What is your impression of Aspergers syndrome?

CinemaGuy45

A number of posters on this very board have it and they are a mixed bag.

A relatives son has it a friends grandson has it I work with a couple of people with it.
I notice some of those with the condition are prone to online trolling for the sake of attention seeking as they seem unable to interact with people in a normal way.

My impression of these people is that they are very annoying and emotionally immature.
They may seem intelligent but they seem to panic when they have to do anything outside their narrow comfort zone.

They seem to mess up all relationships and friendships that is if they can even form them in the first place.
They also come across as selfish and weird and they can ask the same question over and over again as if looking for reassurance.

Despite the PC version of the syndrome these people seem prone to mood swings and bursts of anger if they are pushed too far outside their comfort zone.

What are your impressions of people with Aspergers am I being unfair or am I being truthful?

Are these people weirdos creepy and anlying?

SEPT 23 1989

They are the next stage of evolution

CinemaGuy45

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

They are the next stage of evolution

Don't believe that for a second many stay single not a good way for breeding up their numbers.;)

Kristopherus

OP, go back to a cinema, preferably one showing a continuous spool of Tom & Jerry cartoons:D:D:D.

wakka12

I only know one person with aspergers. Hes fine , you mightnt even notice unless you knew him for a while. He just seems off, hes very blunt and will say things that hurt peoples feelings and not even know he did anything wrong, hes quite narcisstic and selfish though Im not sure if thats related to the condition, I think hes very mild/high functioning though

SEPT 23 1989

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

Don't believe that for a second many stay single not a good way for breeding up their numbers.;)

Without them we wouldn't be doing this

Zaph

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

A number of posters on this very board have it and they are a mixed bag.

A relatives son has it a friends grandson has it I work with a couple of people with it.
I notice some of those with the condition are prone to online trolling for the sake of attention seeking as they seem unable to interact with people in a normal way.

My impression of these people is that they are very annoying and emotionally immature.
They may seem intelligent but they seem to panic when they have to do anything outside their narrow comfort zone.

They seem to mess up all relationships and friendships that is if they can even form them in the first place.
They also come across as selfish and weird and they can ask the same question over and over again as if looking for reassurance.

Despite the PC version of the syndrome these people seem prone to mood swings and bursts of anger if they are pushed too far outside their comfort zone.

What are your impressions of people with Aspergers am I being unfair or am I being truthful?

Are these people weirdos creepy and annoying?

You seem like a lovely person, so full of empathy for others who may have daily struggles that the rest of us may never understand or will never have to endure.

CinemaGuy45

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Without them we wouldn't be doing this

That is so true.;)

CinemaGuy45

Zaph wrote: »

You seem like a lovely person, so full of empathy for others who may have daily struggles that the rest of us may never understand or will never have to endure.

Have you ever reached out to any of these people yourself?

JohnnyFlash

Work in the lower rungs of IT. Obsessive sorts - mad into comics, Japanese cartoons, computer games. Wear combats, skateboard runners, hoodies and wallet chains. Questionable personal hygiene.

Jack Moore

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Without them we wouldn't be doing this

balderdash

Yer Da sells Avon

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

What are your impressions of people with Aspergers am I being unfair or am I being truthful?

I think you're being very unfair. Perhaps to yourself? You said in another thread that you have Asperger's.

CinemaGuy45

It is not a disease and everything I have said it 100% truthful.

Zaph

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

Have you ever reached out to any of these people yourself?

I have a friend who has two children on the spectrum and have worked with several people over the years who I'd be very surprised weren't on it as well. Not entirely sure how that's relevant though, I'm not the one slagging them off.

JohnnyFlash

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

Work in the lower rungs of IT. Obsessive sorts - mad into comics, Japanese cartoons, computer games. Wear combats, skateboard runners, hoodies and wallet chains. Questionable personal hygiene.

Is your name Otto, or Aongus?

Calhoun

Taking the piss out of people on the autism spectrum, are there other syndromes you dislike? How about people with down syndrome?

