John Delaney at the FAI Thread - (Mod Notes in OP)

In the history of Irish law, it's hard to think of a case that has backfired as spectacularly as John Delaney's move to injunct a back page story. It's led to uncovering the whole rotten mess of the FAI, an organisation that is now synonymous with greed and incompetence. It must be the finest example of the Barbra Streisand effect we've seen here.

It's been appalling and compelling, like watching the slowest car crash ever. Just week after week of new jaw dropping allegations that's now moving into the third month. If they sat down and thought of a way to ensure the whole ****show would be exposed to the public, they could not have done a better job. It's the most FAI like thing the FAI has done.

secman

What is Rea Walsh trying to hide, has she learned nothing ftom Sepp Delaney mistakes, personally i think her position is becoming untenable, she was after all on the "Governance committee " which appears to have behaved like the famous 3 monkeys " hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil".
Delaney is certainly untouchable now, no employer would touch him with a barge pole, you would think.

yabadabado

secman wrote: »

What is Rea Walsh trying to hide, has she learned nothing ftom Sepp Delaney mistakes, personally i think her position is becoming untenable, she was after all on the "Governance committee " which appears to have behaved like the famous 3 monkeys " hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil".
Delaney is certainly untouchable now, no employer would touch him with a barge pole, you would think.

Anyone who was around in the lead up to the 100k loan/failed injunction has no place in the "new" FAI .Rea Walshe and everyone else who let JD run the association as his fiefdom should never hold a position in the FAI again.


Makes no difference to JD if hes unemployable, he has enough money to live the good life for the rest of his days.

If life is getting you down just think. On this day 8 weeks ago John Delaney was sitting down with his legal team, hopeful...maybe even confident...of getting another story buried.

Thank you Mark Tighe, thank you Mr. Justice Barr.

Irishmale0399

secman wrote: »

What is Rea Walsh trying to hide, has she learned nothing ftom Sepp Delaney mistakes, personally i think her position is becoming untenable, she was after all on the "Governance committee " which appears to have behaved like the famous 3 monkeys " hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil".
Delaney is certainly untouchable now, no employer would touch him with a barge pole, you would think.

Rea Walsh I said here a few days ago was doing a good job and aiding the transformation.........the question is why....
She is a lawyer...was placed in her position by JD himself. Looks like she was his internal legal advisor. If she really wants to save her own skin it may be a case that SI said...help us and we wont go to the law society etc. Would assume she has no option but to play the game and if I am honest she seems to be a yes woman.


As for Delany....he has shares in many companies. He will land on his feet as other individuals will say....fair ****s you got away with it for so long.

Zebra3

sugarman wrote: »

So true, it was his ego that got in the way. Had he not sought the injunction it really would have been another forgotten backpage story by now. The initial €100k loan was a bit of a nothing story, it's only when they began to dig deeper they began to find some hard evidence of corruption, incompetence, greed etc.. and we're still only at the tip of the iceberg.

The €100k was a serious issue.

Money he claims he loaned the FAI that doesn't seem to have been put through the books.

He needed to bury that story.

yabadabado

Irishmale0399 wrote: »

Rea Walsh I said here a few days ago was doing a good job and aiding the transformation.........the question is why....
She is a lawyer...was placed in her position by JD himself. Looks like she was his internal legal advisor. If she really wants to save her own skin it may be a case that SI said...help us and we wont go to the law society etc. Would assume she has no option but to play the game and if I am honest she seems to be a yes woman.


As for Delany....he has shares in many companies. He will land on his feet as other individuals will say....fair ****s you got away with it for so long.

Rea Walsh should be nowhere near the transformation or on any governance review.
My only hope is she has to aid SI now and will be made walk away when all the board are ****ed out.

CatFromHue

The head of the cricket association had to put money into it recently. When asked about it he told the truth and he came out looking like someone who really cared for his association.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/ceo-gave-cricket-ireland-100000-loan-at-stressful-time-38037471.html

Can you imagine that???

yabadabado

CatFromHue wrote: »

The head of the cricket association had to put money into it recently. When asked about it he told the truth and he came out looking like someone who really cared for his association.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/ceo-gave-cricket-ireland-100000-loan-at-stressful-time-38037471.html

Can you imagine that???

