Takeaway tax

Checkmate19

Convinced this is the next tax coming in. There's talk in UK of red meat tax. Just like to know where did self responsibility go. Can people not be trusted to choose what they eat. They want to limit milkshakes to 300 Cal's. Again why. Most people surely treat these as a treat and want to have one should be allowed. Sick of this nanny state nonsense.

Checkmate19

Sorry before the spelling police check this I'm on phone and theres a few mistakes.

gctest50

Checkmate19 wrote: »

Most people surely treat these as a treat ..........

Nope.

Look around you - it's like visiting Whale World

Amirani

I'd say it's unlikely there could be any blanket "takeaway" tax. Does this include collections? There are also many healthy takeaway options - salad spots and the like.

Thoie

Checkmate19 wrote: »

Convinced this is the next tax coming in. There's talk in UK of red meat tax. Just like to know where did self responsibility go. Can people not be trusted to choose what they eat. They want to limit milkshakes to 300 Cal's. Again why. Most people surely treat these as a treat and want to have one should be allowed. Sick of this nanny state nonsense.

They already tax cigarettes to high heaven "because they're bad for you", so why wouldn't they tax other things that are bad for you the same way?

Raheem Euro

Checkmate19 wrote: »

Sorry before the spelling police check this I'm on phone and theres a few mistakes.

No problem. You owe government duty of €4.30 per spelling mistake. The higher band of €5.50 for grammar mess ups.

wexie

gctest50 wrote: »

Nope.

Look around you - it's like visiting Whale World

Yup, considering we now have US style weight management clinics, completely with reinforced beds etc. I think it's safe to say (some) people can't be trusted to decide what they eat.

Having said that I don't think a takeaway tax is the answer either, but I'd have no problem with some (sensibly) targeted measures to try to change the tide on this obesity epidemic.

OldMrBrennan83

Thoie wrote: »

They already tax cigarettes to high heaven "because they're bad for you", so why wouldn't they tax other things that are bad for you the same way?

Yeah just give us all a nutrient injection every morning and suck all the joy out of life.

Agricola

McDonald's milkshakes are too big and too calorific. Handing one to a small kid who'll invariably scoff the lot is just excessive. They should be smaller.

Berserker

Checkmate19 wrote: »

Most people surely treat these as a treat and want to have one should be allowed.

Take a trip past your nearest McDs and local takeaway this evening.

topper75

What about fat gain tax instead?
You get weighed at existing NCT centers twice a year and pay a % tax on any Kg differential. All foodstuffs left alone for your own free choice.
All tax raised can be ringfenced for diabetes and obesity driven HSE costs.

Rossi IRL

If they want to tax more on the unhealthy stuff then they should remove/lower tax from the healthy stuff, otherwise its just another cash grab.

When cans of coke went up, did bottled water come down...... Nope

Grayson

Thoie wrote: »

They already tax cigarettes to high heaven "because they're bad for you", so why wouldn't they tax other things that are bad for you the same way?

Why is that in quotes?

boombang

Don't see the problem with this. The amount of times recently I've seen somebody massive walking out of SPAR clutching a bottle of lucozade or similar tells me people don't have impulse control. Anything that helps society get to grips with the epidemic of obesity should be welcome.

OldMrBrennan83

Rossi IRL wrote: »

If they want to tax more on the unhealthy stuff then they should remove/lower tax from the healthy stuff, otherwise its just another cash grab.

When cans of coke went up, did bottled water come down...... Nope

It's always a cash grab. Do you honestly think the people doing this actually give a **** about anything other than cash?

Grayson

Rossi IRL wrote: »

If they want to tax more on the unhealthy stuff then they should remove/lower tax from the healthy stuff, otherwise its just another cash grab.

When cans of coke went up, did bottled water come down...... Nope

I remember reading about cities where they have filtered water available for free so you can refill reusable water bottles. That's be handy. Cut down on waste too.

Kevin Finnerty

topper75 wrote: »

What about fat gain tax instead?
You get weighed at existing NCT centers twice a year and pay a % tax on any Kg differential. All foodstuffs left alone for your own free choice.
All tax raised can be ringfenced for diabetes and obesity driven HSE costs.

Make more use of the rolling roads and check exhaust fumes simultaneously.

Micky 32

gctest50 wrote: »

Nope.

Look around you - it's like visiting Whale World

I eat lots of take away's and junk food, i'd eat more than the average i'd say. I feel fit and i'm slim and i hardly have a belly and i'm 48

Lyle Lanley

Grayson wrote: »

I remember reading about cities where they have filtered water available for free so you can refill reusable water bottles. That's be handy. Cut down on waste too.

I have a tap in my kitchen that dispenses water.

Berserker

Rossi IRL wrote: »

If they want to tax more on the unhealthy stuff then they should remove/lower tax from the healthy stuff, otherwise its just another cash grab.

When cans of coke went up, did bottled water come down...... Nope

Did the cost of producing a bottle of water come down? Why would the price of water come down just because coke went up.

Grayson

Lyle Lanley wrote: »

I have a tap in my kitchen that dispenses water.

Can you carry the tap around town with you?

Thoie

Grayson wrote: »

Why is that in quotes?

Cigarettes are bad for you, but I suspect that the government don't particularly care about that, and just love the easy income from an item that few, if any, would defend against another tax hike. The quotes were indicative of my doubt about the reasons. I was not trying to claim that cigarettes/tobacco are beneficial, or even neutral.

PlaneSpeeking

Oh look, another allowed "fat slagging off" thread. Must be Wednesday.

Micky 32

Berserker wrote: »

Did the cost of producing a bottle of water come down? Why would the price of water come down just because coke went up.

Maybe decrease the tax on the water that was added to the coke to maybe encourage people to buy the healthy water instead.

