Pat Kenny NIMBYism

Ronaldinho

Should have bought the site himself.

elperello

PK is just exercising his right to take part in the planning process.
Every house owner has the same right.

MrMusician18

elperello wrote: »

PK is just exercising his right to take part in the planning process.
Every house owner has the same right.

Indeed they do, but you don't need to be a house owner, anyone can make an objection. You just have to pay the fee.

Franz Von Peppercorn

elperello wrote: »

PK is just exercising his right to take part in the planning process.
Every house owner has the same right.

And yet most of these objections are in rich areas - the ones that succeed anyway. And no chance of a halting site either.

Harry Palmr

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Suburbs and even streets should be considered ecosystems - they reach a certain equilibrium over time. Everyone knows everyone else, they feel safe, nothing unexpected happens - ever! I'd be appalled if the green across from me was suddenly given PP to appease some voracious developer.

Fully agree with this. Most of South Dublin is way overdeveloped as it is. It's just endless stretches of houses and apartment blocks. A walk through, Sandymount or Dun Laoghaire are examples of lousy planning swallowing most of the green space. I get that they are sought after places to live, but for the life of me I can't see why.

patrickbrophy18

patrickbrophy18 wrote: »

The plans can be seen here. Honestly, I don't think they are half bad.


It's just the usual NIMBY-ism.

FYP

paleoperson

Glad to see the responses here. OP thought t'would be a sure thing to get you all riled up considering the popular view seems to be a minor dislike of Pat.

M.Cribben wrote: »

However, given the chronic property supply shortage and homelessness emergency we're experiencing, this type of rubbish makes my blood boil:

"There are starving and homeless children in the world! How can you do this when there are starving children, please think of the poor children and end this rubbish, it's an emergency!"

blinding

Pat is holding out for His Own Halting Site .

From recent pronouncements all of Ireland's Elite are Holding Out for their Own Halting Site .

It the ‘ In “ Thing with the Irish Elite at the “ Mo "

mikemac2

M.Cribben wrote: »

Living beside apartment blocks with a small % social housing, oh the horror.

He grew up on the North Circular Road, went to school in Richmond St in the inner city and had a early lecturing job in Bolton Street. Fair to say at 67 Kenny knows more about living in areas with social housing than many here

He didn’t live in south county Dublin all his life

Fann Linn

blinding wrote: »

Pat is holding out for His Own Halting Site .

From recent pronouncements all of Ireland's Elite are Holding Out for their Own Halting Site .

It the ‘ In “ Thing with the Irish Elite at the “ Mo "

Its like those others from a few years back, including Geldof, who wanted to keep Syrians as pets in their homes. When reality bit, they shyed away.

blinding

Fann Linn wrote: »

Its like those others from a few years back, including Geldof, who wanted to keep Syrians as pets in their homes. When reality bit, they shyed away.

They talk a good story but don’t walk the walk .:rolleyes:

Idbatterim

That nimby pat Kenny now objecting to a development beside his house. I’ve a simple solution, use the land to house travelers, no construction and low rise and all his other ****ing hypocrite mates in the media can go down to welcome them to their new home. I doubt Kenny would have said he had an issue living beside them!

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/broadcaster-pat-kenny-objects-to-ill-thought-housing-development-next-to-his-dalkey-home-883587.html

He is right to object. If this is allowed, then the whole of Harbour road will end up as apartments. Expensive apartments at that.

These won't be ones that end the housing crisis, these will be ones owned by people who want a base in Ireland to come back to from their tax avoiding home in Portugal.

There are fifty properties going in at Charleville, the other side of the church to Kenny. If this goes ahead as well, then there are over seventy new properties being built on what is a quiet road with pretty poor junctions at either end and has two junior schools and a senior school.

Thankfully Barrett didn't get his way with building at Bulloch Harbour but he seems to determined to build in this road and is splashing plenty of cash. Not bad for someone who was a partner in a company that went bust a few years ago owing €2.7bn

AllForIt

I think that if one works hard all their life they shouldn't be castigated for having a preference to live in a higher social class area if they can afford it. The ppl who look down on this make me sick.

M.Cribben

AllForIt wrote: »

I think that if one works hard all their life they shouldn't be castigated for having a preference to live in a higher social class area if they can afford it. The ppl who look down on this make me sick.

26 properties (most likely carrying a high price tag) with a small % social housing, is not going to turn Dalkey into Ballyfermot.

Of course everyone has the right to live in more affluent areas, but they don't have any right over what happens on other people's privately owned land in that area.

mikeym

Poor old Pat

postername1

pat kenny is a shill for George soros
check out his connection to peter sutherland and simon coveney

and professor lucas from the uk

and larry donnely and alan shatter

elperello

M.Cribben wrote: »

26 properties (most likely carrying a high price tag) with a small % social housing, is not going to turn Dalkey into Ballyfermot.

Of course everyone has the right to live in more affluent areas, but they don't have any right over what happens on other people's privately owned land in that area.

It's not a question of having a right over what happens on other people's privately owned land.

The owner of the land absolutely has the right to apply for planning permission and any third party has the right to make an objection or observation on that application.

Then the local authority makes a decision. After that the land owner or the objector can appeal to An Bord Pleanala.

Humility is Pat's strongest suit. He wouldn't deign to trouble the courts repeatedly. Or court an audience comprising the same riff-raff blighting his lofty perch in Dalkey.

Sciprio

This is what is frustrating. They have nice areas and homes and want that to remain. They don't want their houses to lose value or the area receiving a bad name, And to be honest that's fine, eveyone wants a nice peaceful place.

