Late Late Show 2nd November 2018

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JeffKenna wrote:

I'm sure the thousands of elderly people locking their door tonight fearing for their safety agree with you.

Everyone in Ireland locks their door at night and puts their alarm on.

JeffKenna

hotmail.com wrote: »

Everyone in Ireland locks their door at night and puts their alarm on.

I think you're a WUM.

padd b1975

mloc123 wrote: »

Just watching the segment now... Ryan starts to lose it once Casey has a pop at Leo

Neil Young 1972.

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JeffKenna wrote:

I think you're a WUM.

You said people lock their doors at night. Pointing out the idiocy of your remark. I hope that's not too PC for you.

Gen.Zhukov

hotmail.com wrote: »

Measure of the sort of people that listen to Boylan. A minority of the nation interested in bashing Travellers. The rest worry about their daily concerns.

I've been noticing a trend around here with the traveller defenders on the various TC threads. A lot of the most ardent defenders are themselves from a minority group in the country.

This is a genuine question. Are people from minority groups more likely to defend people from other minority groups, irrespective?

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Gen.Zhukov wrote:

This is a genuine question. Are people from minority groups more likely to defend people from other minority groups, irrespective?

You'll notice I'm not really defending Travellers... I'm making the point that most people don't think or care about Travellers and have more important things to worry about.

The minority that do care and get obsessed with Travellers (sheds loads of them on this site) need to get a life.

NIMAN

hotmail.com wrote: »

Yes.

Travellers need extra help and support. It will give employment to more teachers and support staff. It will also read to greater integration with the settled folk. So I would have thought posters like you would favour this.

I'd be fully in favour of them getting extra help, if I thought they'd avail of it, to better themselves, their kids and their community.

But I fear they wouldn't.

mickdw

Nobody is obsessed, most just offering the opinion that the travellers need to be treated equally to all other citizens.
Give them same welfare, same housing support as everyone else. Make them pull their weight and abide by the law the same as everyone else also.
Put a percentage out on community schemes as settled people do.
Send animal welfare in where there is abuse, send social services in where children are abused or not attending school just like for settled people.
Sent revenue and welfare in where a traveller is identified selling stock from his van just like they rightly do for any settled person attempting to work under the radar... immediately audit fully if not legit, querying funding for new van etc. Cut welfare where there is obvious undeclared income.
That's just a start but no doubt this would be seen as picking on travellers.

Mrsmum

hotmail.com wrote: »

But it doesn't happen every day. You just confirmed my point.

Daily bread and butter issues of income, rent, housing, ill health, food prices, relationships etc etc. These are genuine daily concerns that people have.

But don't you understand that when people's money, tools and machinery are stolen, that does interfere with their ability to pay the mortgage and put food on the table. It also causes emotional stress which affects a person's physical or mental health and stress also affects relationships. So all the things you mention as important issues are impacted after all.
And surely if your elderly mother/father or grandparents had been attacked and beaten up thereby finishing their quality of life forever, it wouldn't be something you would be blasé about. Anyone that lives alone in the country lives in fear of that every night of the week.

MTBD

hotmail.com wrote: »

But it doesn't happen every day. You just confirmed my point.

Daily bread and butter issues of income, rent, housing, ill health, food prices, relationships etc etc. These are genuine daily concerns that people have.

This is such a bizarre way to answer a question. So if a woman doesn't get raped every day then she shouldn't be concerned by rapists. Or if a person doesn't fall sick every day then they shouldn't be concerned by the state of the healthcare system. Or if a person isn't the victim of fraudulent banking practices everyday then they shouldn't worry about how the financial regulator operates.

You are making one of the most bizarre and flawed arguments I've seen in many a moon. Well done.

MTBD

Mrsmum wrote: »

But don't you understand that when people's money, tools and machinery are stolen, that does interfere with their ability to pay the mortgage and put food on the table. It also causes emotional stress which affects a person's physical or mental health and stress also affects relationships. So all the things you mention as important issues are impacted after all.
And surely if your elderly mother/father or grandparents had been attacked and beaten up thereby finishing their quality of life forever, it wouldn't be something you would be blasé about. Anyone that lives alone in the country lives in fear of that every night of the week.

Ugh clearly you don't understand how crime works. Your grandmother needs to be beaten up and robbed every day for this to be an issue. Get with the program please.