Rossi IRL

Berserker wrote: »

Did the cost of producing a bottle of water come down? Why would the price of water come down just because coke went up.

Where did I mention the cost of production falling?

I only mentioned the tax imposed on it.

Lyle Lanley

Grayson wrote: »

Can you carry the tap around town with you?

No but you can put some of the water into a transportable vessel.

mikhail

Checkmate19 wrote: »

Convinced this is the next tax coming in. There's talk in UK of red meat tax. Just like to know where did self responsibility go. Can people not be trusted to choose what they eat. They want to limit milkshakes to 300 Cal's. Again why. Most people surely treat these as a treat and want to have one should be allowed. Sick of this nanny state nonsense.

This is what we're reduced to? Outrage at what the government might do?

This reminds me of the time I discovered my girlfriend was mad at me for something I did in a dream of hers.

Checkmate19

So people who eat properly should be punished if they want to eat something not great for you one in a while.

Checkmate19

This reminds me of the time I discovered my girlfriend was mad at me for something I did in a dream of hers.[/quote]
No need to be so smart. Last time I checked you where allowed to start threads on here.

Checkmate19

Also reason kids are getting bigger alot to do with sitting on phones and gaming devices and not getting exercise

Humphrey BoaGart

Takeaways are already taxed at 9%. Which will increase in the new year.

Minerals are taxed at 23%.

OldMrBrennan83

Checkmate19 wrote: »

Also reason kids are getting bigger alot to do with sitting on phones and gaming devices and not getting exercise

Parents need hit hard to take responsibility on that front. Not some token gesture cash grab. People want everyone else to do too much of the rearing of their kids now.

Rossi IRL

Rossi IRL wrote: »

Where did I mention the cost of production falling?

I only mentioned the tax imposed on it.

That’s a bull**** excuse anyway. 2L of water is €1.40 or so cheaper than 2L of Coca Cola.

Franz Von Peppercorn

Checkmate19 wrote: »

So people who eat properly should be punished if they want to eat something not great for you one in a while.

In your made up world? Apparently.

jimgoose

Taxing takeaways or meat is ridiculous. To make a real and substantial impact on public health, any and all processed food products containing excessive sugar and/or salt should be taxed out of existence, however and wherever they're sold.

OldMrBrennan83

jimgoose wrote: »

Taxing takeaways or meat is ridiculous. To make a real and substantial impact on public health, any and all processed food products containing excessive sugar and/or salt should be taxed out of existence, however and wherever they're sold.

No, statements like that just because you've your own preference is what's ridiculous.

jimgoose

Patww79 wrote: »

No, statements like that just because you've your own preference is what's ridiculous.

I find that pronouncement a little bizarre to put it mildly. Processed food manufacturers put dangerous levels of salt and sugar into products, particularly those marketed as "low fat".

OldMrBrennan83

jimgoose wrote: »

I find that pronouncement a little bizarre to put it mildly. Processed food manufacturers put dangerous levels of salt and sugar into products, particularly those marketed as "low fat".

My apologies, I read your first sentence as "Eating" instead of "Taxing" and I was referring to that. I agree with the rest, well I agree with it all now that I've grasped basic reading. Sorry.

DEFTLEFTHAND

Human lungs need to be taxed heavily as they emit carbon dioxide which in turn kills polar bears.

jimgoose

Patww79 wrote: »

My apologies, I read your first sentence as "Eating" instead of "Taxing" and I was referring to that. I agree with the rest, well I agree with it all now that I've grasped basic reading. Sorry.

Right you be Chief, I did wonder, mind! :pac:

eastie17

topper75 wrote: »

What about fat gain tax instead?
You get weighed at existing NCT centers twice a year and pay a % tax on any Kg differential. All foodstuffs left alone for your own free choice.
All tax raised can be ringfenced for diabetes and obesity driven HSE costs.

It would need to test body fat percentage to be fair. Could be adding lots of beefy muscle as the increase in kg

Pyr0

Soon there will be a tax tax, then what do we do?

Captain Chaos

Pyr0 wrote: »

Soon there will be a tax tax, then what do we do?

Your wages get taxed before you get them then you get taxed again on everything you spend your wages on. So yes there is tax tax.

Then if you buy a car you are taxed on the car price plus yearly motor tax. That's tax tax tax. Great fun.

Cleopatra_

I can see where this thread is heading and it involves fatty bashing. Yawn. I'll go and find some maltesers to increase my chances of diabetes.

jimgoose

Cleopatra_ wrote: »

I can see where this thread is heading and it involves fatty bashing. Yawn. I'll go and find some maltesers to increase my chances of diabetes.

For me, it shall be two pints of beer followed by a rare sirloin steak with coleslaw and boiled potatoes. With lashings of real butter.

Humphrey BoaGart

Pyr0 wrote: »

Soon there will be a tax tax, then what do we do?

Pay it and shaddup.

ED E

Checkmate19 wrote: »

Also reason kids are getting bigger alot to do with sitting on phones and gaming devices and not getting exercise

Nope.

Diet is the primary determinant of weight. Exercise makes you healthy, food controls your weight.

Checkmate19

No exercise helps you keep weight off or I must be living in a different universe. Sitting down all the time is not good for you and will contribute to weight gain.

Checkmate19

Excercise burns calories or again I'm living on a different planet.

Checkmate19

And anyone saying kids constantly on phones and gaming machines rather than out playing is not effecting obseity is denial.

omb0wyn5ehpij9

Checkmate19 wrote: »

No exercise helps you keep weight off or I must be living in a different universe. Sitting down all the time is not good for you and will contribute to weight gain.

It will contribute to it, but the majority is down to diet. It is widely accepted that weight gain/loss is 75% diet, 25% exercise