Yet these are the same people who are most in favour of mass immigration and other people shouldn't be "racist" to travellers because it makes it makes them feel good and to show how tolerant they are.

They mean good but they don't want the fruits of seeds that they planted in other areas. Out of sight, out of mind. Other areas will have to put up with it and accept it and to question anything to do with it deems you racist for questioning their noble causes. It's not them competing for places in low end jobs,housing and health.

Sciprio

AllForIt wrote: »

I think that if one works hard all their life they shouldn't be castigated for having a preference to live in a higher social class area if they can afford it. The ppl who look down on this make me sick.

You're right and i and many others have no problem with that but when others question decisions like a halting site being site up or homes for travellers next to them they get called racist by these very same people who wouldn't like it next to them even though they say different we all know they're lies.

tayto lover

Ronaldinho wrote: »

Should have bought the site himself.

Or tried to claim it as his own like he did with Gorse Hill.

Sciprio

Sciprio wrote: »

This is what is frustrating. They have nice areas and homes and want that to remain. They don't want their houses to lose value or the area receiving a bad name, And to be honest that's fine, eveyone wants a nice peaceful place.

Yet these are the same people who are most in favour of mass immigration and other people shouldn't be "racist" to travellers because it makes it makes them feel good and to show how tolerant they are.

They mean good but they don't want the fruits of seeds that they planted in other areas. Out of sight, out of mind. Other areas will have to put up with it and accept it and to question anything to do with it deems you racist for questioning their noble causes. It's not them competing for places in low end jobs,housing and health.

Disconnected from the real world.

Sciprio

Deleted User wrote: »

In summary, what the sheltered elite cannot comprehend what we have to endure in rural Ireland.

They live in their own bubble. If it seems like nothing is being done then people will defend themselves and homes like Padraig Nally. I don't think he woke up one morning thinking this is the day i literally have to defend my home today because nobody else will. Elderly people out there especially with nobody else around on their own must be absolutely frightened.

AllForIt

Sciprio wrote: »

This is what is frustrating. They have nice areas and homes and want that to remain. They don't want their houses to lose value or the area receiving a bad name, And to be honest that's fine, eveyone wants a nice peaceful place.

Yet these are the same people who are most in favour of mass immigration and other people shouldn't be "racist" to travellers because it makes it makes them feel good and to show how tolerant they are.

They mean good but they don't want the fruits of seeds that they planted in other areas. Out of sight, out of mind. Other areas will have to put up with it and accept it and to question anything to do with it deems you racist for questioning their noble causes. It's not them competing for places in low end jobs,housing and health.

Good point. Im not sure if Pat is one of those types though.

Sciprio

AllForIt wrote: »

Good point. Im not sure if Pat is one of those types though.

Who knows but they hang among themselves and groupthink is strong so in my opinion i'd think he'd be a no. Bob Geldolf said he'd house migrants, it never happened but it got him in the news.

Sciprio

Sciprio wrote: »

Who knows but they hang among themselves and groupthink is strong so in my opinion i'd think he'd be a no. Bob Geldolf said he'd house migrants, it never happened but it got him in the news.

It's no wonder that Montrose has festered into a backslapping cesspit.

postername1

Sciprio wrote: »

Who knows but they hang among themselves and groupthink is strong so in my opinion i'd think he'd be a no. Bob Geldolf said he'd house migrants, it never happened but it got him in the news.

why are you mentioning bob geldof, i hope it's not anit-semetism

Sciprio

Deleted User wrote: »

It's no wonder that Montrose has festered into a backslapping cesspit.

Even globally, Look at all these progressive leaders, celebs and business people. They travel around the globe so much meeting with eachother discussing business,running countries and being the enterainment to keep the masses happy. Travelling nearly constantly, always on the move that you maybe have they lost national identity? Their proud of the country they're from but we are all global. The other celebs/business/leaders are all friends meeting a lot of time in varying parts of the world so it must be feeling smaller to them. Relax immigration here, more minimum wage workers and further lowering wages so more money for you being a leader of one country helping a business buddy in another.


They then send some of their money to a tax haven nation by another friend to store their wealth. Businesses get to lobby their ideas, laws are created with "workarounds" Poor workers conditions? Oil spill? corruption? Here's a 5 million fine even though you made a profit of nearly around €350 million last year. ;)I suppose the celebrities and brain dead reality tv is to keep us occupied and dumbed down not to question ideas. They're are one and global so surely we're all one?Your wages might get suppressed but it's for a good cause. :rolleyes:

postername1 wrote: »

why are you mentioning bob geldof, i hope it's not anit-semetism

Nah, but if i ever mention something bad about the israeli government about destroying houses and building on other land don't forget to shout anti-semitism followed by holocaust, holocaust to shut me down.

Grayson

Sciprio wrote: »

This is what is frustrating. They have nice areas and homes and want that to remain. They don't want their houses to lose value or the area receiving a bad name, And to be honest that's fine, eveyone wants a nice peaceful place.

Yet these are the same people who are most in favour of mass immigration and other people shouldn't be "racist" to travellers because it makes it makes them feel good and to show how tolerant they are.

They mean good but they don't want the fruits of seeds that they planted in other areas. Out of sight, out of mind. Other areas will have to put up with it and accept it and to question anything to do with it deems you racist for questioning their noble causes. It's not them competing for places in low end jobs,housing and health.

How the fcuk does a thread about Pat Kenny turn into a thread about immigration. Seriously, you have issues.

Edit: Not as many issues as this guy

postername1 wrote: »

pat kenny is a shill for George soros
check out his connection to peter sutherland and simon coveney

and professor lucas from the uk

and larry donnely and alan shatter