CinemaGuy45

Yer Da sells Avon wrote: »

I think you're being very unfair. Perhaps to yourself? You said in another thread that you have Asperger's.

Thanks for blowing my cover so early on the thread.:rolleyes:


I know the original post is correct as it describes me and I don't find it hurtful I find it insightful as I do my best to work around this.

You have ruined my thread I wanted to gauge peoples true impressions.:D

Blazer

I honestly don't know where to start with the Ops post. It smacks of a complete lack of knowledge and immaturity.

My son is 5 and has aspergers. Basically that means he has problems understanding social situations and what he can and cannot do.
What this involves is lots of training with him, home tuition teaching him and preparing him for school. Basically my son has been in a classroom since was 2.5 for 20 hours a week.
Its tough work and involves ourselves also teaching him over the years on how to behave etc.
Autistic children are bound to routines so its important to keep them to a routine.
He is prone to outbursts ie trying to get him to eat something that he doesn't like ie or doing something he doesn't like. This can result in him roaring and screaming and lashing out. It can be scary but its extremely upsetting for him too as he's too young to understand what's going on. All we can do is explain to him calmly and quietly what is happening and allow him to calm down. Now he's going to school and loves it. He's started out in a unit and they hope to merge him into mainstream and the school has a good record of merging special needs kids into mainstream school.
A lot of older people with aspergers never had this level of support hence why they stick out a lot more. Also they lack social niceties etc and can come across as uncaring and abrupt.

Pug160

Well first things first: a proper diagnosis should be confirmed before any condition is named. We seem to be living in a time where lots of people are armchair experts on everything. I remember watching a documentary on a murder trial (I forget who it was about) and one of the psychiatrists reminded everyone that shyness and odd behaviour do not always equal autism. In one way it's good that there is more understanding of these types of disorders nowadays, but on the other hand the terms themselves seem ripe to be used as weapons by trolls.

mynamejeff

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

A number of posters on this very board have it and they are a mixed bag.

A relatives son has it a friends grandson has it I work with a couple of people with it.
I notice some of those with the condition are prone to online trolling for the sake of attention seeking as they seem unable to interact with people in a normal way.

My impression of these people is that they are very annoying and emotionally immature.
They may seem intelligent but they seem to panic when they have to do anything outside their narrow comfort zone.

They seem to mess up all relationships and friendships that is if they can even form them in the first place.
They also come across as selfish and weird and they can ask the same question over and over again as if looking for reassurance.

Despite the PC version of the syndrome these people seem prone to mood swings and bursts of anger if they are pushed too far outside their comfort zone.

What are your impressions of people with Aspergers am I being unfair or am I being truthful?

Are these people weirdos creepy and annoying?

am very familiar with the issue ,

some can be intelligent articulate friendly helpful individuals

they should be entertained up to a point and beyond that treated with sympathy and then after that the same as anyone else

some can be self centered self absorbed ego eccentric man/woman children but so can politicians so what can you do ?

CinemaGuy45

Blazer wrote: »

I honestly don't know where to start with the Ops post. It smacks of a complete lack of knowledge and immaturity.

My son is 5 and has aspergers. Basically that means he has problems understanding social situations and what he can and cannot do.
What this involves is lots of training with him, home tuition teaching him and preparing him for school. Basically my son has been in a classroom since was 2.5 for 20 hours a week.
Its tough work and involves ourselves also teaching him over the years on how to behave etc.
Autistic children are bound to routines so its important to keep them to a routine.
He is prone to outbursts ie trying to get him to eat something that he doesn't like ie or doing something he doesn't like. This can result in him roaring and screaming and lashing out. It can be scary but its extremely upsetting for him too as he's too young to understand what's going on. All we can do is explain to him calmly and quietly what is happening and allow him to calm down. Now he's going to school and loves it. He's started out in a unit and they hope to merge him into mainstream and the school has a good record of merging special needs kids into mainstream school.
A lot of older people with aspergers never had this level of support hence why they stick out a lot more. Also they lack social niceties etc and can come across as uncaring and abrupt.

