Can't get a job and have biotech MSc

Damien360

Don't forget the small independent companies principally in environment sector. The pay is poor compared to pharma but it gives you a start. Give them a year and then jump out. Quick google search for "environmental lab testing ireland" brings up quite a few of the ones I know. Vast majority require no experience but the pay will be very low as a trade off.

engiweirdo

I've a BEng that the shysters in college never tired of shifting on about saying how "in demand" a qualification it is and can't get work in this hole of a city I'm in (Waterford). I see Europe on the horizon in the very near future as I'll be dampened if I'm paying some bloodsucker €2k a month to live in Dublin or Cork. What a country.

ah well

lawred2

RobinPearson wrote: »

A lot of companies in Dublin offering lab apprenticeship for people without experience and degree. You should have no problem just to walk into those jobs.
Looks like you attitude is biggest issue here and interviewers can see that.
On the other hand - there are few places that would be happy to offer you job in a lab paying 25K a year.

Is that supposed to be big money or something?

Horusire

engiweirdo wrote: »

I've a BEng that the shysters in college never tired of shifting on about saying how "in demand" a qualification it is and can't get work in this hole of a city I'm in (Waterford). I see Europe on the horizon in the very near future as I'll be dampened if I'm paying some bloodsucker €2k a month to live in Dublin or Cork. What a country.

BEng in.... currently half way through one and hearing the same constantly.

engiweirdo

Horusire wrote: »

BEng in.... currently half way through one and hearing the same constantly.

Mechanical/Manufacturing. Absolute disaster unless willing to re-locate to some pretty undesirable places crosswise. It's basically Dublin/Cork or fcuk off out of Ireland. Option 3 is probably cheaper and more attractive.

Horusire

engiweirdo wrote: »

Mechanical/Manufacturing. Absolute disaster unless willing to re-locate to some pretty undesirable places crosswise. It's basically Dublin/Cork or fcuk off out of Ireland. Option 3 is probably cheaper and more attractive.

I would have assumed you would have walked into the likes of West pharma,Baush or GSK.. Jesus Christ apparently the job market isn't as buoyant as the lecturers would have you believe. Where is the massive shortage in STEM coming from then ?

ted1

OP if you not even getting to interview stage then your CV is really bad.
Are You tailoring it for each job? Tailoring a cover letter ? Correcting the layout? Spell checks ?


Get professional help

ted1

Horusire wrote: »

I would have assumed you would have walked into the likes of West pharma,Baush or GSK.. Jesus Christ apparently the job market isn't as buoyant as the lecturers would have you believe. Where is the massive shortage in STEM coming from then ?

It’s there alright. I’ve a BENG and a MSc. We take on grads each year starting on about 32k. And Lots leave every year as they get different offers. And we are a large company with excellent prospects.

engiweirdo

Horusire wrote: »

engiweirdo wrote: »

Mechanical/Manufacturing. Absolute disaster unless willing to re-locate to some pretty undesirable places crosswise. It's basically Dublin/Cork or fcuk off out of Ireland. Option 3 is probably cheaper and more attractive.

I would have assumed you would have walked into the likes of West pharma,Baush or GSK.. Jesus Christ apparently the job market isn't as buoyant as the lecturers would have you believe. Where is the massive shortage in STEM coming from then ?

West to the best of my knowledge have never hired a grad in Waterford, want Masters + experience, Bausch & Lomb havent been hiring now in years and even then mostly at operator level, lot of smoke and bluster with these crowds that rarely translates into actual work. The great STEM scam. There is no shortage, companies just want more competition and lower wages. Its a joke.

UCD GroupThink

Damien360 wrote: »

Don't forget the small independent companies principally in environment sector. The pay is poor compared to pharma but it gives you a start. Give them a year and then jump out. Quick google search for "environmental lab testing ireland" brings up quite a few of the ones I know. Vast majority require no experience but the pay will be very low as a trade off.

