Utah_Saint

Former Former wrote: »

None, our constitution prohibits it. You boys will have to step up with a knighthood.

You learn something new everyday.

What about turning on the Christmas lights in Dublin then?

I think Joe might take a year or so out - but by the looks of that statement he's kept the door open to returning to coaching down the line.

Still though - if he truly is retiring permanently from coaching, what a way to really add motivation to your team as you guide them to the biggest tournament of their lives.

DGRulz

prawnsambo wrote: »

Plagiarist :pac:

Great minds? :pac:

Buer

Is he staying on in Ireland or going back to NZ? The statement is a little ambiguous in that regard. I know the medical support for his son was a factor in him staying this long so, if he's not looking at a job back in NZ, I wonder would he be hanging about? Could make a comfortable living off media work and coaching clinics.

Squidgy Black

Buer wrote: »

Is he staying on in Ireland or going back to NZ? The statement is a little ambiguous in that regard. I know the medical support for his son was a factor in him staying this long so, if he's not looking at a job back in NZ, I wonder would he be hanging about? Could make a comfortable living off media work and coaching clinics.

I'd be surprised if he stayed in Ireland, I know back in 2015 he had to go overseas for treatment with his son as the specialists weren't in Ireland at the time. There's a good chance of him moving home just for the support network of his wider family.

Former Former

Deleted User wrote: »

I think Joe might take a year or so out - but by the looks of that statement he's kept the door open to returning to coaching down the line.

Still though - if he truly is retiring permanently from coaching, what a way to really add motivation to your team as you guide them to the biggest tournament of their lives.

Takes a year out, coaches the Lions for a series win in South Africa in 2021, elected president in a landslide victory in 2025.

P_1

Squidgy Black wrote: »

I'd be surprised if he stayed in Ireland, I know back in 2015 he had to go overseas for treatment with his son as the specialists weren't in Ireland at the time. There's a good chance of him moving home just for the support network of his wider family.

Tough to tell, aren't his other children in college/doing their leaving atm?

Squidgy Black

P_1 wrote: »

Tough to tell, aren't his other children in college/doing their leaving atm?

His eldest is already in NZ, two are 22 and 18 and then his younger son who has epilepsy is 14.

BBDBB

too soon?

Gamb!t

Thanks Joe,a legend in Irish Rugby.

jacothelad

Utah_Saint wrote: »

You learn something new everyday.

What about turning on the Christmas lights in Dublin then?

The Freedom of the City of Dublin is awarded by Dublin City Council after approving a person nominated by the Lord Mayor. Eighty-two people have been honoured under the current process introduced in 1876. Most honourees have made a contribution to the life of the city or of Ireland in general, including politicians, public servants, humanitarians, artists and entertainers; others were distinguished members of the Irish diaspora and foreign leaders, honoured visiting Dublin. Honourees sign the roll of freedmen in a ceremony at City Hall or the Mansion House and are presented with an illuminated scroll by the Lord Mayo..




If it's good enough for BOD............

mfceiling

No you're crying...I'm not crying.

Paul Smeenus

Former Former wrote: »

None, our constitution prohibits it. You boys will have to step up with a knighthood.

Constitution prohibits "Titles of nobility", not honours across the board. They ain't the same - nobody with an OBE or the French National Order of Merit is nobility (because of their medal, at least). Although the only Irish honour currently up for grabs, as I understand it, is the "Presidential Distinguished Service Award for the Irish Abroad".

I would love to see the reaction on the Irish interwebz if the British Establishment gave Joe an award for all that he's done for rugby in NI. Love it.

Paul Smeenus

jacothelad wrote: »

The Freedom of the City of Dublin is awarded by Dublin City Council after approving a person nominated by the Lord Mayor. Eighty-two people have been honoured under the current process introduced in 1876. Most honourees have made a contribution to the life of the city or of Ireland in general, including politicians, public servants, humanitarians, artists and entertainers; others were distinguished members of the Irish diaspora and foreign leaders, honoured visiting Dublin. Honourees sign the roll of freedmen in a ceremony at City Hall or the Mansion House and are presented with an illuminated scroll by the Lord Mayo..




If it's good enough for BOD............

I would love an "illuminated scroll". Especially one given by "Lord Mayo".

troyzer

Paul Smeenus wrote: »

Constitution prohibits "Titles of nobility", not honours across the board. They ain't the same - nobody with an OBE or the French National Order of Merit is nobility (because of their medal, at least). Although the only Irish honour currently up for grabs, as I understand it, is the "Presidential Distinguished Service Award for the Irish Abroad".

I would love to see the reaction on the Irish interwebz if the British Establishment gave Joe an award for all that he's done for rugby in NI. Love it.

Surely Miggeldy can give him a gaisce at least?

Paul Smeenus

troyzer wrote: »

Surely Miggeldy can give him a gaisce at least?

Joe has played a significant role in the improved fortunes of Scouting Ireland.

troyzer

Paul Smeenus wrote: »

Joe has played a significant role in the improved fortunes of Scouting Ireland.

There you go, he should get a gaisce.

And a DofE.

Paul Smeenus

troyzer wrote: »

There you go, he should get a gaisce.

And a DofE.

That one did make me laugh out loud.

MrMusician18

Utah_Saint wrote: »

What is the highest honour the Irish state can bestow on someone?! We owe Joe (and his family) a huge debt of gratitude. From his services to the education system, Leinster, Ireland and the knock on effects felt across all provinces. I don't think anyone has given more to this Island in terms of sporting development and achievement.

Thank you Joe.

What services to education? He was a teacher in NZ a long time ago...

The Lost Sheep

Utah_Saint wrote: »

What is the highest honour the Irish state can bestow on someone?! We owe Joe (and his family) a huge debt of gratitude. From his services to the education system, Leinster, Ireland and the knock on effects felt across all provinces. I don't think anyone has given more to this Island in terms of sporting development and achievement.

Thank you Joe.

He hasnt taught since 2003 in New Zealand. His service to the education system should be irrelevant. He could get freedom of Dublin but what more?