Mrsmum

MTBD wrote: »

Ugh clearly you don't understand how crime works. Your grandmother needs to be beaten up and robbed every day for this to be an issue. Get with the program please.

Silly me thinking being beaten to a pulp once would be enough.

skooterblue2

hotmail.com wrote: »

Yes.

Travellers need extra help and support. It will give employment to more teachers and support staff. It will also read to greater integration with the settled folk. So I would have thought posters like you would favour this.

Travellers have loads of help and support, there are very poor results of completion and discipline on these courses

by any chance are you yourself working with Travellers or would you recommend to your boss that they take on a few for diversity sake?

lufties

skooterblue2 wrote: »

Travellers have loads of help and support, there are very poor results of completion and discipline on these courses

by any chance are you yourself working with Travellers or would you recommend to your boss that they take on a few for diversity sake?

You've addressed left hypocrisy right there in a nutshell. The bleating beards who cry 'integration' wouldn't in a million years live near a haulting site, nor would they work or socialise or work with travellers. Yet they have no problem taking the moral high ground on social media.

Defaulter1831

hotmail.com wrote: »

Several. So not daily which is what I said.

You're clutching at straws. Your whole argument is based on the notion that travellers don't effect the vast majority of peoples' lives.

If you've had nasty interactions several times, or once for that matter, that effects you daily in that you live in a state of anxiety/fear.

Defaulter1831

hotmail.com wrote: »

You'll notice I'm not really defending Travellers... I'm making the point that most people don't think or care about Travellers and have more important things to worry about.

The minority that do care and get obsessed with Travellers (sheds loads of them on this site) need to get a life.

Need to get a life..

Your comments are obnoxious. Tell elderly people beaten up by travellers to their face to get a life.

You obviously live a very sheltered, pampered existence.

fin12

hotmail.com wrote: »

You'll notice I'm not really defending Travellers... I'm making the point that most people don't think or care about Travellers and have more important things to worry about.

The minority that do care and get obsessed with Travellers (sheds loads of them on this site) need to get a life.

You seem to be very invested in and obsessed with defending them so to be honest you should take your own advise.

fin12

MTBD wrote: »

Ugh clearly you don't understand how crime works. Your grandmother needs to be beaten up and robbed every day for this to be an issue. Get with the program please.

No it doesn’t, have you ever heard of PTSD? Being attacked one day can affect you for the rest of your life.

SirChenjin

valoren wrote: »

Complaint sent.

The Late Late Show 2nd November 2018 broadcast featured a deeply unprofessional interview of former presidential candidate Peter Casey conducted by host Ryan Tubridy. While Casey’s remarks about the travelling community were met with an open debate in the weeks leading up to the election, the interview with Casey, which should have sought clarity on his opinion and remarks amounted to no more than an interrogation. Casey was not allowed the proper time to answer the sheer litany of questions relating to the topic posed to him in an amateurish scattergun style by Ryan Tubridy. To compound this, Casey’s political future was also poorly addressed and again insufficient time was allowed for him to articulate a coherent response from this deeply unprofessional interview. The addition of threats to Casey about losing control and scornfully belittling his politicial ambitons were an absolute disgrace.

Thanks for this, I will be complaining also and will use a similar format.

donkeykong5

SirChenjin wrote: »

valoren wrote: »

Complaint sent.

The Late Late Show 2nd November 2018 broadcast featured a deeply unprofessional interview of former presidential candidate Peter Casey conducted by host Ryan Tubridy. While Casey’s remarks about the travelling community were met with an open debate in the weeks leading up to the election, the interview with Casey, which should have sought clarity on his opinion and remarks amounted to no more than an interrogation. Casey was not allowed the proper time to answer the sheer litany of questions relating to the topic posed to him in an amateurish scattergun style by Ryan Tubridy. To compound this, Casey’s political future was also poorly addressed and again insufficient time was allowed for him to articulate a coherent response from this deeply unprofessional interview. The addition of threats to Casey about losing control and scornfully belittling his politicial ambitons were an absolute disgrace.

Thanks for this, I will be complaining also and will use a similar format.

Did you get an acknowledgement?

valoren

donkeykong5 wrote: »

Did you get an acknowledgement?