I am an expert on the topic at this stage and I really hope for all the best for your son.

mikemac2

wakka12 wrote: »

I only know one person with aspergers. Hes fine , you mightnt even notice unless you knew him for a while. He just seems off, hes very blunt and will say things that hurt peoples feelings and not even know he did anything wrong, hes quite narcisstic and selfish though Im not sure if thats related to the condition, I think hes very mild/high functioning though

If someone has a diagnosis for Aspergers and acts like that in the workplace do they get a free pass? Can’t discipline me, it’s my condition

Jack Moore

Blazer wrote: »

I honestly don't know where to start with the Ops post. It smacks of a complete lack of knowledge and immaturity.

My son is 5 and has aspergers. Basically that means he has problems understanding social situations and what he can and cannot do.
What this involves is lots of training with him, home tuition teaching him and preparing him for school. Basically my son has been in a classroom since was 2.5 for 20 hours a week.
Its tough work and involves ourselves also teaching him over the years on how to behave etc.
Autistic children are bound to routines so its important to keep them to a routine.
He is prone to outbursts ie trying to get him to eat something that he doesn't like ie or doing something he doesn't like. This can result in him roaring and screaming and lashing out. It can be scary but its extremely upsetting for him too as he's too young to understand what's going on. All we can do is explain to him calmly and quietly what is happening and allow him to calm down. Now he's going to school and loves it. He's started out in a unit and they hope to merge him into mainstream and the school has a good record of merging special needs kids into mainstream school.
A lot of older people with aspergers never had this level of support hence why they stick out a lot more. Also they lack social niceties etc and can come across as uncaring and abrupt.

they dont come across that way they are that way.
my brother is like that hes 40 soon so he belongs to the untreated but itsvery very hard to understand how someone soo clever and soo sucessful can be soo hurtful and mean

Blazer

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

Work in the lower rungs of IT. Obsessive sorts - mad into comics, Japanese cartoons, computer games. Wear combats, skateboard runners, hoodies and wallet chains. Questionable personal hygiene.

couldn't be further from the truth. A lot of them are highly qualified.
Its estimated that a huge percentage of specialist surgeons worldwide are on the spectrum and one of the reasons this is the case is because of their ocd personality.

CinemaGuy45

Blazer wrote: »

couldn't be further from the truth. A lot of them are highly qualified.
Its estimated that a huge percentage of specialist surgeons worldwide are on the spectrum and one of the reasons this is the case is because of their ocd personality.

Some are unemployed and unemployable some are just average scratch that most of them are average and a few of them are at genius level.

nullzero

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

A number of posters on this very board have it and they are a mixed bag.

A relatives son has it a friends grandson has it I work with a couple of people with it.
I notice some of those with the condition are prone to online trolling for the sake of attention seeking as they seem unable to interact with people in a normal way.

My impression of these people is that they are very annoying and emotionally immature.
They may seem intelligent but they seem to panic when they have to do anything outside their narrow comfort zone.

They seem to mess up all relationships and friendships that is if they can even form them in the first place.
They also come across as selfish and weird and they can ask the same question over and over again as if looking for reassurance.

Despite the PC version of the syndrome these people seem prone to mood swings and bursts of anger if they are pushed too far outside their comfort zone.

What are your impressions of people with Aspergers am I being unfair or am I being truthful?

Are these people weirdos creepy and annoying?

I'm not sure what you've outlined is a reasonable representation of aspergers syndrome, particularly in relation to online posting habits. It's as if you're using that as a stick to beat people who disagree with you with.

batgoat

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

A number of posters on this very board have it and they are a mixed bag.

A relatives son has it a friends grandson has it I work with a couple of people with it.
I notice some of those with the condition are prone to online trolling for the sake of attention seeking as they seem unable to interact with people in a normal way.

My impression of these people is that they are very annoying and emotionally immature.
They may seem intelligent but they seem to panic when they have to do anything outside their narrow comfort zone.

They seem to mess up all relationships and friendships that is if they can even form them in the first place.
They also come across as selfish and weird and they can ask the same question over and over again as if looking for reassurance.

