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“Local Access Only” sign on a road

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,693 ✭✭✭the_pen_turner


    What defines local. Surely all you have to do is get the name of someone living there somewhere. If you get stopped just say your lucking for xyz .


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,340 ✭✭✭mullingar


    victor8600 wrote: »
    This one is not a "local access" sign. This is an official No Straight Ahead sign
    RUS-011-No-Straight-Ahead.png
    with exceptions.

    But, if a supplementary sign stating "local access only" is below that "no straight ahead" sign, AFAIK its legally enforceable


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,922 ✭✭✭GM228


    Isambard wrote: »
    what is the legality of lights I might hire from my local hire shop and set up on the road?

    Temporary lights at roadworks or where provided for traffic management purposes have legal standing and must be obeyed (they must be authorised by the local authority, anything else does not, hiring them from your local hire shop (do they even provide such?) and placing them on the road would not count, in fact doing so is an offence.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,922 ✭✭✭GM228


    Id say you need paper work to set them up in the first place

    Anyone who carries out roadworks on a public road requires the authority or consent of the local authority, they don't however require consent or paperwork for lights per se.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,922 ✭✭✭GM228


    mullingar wrote: »
    But, if a supplementary sign stating "local access only" is below that "no straight ahead" sign, AFAIK its legally enforceable

    Correct, note the poster stated "with exceptions".


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,796 ✭✭✭Isambard


    GM228 wrote: »
    Temporary lights at roadworks or where provided for traffic management purposes have legal standing and must be obeyed (they must be authorised by the local authority, anything else does not, hiring them from your local hire shop (do they even provide such?) and placing them on the road would not count, in fact doing so is an offence.
    I think that's just your opinion isn't it?
    I'm not talking of the legality of setting them up, I'm talking of whether it's an offence to pass them if they have no paperwork. Passing an unofficial Red Light would not be an offence then? Earlier it was stated that it was an offence to do so.

    http://www.azhire.ie/traffic-lights-temporary,offer/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,966 ✭✭✭corks finest


    Are such signs actually legally binding?
    Doubt it, FFS farmers,ditch figfers,sunbird all use it,guys hope out of a white van drop them,and doubt vv much it they're legally binding as AFAIK any road blockade has to have Garda/ council official approval


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,608 ✭✭✭✭loyatemu


    Road after Glen of the downs and before kilmacanogue

    I assume this is Quill Road, a very narrow lane that runs parallel to the N11

    https://goo.gl/maps/DJutEoDauYQ2

    Google says that part of it is private, I assume that's the bit nearest the Glenview, if you access it directly from the slip road on the northbount N11 I don't think that bit is private.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,922 ✭✭✭GM228


    Isambard wrote: »
    I think that's just your opinion isn't it?
    I'm not talking of the legality of setting them up, I'm talking of whether it's an offence to pass them if they have no paperwork. Passing an unofficial Red Light would not be an offence then? Earlier it was stated that it was an offence to do so.

    http://www.azhire.ie/traffic-lights-temporary,offer/

    No it's not my opinion, that's the law.

    They do not need paperwork, just consent. How consent is achieved is not prescribed and so any lack of paperwork confirming consent does not make them unlawful.

    Once there are roadworks (roadworks themselves also need permission and a licence known as a "road opening licence"), any temporary traffic lights at such then are legally binding.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 20,369 Mod ✭✭✭✭RacoonQueen


    What defines local. Surely all you have to do is get the name of someone living there somewhere. If you get stopped just say your lucking for xyz .

    "I need to pull in to make an urgent phonecall"


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,221 ✭✭✭bobbysands81


    I pulled in and took a photo of the sign this morning.

    I noticed that a little bit further down the road there were two more signs. One said “Local Access Only” and the other said “Private Road”. No other markings or “branding” were on the signs.

    2cnfq1g.jpg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,456 ✭✭✭The high horse brigade


    I pulled in and took a photo of the sign this morning.

    I noticed that a little bit further down the road there were two more signs. One said “Local Access Only” and the other said “Private Road”. No other markings or “branding” were on the signs.

    2cnfq1g.jpg

    Imo that just means no through road or cul de sac, no legal standing what so ever


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,252 ✭✭✭mgbgt1978


    Exactly.
    Just because you wish to enter the Locality does not mean you never want to (or can) leave it again.

    This sign is simply an 'Advisory'.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,340 ✭✭✭mullingar


    No red border, therefore not compulsory.


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