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RobertKK

Peter Casey posted this about this episode of the LLS...

https://twitter.com/caseypeterj/status/1062383638879318016?s=21

Glen Immal

Oh dear,
Thus ends any hope of a political career for this man. I had hoped for better.
He could have played his Cards smarter, as one comment says “very trumpish”. He’s just lost my support,

donkeykong5

Glen Immal wrote: »

Oh dear,
Thus ends any hope of a political career for this man. I had hoped for better.
He could have played his Cards smarter, as one comment says “very trumpish”. He’s just lost my support,

Still has my support. Guys a legend. Peter Casey for taoiseach. !

Bob Harris

Glen Immal wrote: »

Oh dear,
Thus ends any hope of a political career for this man. I had hoped for better.
He could have played his Cards smarter, as one comment says “very trumpish”. He’s just lost my support,

I don't think he ever had much hope. It was the novelty factor that gave him some prominence and that's exactly will keep any parties away from him. Locally though as an independent you never know.

It's good he built some bridges with the travellers anyway:pac:

Klonker

Did anyone get a response from their complaints to RTE? I got a response today, I might throw it up here later, but it basically defends the interview, they ignored Ryan's threatening of Peter though.

digzy

Klonker wrote: »

Did anyone get a response from their complaints to RTE? I got a response today, I might throw it up here later, but it basically defends the interview, they ignored Ryan's threatening of Peter though.

Got mine today. Full of legalese. Basically ryan did nothing wrong...

Ha Long Bay

Dear Mr xxxxxxxxx

Thank you for your email regarding The Late Late Show of 2nd November 2018 which has been passed on to me for reply.



You write about the interview with Mr. Peter Casey, the former Presidential candidate who was a guest on that date following his achievement of receiving over 340,000 votes in the Presidential election the week before.



For context it should be remembered that Mr. Casey’s comments regarding the Travelling community on October 17 lead to condemnation, not only by the Travelling community but also by the other candidates in the Presidential race and by a number of politicians of various hues, including An Taoiseach, Leo Varadkar.



Therefore, I believe that it was entirely correct that such comments should be examined and challenged by those directly affected and as such we conducted the interview with Mr. Casey on that basis.



To be clear, Mr. Casey was not “ambushed” by The Late Late Show. RTÉ refers to the Broadcasting Authority of Ireland (BAI) in its Code of Fairness, Objectivity and Impartiality in News and Current Affairs, Rule 4 which states:

“In the normal course of events, interviewees for news and current affairs content shall generally be made aware of the subject matter and the nature and format of their contribution, so that their agreement to participate constitutes informed consent.”



In this instance, Mr. Casey and his team were fully aware that his comments regarding Travellers would be a substantial part of the interview. He was fully informed in advance of the show not just that representatives would be in the audience but he was also given the names of the representatives of the Travelling community who would ask him questions.



Mr Casey agreed to proceed with the interview on that basis. His participation was fully compliant with the requirement for “informed consent.”



The interview itself was over 26 minutes long which is far longer than most segments on the Late Late Show, specifically to address the other issues Mr. Casey wanted to talk about, including his own background, his views on the Irish welfare state, his political ambition and his views on Fianna Fáil.



The interview was conducted in a robust manner with both Mr. Casey and Mr. Tubridy at times interrupting each other. This is sometimes the nature of live discussion and television debate.



Given the discussions with Mr. Casey and his team outlining the proposed interview and the amount of time given to him to address both the issues he wished to discuss and the more controversial comments which had caused controversy in the week leading up to the Presidential election, I am fully confident that the interview was entirely properly conducted.



RTÉ also draws attention to Rule 22 of the BAI Code of Fairness, Objectivity and Impartiality in News and Current Affairs:



“It is an important part of the role of a presenter of a current affairs programme to ensure the audience has access to a wide variety of views on the subject of the programme or item; to facilitate the expression of contributors’ opinions – sometimes by forceful questioning; and to reflect the views of those who cannot, or choose not to, participate in content.”



The interview was entirely compliant with these principles with the presenter correctly playing the role of ‘devil’s advocate’ in order to elucidate Mr Casey’s views on several issues.



While The Late Late Show is primarily an entertainment show it has a long history of covering topical news and current affairs issues that are of national importance.



The interview with Mr Casey was one such item and RTÉ is fully satisfied that it complied fully with all the relevant legislative and regulatory Codes.



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fin12

What a load of crap.

Mod note - please don't quote huge posts for short responses.