Despite the PC version of the syndrome these people seem prone to mood swings and bursts of anger if they are pushed too far outside their comfort zone.

What are your impressions of people with Aspergers am I being unfair or am I being truthful?

Are these people weirdos creepy and annoying?

Okay, so you seem to think those with aspergers are 'weirdos creepy and annoying'. You come across as incredibly judgmental and immature on a topic that you have a pretty minimal understanding. Thanks for clearing up that being 'anti pc' is voicing ignorant opinions though!

Just to clear it up, it's classified as a ' developmental disorder' and not a disease.

Mam of 4

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

I am an expert on the topic at this stage and I really hope for all the best for your son.

Tbh , you're an expert on the topic in how it is for you , not for everyone else with a diagnosis of AS . No two people are the same in how it affects them .

Blazer

Jack Moore wrote: »

they dont come across that way they are that way.
my brother is like that hes 40 soon so he belongs to the untreated but itsvery very hard to understand how someone soo clever and soo sucessful can be soo hurtful and mean

The best way I can describe is as follows.
Aspergers don't feel the same as you or I. They have to basically learn how to fake social manners so as not to stick out and it involves years of training for them to understand why someone might be upset at something they said or did.
The government barely support special needs as it is so someone in their 40s would have received no help or support whatsoever.
You should read more into it in that it will help you understand what your brother goes through and how it might help your relationship with him.
Some presenter's son over in the UK got a role as an actor in one of the soaps.
She was asked would he be able to act and her reply was " he's been acting his whole life trying to fit in with normal people".

brightspark

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

A number of posters on this very board have it and they are a mixed bag.

As is everyone else on Boards.

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

A relatives son has it a friends grandson has it I work with a couple of people with it.
I notice some of those with the condition are prone to online trolling for the sake of attention seeking as they seem unable to interact with people in a normal way.

To some this post could be considered trolling.

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

My impression of these people is that they are very annoying and emotionally immature.

Your impression doesn't mean it's fact. There are plenty of annoying and immature people in life, not all of them have Aspergers

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

They may seem intelligent but they seem to panic when they have to do anything outside their narrow comfort zone.

Define intelligent, and again a lot of people struggle when having to go beyond their comfort zones, it's sort of the definition of "comfort zone"

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

They seem to mess up all relationships and friendships that is if they can even form them in the first place.

Perhaps they weren't true friendships then?

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

They also come across as selfish and weird and they can ask the same question over and over again as if looking for reassurance.

Again selfishness is more common than Aspergers, and so is asking questions until you understand the answers given?

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

Despite the PC version of the syndrome these people seem prone to mood swings and bursts of anger if they are pushed too far outside their comfort zone.

Wouldn't you get angry and upset if people constantly failed to understand you and insisted you do things their way?

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

What are your impressions of people with Aspergers am I being unfair or am I being truthful?

You are being unfair in that you are saying everyone with Aspergers is the same, they aren't. They are unique individuals with skills in some areas and not others...just like everyone else.

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

Are these people weirdos creepy and annoying?

Do you think it's okay to call someone with a condition that they have little control over a weirdo? creepy? annoying? Frankly it says more about your personality than theirs.

brightspark

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

Don't believe that for a second many stay single not a good way for breeding up their numbers.;)

There are theories that it has a genetic component as it appears to run in families, so not all stay single.

Sleeper12

CinemaGuy45 wrote:

A number of posters on this very board have it and they are a mixed bag.

CinemaGuy45 wrote:

A relatives son has it a friends grandson has it I work with a couple of people with it. I notice some of those with the condition are prone to online trolling for the sake of attention seeking as they seem unable to interact with people in a normal way.

CinemaGuy45 wrote:

My impression of these people is that they are very annoying and emotionally immature. They may seem intelligent but they seem to panic when they have to do anything outside their narrow comfort zone.

CinemaGuy45 wrote:

They seem to mess up all relationships and friendships that is if they can even form them in the first place. They also come across as selfish and weird and they can ask the same question over and over again as if looking for reassurance.