Yeah CI went about their business in the correct manner,imagine all the board members actually knew about loan and they even tried to get money from the banks first :eek:

expectationlost

Deleted User wrote: »

In the history of Irish law, it's hard to think of a case that has backfired as spectacularly as John Delaney's move to injunct a back page story. It's led to uncovering the whole rotten mess of the FAI, an organisation that is now synonymous with greed and incompetence. It must be the finest example of the Barbra Streisand effect we've seen here.

no it didn't, clearly Mark Tighe had the docs already from a leaker, it didn't lead to anything, Delaney just couldn't prevent the story being released, it was never a back page story Mark Tighe isn't a back page reporter.

expectationlost

yabadabado wrote: »

Yeah CI went about their business in the correct manner,imagine all the board members actually knew about loan and they even tried to get money from the banks first :eek:

but they didn't know

The board of Cricket Ireland was not informed of the loan until recently, after details of John Delaney's controversial loan of €100,000 to the FAI became known.

expectationlost

sugarman wrote: »

So true, it was his ego that got in the way. Had he not sought the injunction it really would have been another forgotten backpage story by now. The initial €100k loan was a bit of a nothing story, it's only when they began to dig deeper they began to find some hard evidence of corruption, incompetence, greed etc.. and we're still only at the tip of the iceberg.

the 100k loan was not a nothing story, it showed a breach of Sports Ireland rules which FAI admitted, again Mark Tighe isn't a back page reporter.

yabadabado

expectationlost wrote: »

but they didn't know

You're right.Dunno what I was thinking.

Was it discussed with SI ?


Either way there seems there was a legitimate reason for it and they did things correctly?

kippy

Major differences between both the CI and FAI scenarios though.

expectationlost

yabadabado wrote: »

You're right.Dunno what I was thinking.

Was it discussed with SI ?


Either way there seems there was a legitimate reason for it and they did things correctly?

yes it was discussed with the SI (who didn't think he should do it) but atleast they were told but his whole board wasn't informed until the Delaney story broke.

https://www.independent.ie/sport/revealed-second-ceo-gave-100k-loan-to-irish-sports-association-38035346.html

Chancer3001

Ford announce they are pulling their sponsorship of the FAI after 13 years.

Anyone see Chancer? It seems like Ford didn't get his letter.

Chancer3001 wrote: »

Has anyome contacted sponsors to show how happy they are with delaney?

Is there a template? (Ima too astoopid to write a email bya myselfs)

Hopefully it includes "john delaney is class and any product he endorses, whatever it costs, myself and my extended family will buy 10,000 each."

Maybe if we buy ****loads of sponsors stuff theyll stick by delaneys side

Nesta99

Would be interesting to be a fly on the wall today!
https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/soccer/international/fai-council-s-meeting-overshadows-fifa-visit-to-dublin-1.3892432

shanec1928

https://www.the42.ie/siptu-fai-4635786-May2019/

amcalester

shanec1928 wrote: »

https://www.the42.ie/siptu-fai-4635786-May2019/

Quick set up a friendly with Oman.

Irishmale0399

https://www.fai.ie/domestic/news/paul-cooke-appointed-to-fai-board-sub-committee

Is he any better than the others?? Former CEO of JDs beloved Waterford Utd. and a chartered accountant. Sounds to me without any further info to be an attempt to get JDs mates into positions to soften the fall and take him out of the press.

Update:

Just had a quick readup on Paul Cooke there....seems he is anti JD and JDs FAI for a number of years now, last dealings I had with him were at a table with JD together during their Waterford days and they were definately mates looking for the same thing that day. Lets hope he is in it for the right reasons and doesnt try to sweep things under the carpet.

yabadabado

Irishmale0399 wrote: »

https://www.fai.ie/domestic/news/paul-cooke-appointed-to-fai-board-sub-committee

Is he any better than the others?? Former CEO of JDs beloved Waterford Utd. and a chartered accountant. Sounds to me without any further info to be an attempt to get JDs mates into positions to soften the fall and take him out of the press.