Would this be an example of such a job?

https://ie.indeed.com/viewjob?jk=c402553e19eabfee&q=biologics,+microbiology+&l=Cork&tk=1cth6br1j38v7803&from=ja&alid=5bfe9de245ceb7cda2da0216&utm_source=jobseeker_emails&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=job_alerts&rgtk=1cth6br1j38v7803

TheIrishGrover

I don't know the field at all but others here seem to believe that your industry is short-staffed so if you are not even getting interviews it might be worth looking at your CV:

• How relevant is it to the place you are applying for? You may have to tweak it per company you are applying for. Obviously not lie but emphasize the exact qualifications/experience you have as it relates to the position you are applying for.
• Is it in the currently preferred style/format? I mean how long is it? From experience of the other side it should be two pages with maybe a few lines of referees on page three. Anything more and you don't bother because, more often than not, it's waffle. Just padding.
• While you may get exasperated by certain questions like "What do you think you learned from your masters" remember that people are looking to see what makes them choose you over someone else. Even if your answer was along the lines of "Well, as well as a more in-depth knowledge of XYZ, I decided to pursue my masters as I believe this would offer more to potential employers and I am a firm believer in upskilling and learning as required". You are not saying a huge amount but at least your potential employer knows that you are open to further training/education etc.
• Remember, if you are being interviewed they do see something they like in your CV so it might be also worth looking into your interview techniques.

Damien360

UCD GroupThink wrote: »

Would this be an example of such a job?

https://ie.indeed.com/viewjob?jk=c402553e19eabfee&q=biologics,+microbiology+&l=Cork&tk=1cth6br1j38v7803&from=ja&alid=5bfe9de245ceb7cda2da0216&utm_source=jobseeker_emails&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=job_alerts&rgtk=1cth6br1j38v7803

That's exactly the kind of place. Not a bad company at all but pay is low. Dungarvan.

Don't be afraid to look at public jobs also. The pay is low to begin (25-28k) but the experience is good. I just noticed your username is UCD so if you look across the campus at Medical Bureau of Road Safety on the site not far from the Conway building, they are looking for people with zero experience. They seem to have a preference for UCD graduates. Find out how to apply.....tonight. Put the beer away and do some research.

For someone with your background in Science, you seem to as struggle to identify the roles. Does UCD have a careers officer (I bet they do), that you can approach with regard to your CV and interview technique.

What are your salary expectations ? Mid 25k for zero experience is about right for the industry. The only way to increase that is by moving every 2-3 years with your experience. It takes a long time to build that experience. Your degree/masters only opens the door to jobs others cannot apply for but it is not a ticket to riches.

Martina1991

I may have missed this but what was your Undergrad degree in OP?

Did you do any placement or solo projects? Relevant experience might be more impressive on a CV than what MSc you did.

Damien360

A quick Google of UCD directory popped this up

Have you talked to these. Get them to look at your CV and expect criticism and welcome it.

I just noticed OP is banned and I am not replying to them here. Is UCD person a rereg ?

http://www.ucd.ie/careers/careers/students/[URL][/url]

UCD GroupThink

Damien360 wrote: »

A quick Google of UCD directory popped this up

Have you talked to these. Get them to look at your CV and expect criticism and welcome it.

I just noticed OP is banned and I am not replying to them here. Is UCD a person?

Could I ask you what PQ experience is? I see it on a few Eurofins job specs from time to time. I googled it before and seemed to get nothing.

Thank you

minikin

Aim for a lower level job in a company you want to work for, get it, do it for six months, demonstrate that you’ve the right attitude and climb the ladder internally.

finisklin

UCD GroupThink wrote: »

Could I ask you what PQ experience is? I see it on a few Eurofins job specs from time to time. I googled it before and seemed to get nothing.

PQ = Post Qualification Experience

Women without Makeup

engiweirdo wrote: »

The great STEM scam. There is no shortage, companies just want more competition and lower wages.

What's that?

Women without Makeup

Brregzit wrote: »

Could you name a few please?

No he can't!

Epic Eir Epic

RobinPearson wrote: »

A lot of companies in Dublin offering lab apprenticeship for people without experience and degree. You should have no problem just to walk into those jobs.
Looks like you attitude is biggest issue here and interviewers can see that.
On the other hand - there are few places that would be happy to offer you job in a lab paying 25K a year.

Could you name a few of those companies?