CinemaGuy45 wrote:

Despite the PC version of the syndrome these people seem prone to mood swings and bursts of anger if they are pushed too far outside their comfort zone.

CinemaGuy45 wrote:

What are your impressions of people with Aspergers am I being unfair or am I being truthful?

CinemaGuy45 wrote:

Are these people weirdos creepy and annoying?

After posting all of that I'm not sure if you understand the term trolling.

Someone's having a bad weekend that's for sure

CinemaGuy45

Mam of 4 wrote: »

Tbh , you're an expert on the topic in how it is for you , not for everyone else with a diagnosis of AS . No two people are the same in how it affects them .

The original post is how I have been described.;)


Did you read all my posts or just the first one?

Your right not everybody is the same but there are common traits and I know many Aspies at this stage.:)

I started this thread undercover and I was busted a few posts in I was trying to gauge what the general population believed.

Somebody said it was a disease for example.

Calhoun

Very stupid original post, quite deceitful, especially at a time where others are working quite hard to get people on the spectrum with a foot in the door to big business ect.

Ironically it's quite self serving and seems to be the OP looking for reassurance.

ExoPolitic

brightspark wrote: »

There are theories that it has a genetic component as it appears to run in families, so not all stay single.

I can indeed confirm that it runs in families...

CinemaGuy45

mikemac2 wrote: »

If someone has a diagnosis for Aspergers and acts like that in the workplace do they get a free pass? Can’t discipline me, it’s my condition

No people with Aspergers are bad socially they don't get a free pass they usually get fired.

https://www.autism-help.org/story-adults-employment-autism.htm

Mam of 4

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

The original post is how I have been described.;)


Did you read all my posts or just the first one?

Your right not everybody is the same but there are common traits and I know many Aspies at this stage.:)

I started this thread undercover and I was busted a few posts in I was trying to gauge what the general population believed.

Somebody said it was a disease for example.

I have read all the posts , and I wasn't trying to be smart or funny with you . Yes , there are common traits , but you said you are an expert on the subject , and I said yes , in relation to yourself . You wouldn't be an expert on mine or anyone elses child with AS .

Calhoun

ExoPolitic wrote: »

I can indeed confirm that it runs in families...

Not all the time it doesn't, it can be generic but it's not the only source of it.

CinemaGuy45

Calhoun wrote: »

Very stupid original post, quite deceitful, especially at a time where others are working quite hard to get people on the spectrum with a foot in the door to big business ect.

Ironically it's quite self serving and seems to be the OP looking for reassurance.

Posts like the one below are why I started the thread just trying to clear up the misinformation a lot of people have.

Steven81

There is an ASD thread on boards, i suggest ye read it and see the troubles that people encounter.

CinemaGuy45

Mam of 4 wrote: »

I have read all the posts , and I wasn't trying to be smart or funny with you . Yes , there are common traits , but you said you are an expert on the subject , and I said yes , in relation to yourself . You wouldn't be an expert on mine or anyone elses child with AS .

Never claimed to be but I know a hell of a lot more than all those posters with their false outrage.
My whole purpose for this thread was to hook people in who had false misconceptions about Aspergers and correct them.


For example, it is not a disease or a mental disorder.

Having a few outraged people in the thread correct misconceptions was also useful.
Yer Da sells Avon blowing my cover was not.

I was posting in a thread from another Aspie over the weekend and he was posting rubbish and using his Asperger's as an excuse that is what motivated me to start this thread.

Calhoun

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

Posts like the one below are why I started the thread just trying to clear up the misinformation a lot of people have.

You could have been transparent and still had the right conversation. The post you highlight is actually in support of people on the spectrum and the worst crime they made is mislabelling as a disease.

I know for my daughter id rather have people be sympathetic/empathize and willing to work with her than writing her off from the get go.

batgoat

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

Posts like the one below are why I started the thread just trying to clear up the misinformation a lot of people have.