They couldn't be further from mates.Probably should have a look into it before posting that .

johnnyryan89

https://twitter.com/marktigheST/status/1128790009245503488

From debt free by 2020 to being bailed out by UEFA

kippy

johnnyryan89 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/marktigheST/status/1128790009245503488

From debt free by 2020 to being bailed out by UEFA

The books need serious analysis.....

Cienciano

johnnyryan89 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/marktigheST/status/1128790009245503488

From debt free by 2020 to being bailed out by UEFA

Anyone involved in football in Ireland who supported Delaney throughout this are a disgrace. All he did in his years as CEO was milk as much money out of irish soccer as he could.
€700k a year when you include his "loyalty bonus", 3k a month rent, car and driver, company credit card which was used as his personal credit card, crazy expenses for first class flights and 5star hotels on trips abroad, money to his girlfriend, handy numbers and expenses for the board to keep them sweet. All defended because he'd get his driver to bring him up to Donegal to present a €3k novelty cheque (which was his fúcking job) so they'll defend him. People are idiots.

Necro

Cienciano wrote: »

Anyone involved in football in Ireland who supported Delaney throughout this are a disgrace. All he did in his years as CEO was milk as much money out of irish soccer as he could.
€700k a year when you include his "loyalty bonus", 3k a month rent, car and driver, company credit card which was used as his personal credit card, crazy expenses for first class flights and 5star hotels on trips abroad, money to his girlfriend, handy numbers and expenses for the board to keep them sweet. All defended because he'd get his driver to go up to Donegal to present a €3k novelty cheque (which was his fúcking job) so they'll defend him. People are idiots.

Tbf, the supporters (on this thread anyways) have long since ran away with their tails between their legs. I'd love to know what they had to say after all of this though...

Cienciano

Necro wrote: »

Tbf, the supporters (on this thread anyways) have long since ran away with their tails between their legs. I'd love to know what they had to say after all of this though...

I think they were trolling, and even trolling they can't support this shít. A 5 day trip abroad for Delaney would probably cover new changing rooms for a team. So annoying when you see the money taken out of football to fund his lifestyle. The womens national team don't even own their own fúcking tracksuits but Delaney can give his girlfriend €60k or withdraw €1k in cash a month on the company credit card while he's already expensing literally everything.
I think a lot of fans, especially League of Ireland fans knew he was bad, but not this bad. The idiots who thought he was a great lad cos he handed out cans of Carlsberg on a train should be banned from ever attending an Ireland game.

yabadabado

The idiots who took a free can or two ,got selfies wtc weren't the problem, it's the people on the board/leagues who backed him to a hilt and still are in his corner .
Those are the people who should hang their heads in shame although most ould only hang their heads into the trough.


Hopefully this whole episode makes sure there is a line drawn in the sand and the likes of this can never happen again.Proper guidelines and strict governance going forward with all the old guard turned out of Irish football.

Nesta99

While its probably unlikely I really hope they dig up enough to warrant a criminal investigation agaisnt JD. That the golden handcuffs and his contract was illegal due to not being properly signed off by the board and will become null and void. That his seat on UEFA will be revoked particularly because they want to distance themselves from this type of character and PR mess. Lets hope his arrogance means he fights to the bitter end and loses everything rather than tucking his tail between his legs and walking away with a hefty penson never mind €2mil. The sort of money he has squandered one way or another, between his personal slush funds, that of his cronies, and buying support by bandying about 5k checks could easily run to north of 10mil over 14-16 years. Its not impossible that he is responsible for unnecessary costs of 1mil per year as CEO even if there was nothing 'illegal' involved....Aviva debt sorted...

Umaro

Cienciano wrote: »

All defended because he'd get his driver to bring him up to Donegal to present a €3k novelty cheque (which was his fúcking job) so they'll defend him. People are idiots.

That wasn't even his job! He should never have been driving around the country handing out cheques - this whole thing is so insane and I'm delighted its all falling down. About 10 years too late though.

Cienciano

Umaro wrote: »

That wasn't even his job! He should never have been driving around the country handing out cheques - this whole thing is so insane and I'm delighted its all falling down. About 10 years too late though.

I meant allocating money was his job. He hand delivered it just so idiots would think it was John personally looking after them.