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

Never claimed to be but I know a hell of a lot more than all those posters with their false outrage.
My whole purpose for this thread was to hook people in who had false misconceptions about Aspergers and correct them.


For example, it is not a disease or a mental disorder.

Eh, you described people with aspergers as 'creepy', 'weirdos' etc. You either started this thread to troll or you yourself have a pretty warped and nasty view of those with aspergers.

brightspark

One thing I consider very unfair for those on the spectrum is that while it is known that they have problems communicating, somehow the "normal" people who are experts in communication are unable to understand them.

Would you say a deaf person is to blame if they can't hear you?

CinemaGuy45

batgoat wrote: »

Eh, you described people with aspergers as 'creepy', 'weirdos' etc. You either started this thread to troll or you yourself have a pretty warped and nasty view of those with aspergers.

Aspergers is a communication disorder at its heart and the post I have just quoted from you proves not only have you not read all of the thread you have not even read all of my posts in the thread.

How Ironic.:D

Calhoun

brightspark wrote: »

One thing I consider very unfair for those on the spectrum is that while it is known that they have problems communicating, somehow the "normal" people who are experts in communication are unable to understand them.

Would you say a deaf person is to blame if they can't hear you?

To counterbalance that part of the right education for people on the spectrum is to help them to communicate appropriately.

You cannot cover all scenarios hence why having some support in a working environment is required however it's not a free pass for really bad behavior .

Mam of 4

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

Never claimed to be but I know a hell of a lot more than all those posters with their false outrage.
My whole purpose for this thread was to hook people in who had false misconceptions about Aspergers and correct them.


For example, it is not a disease or a mental disorder.

Having a few outraged people in the thread correct misconceptions was also useful.
Yer Da sells Avon blowing my cover was not.

I was posting in a thread from another Aspie over the weekend and he was posting rubbish and using his Asperger's as an excuse that is what motivated me to start this thread.

I don't think anyone has posted with false outrage .
Your opening post was quite dismissive , name calling etc .

If your cover was not blown , would you have continued to 'hook' in people as you put it ?Instead of being open and honest and willing to answer questions or try enlighten others about AS .

CinemaGuy45

Mam of 4 wrote: »

I don't think anyone has posted with false outrage .
Your opening post was quite dismissive , name calling etc .

If your cover was not blown , would you have continued to 'hook' in people as you put it ?Instead of being open and honest and willing to answer questions or try enlighten others about AS .

You mean boring and dull the thread would have dropped off the board.

The post disagreeing with my first post has 16 thanks and I find that quite encouraging.

But my cover is blown and this thread now has a lot of attention if you have any questions ask away.:)

sullivlo

<SNIP>

Jack Moore wrote: »

shes a teacher
teachers know everythiong

A teacher. Yes. One who has taught students who are mildly on the spectrum. And those who are so far on the spectrum that they’re borderline for continuing in mainstream education.

Aside from the experience I have in teaching students with ASD, I had to study a huge amount of psychology of adolescence and education, and any professionals that we engaged with considered ASD to be a diagnosis or disorder, not a disease.

You can’t catch Aspergers or Autism. Calling it a disease is derogatory, IMO.

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

No, not a doctor but he is correct.

She

CinemaGuy45

sullivlo wrote: »

Technically, yes. If we’re getting into specifics anyway



A teacher. Yes. One who has taught students who are mildly on the spectrum. And those who are so far on the spectrum that they’re borderline for continuing in mainstream education.

Aside from the experience I have in teaching students with ASD, I had to study a huge amount of psychology of adolescence and education, and any professionals that we engaged with considered ASD to be a diagnosis or disorder, not a disease.

You can’t catch Aspergers or Autism. Calling it a disease is derogatory, IMO.



She

Do forgive me.;)

dr.fuzzenstein

CinemaGuy45 wrote: »

Aspergers is a communication disorder at its heart and the post I have just quoted from you proves not only have you not read all of the thread you have not even read all of my posts in the thread.

How Ironic.:D

Well, at least a lot of people got very passionate about defending people on the spectrum.
So the OP definitely doing what you thought it would.