Incompetence and corruption rewarded - Nóirín O'Sullivan appointed to UN role

whisky_galore

https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2018/1031/1007845-noirin-osullivan/?fbclid=IwAR3jjk46M58hZXCHHFCdV8BigZkR_GA6iW9nKf9xzWK2-az7mCOoNWPjMDs


Jobs for the boys...and girls.

Odhinn

Fucking disgrace.

TheValeyard

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HAHAHAHHAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA

Quandary

No surprise whatsoever.

Sycamore Tree

I have seen it all now.

Ridiculous appointment.

Spanish Eyes

Wonder who her referees were!

SEPT 23 1989

And they say crime doesn't pay

KaneToad

What corruption and incompetence?? Do you know something that the tribunal don't?

Odhinn

KaneToad wrote: »

What corruption and incompetence?? Do you know something that the tribunal don't?

Do you think McCabe is the first and last victim of callinans malice? That he just started to act that way after four decades in the job? Her paths and callinans are linked, and theres no way she didn't know what kind of creature he was.

KaneToad

KaneToad wrote: »

What corruption and incompetence?? Do you know something that the tribunal don't?

There's always one...

Emmersonn

KaneToad wrote: »

What corruption and incompetence?? Do you know something that the tribunal don't?

There are none so blind as those who cannot see :P

Emmersonn

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Wonder who her referees were!

Suppose she supplied her own lube.

Odhinn

Emmersonn wrote: »

There are none so blind as those who cannot see :P

Or those who couldn't get missing mobile phones. Or get a decent percentage of Gardai they contacted to respond.

TheValeyard

Sponsored by Saudi Arabia

Guy:Incognito

Quandary wrote: »

No surprise whatsoever.

Was this not announced/leaked months ago? So obviously it's no surprise.

Odhinn

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Was this not announced/leaked months ago? So obviously it's no surprise.

No, that was another Job.

screamer

Sickening....... Just sickening

The Rape of Lucretia

Congrats to her.

Great to see an Irish person getting a prestigious international role like that. Irish people can be proud to be sending such a high calibre professional to be part of security on the world stage. Its quite a tribute and endorsement of the high standards we have in the Gardai.

KaneToad

Deleted User wrote: »

There's always one...

One what?

Do you dismiss the findings of Charleston? Fair enough if you do. I don't.

Former garda commissioner Nóirín O’Sullivan has been exonerated of mistreating garda whistleblower Maurice McCabe and of helping to orchestrate a smear campaign against him.

In a report which severely criticised her predecessor, Martin Callinan, and the former head of the Garda Press Office, Supt David Taylor, the Disclosures Tribunal chairman Mr Justice Peter Charleton found Ms O’Sullivan was not party to efforts to discredit Sgt McCabe by briefing the media and politicians against him.

KaneToad

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

Its quite a tribute and endorsement of the high standards we have in the Gardai.

The standards in the guards are many things. High is not one of them.

nice_guy80

Just like the job John Bruton got back in the day

Itssoeasy

Does UN stand for unmerciful neck ?

facehugger99

Sycamore Tree wrote: »

I have seen it all now.

Ridiculous appointment.

She was pretty much fully vindicated by a tribunal of inquiry - what are your reasons against the appointment?

Try to be specific.

archer22

Callinan must in line for the UN secretary general post.

Allinall

facehugger99 wrote: »

She was pretty much fully vindicated by a tribunal of inquiry - what are your reasons against the appointment?

Try to be specific.

None of the faux outraged will be specific, because they can’t .

Odyssey 2005

Safety and security...She can't even mind a phone...;)

Odyssey 2005

Safety and security...She can't even mind a phone...;)

Spanish Eyes

Odyssey 2005 wrote: »

Safety and security...She can't even mind a phone...;)

Now now......:P

KaneToad

KaneToad wrote: »

One what?

Do you dismiss the findings of Charleston? Fair enough if you do. I don't.

Former garda commissioner Nóirín O’Sullivan has been exonerated of mistreating garda whistleblower Maurice McCabe and of helping to orchestrate a smear campaign against him.

In a report which severely criticised her predecessor, Martin Callinan, and the former head of the Garda Press Office, Supt David Taylor, the Disclosures Tribunal chairman Mr Justice Peter Charleton found Ms O’Sullivan was not party to efforts to discredit Sgt McCabe by briefing the media and politicians against him.

I regard her exoneration as less than credible, considering her lofty position in the force. To suggest she wasn't privy to the character assassination of McCabe is bogus. Unless she had cotton stuffed in her ears and a blindfold over her eyes.

KaneToad

Deleted User wrote: »

I regard her exoneration as less than credible, considering her lofty position in the force. To suggest she wasn't privy to the character assassination of McCabe is bogus. Unless she had cotton stuffed in her ears and a blindfold over her eyes.

So you dispute the tribunal findings. Fair enough.

VonZan

KaneToad wrote: »

One what?

Do you dismiss the findings of Charleston? Fair enough if you do. I don't.

Former garda commissioner Nóirín O’Sullivan has been exonerated of mistreating garda whistleblower Maurice McCabe and of helping to orchestrate a smear campaign against him.

In a report which severely criticised her predecessor, Martin Callinan, and the former head of the Garda Press Office, Supt David Taylor, the Disclosures Tribunal chairman Mr Justice Peter Charleton found Ms O’Sullivan was not party to efforts to discredit Sgt McCabe by briefing the media and politicians against him.

The inquiry wasn't into her performance as Garda manager. Just because she was exonerated fully under the terms of reference doesn't excuse her and senior managers in An Garda Siochana being incompetent.

Graniteville

Odhinn wrote: »

Or those who couldn't get missing mobile phones. Or get a decent percentage of Gardai they contacted to respond.

The problem is too many people believe what is written in the media especially tabloids and they believe it without question.

If you checked the real story of the "missing" phones you'll find that phones were upgraded and the previous phones were just put aside somewhere and forgotten about.

So it's not as the tabloids would want you to believe that phones got lost everywhere, but obsolete phones were simply not kept stored away and there was no specific direction to keep them.

Tabloids never tell the real truth

facehugger99

Sour Lemonz wrote: »

i think she is a vile and vindictive cow who conspired with others to destroy a good mans reputation and family.

I love living in a world where people feelings are given as much weight as facts.

Wheeliebin30

Jesus why don’t we forget about the court of law and tribunals.

The people of boards have decided she is a baby eater.

KaneToad

Sour Lemonz wrote: »

... i think she is a vile and vindictive cow who conspired with others to destroy a good mans reputation and family...:

Your thoughts V's the findings of Judge & tribunal.
I'm probably going to go with the latter.

archer22

Noirin knew nothing bout nothing and TUSLA made an honest mistake.

Yeah that's easy to swallow alright :rolleyes:

Allinall

archer22 wrote: »

Noirin knew nothing bout nothing and TUSLA made an honest mistake.

Yeah that's easy to swallow alright :rolleyes:

Who ever said that, anywhere?

KaneToad

What do the conspiracy theorists think about McCabes post report statement:

Sgt McCabe says he accepts the finding in the tribunal report that there was no evidence that the former Garda Commissioner Noirin O'Sullivan and senior gardaí were engaged in a campaign against him at the O'Higgins Commission of Investigation.

"I accept that finding, but it's a pity that she didn't say that to me back at the O'Higgins Commission, or meet with me when this all arose. But I accept the finding."

KaneToad

archer22 wrote: »

...TUSLA made an honest mistake.

Yeah that's easy to swallow alright :rolleyes:

Do you think that TUSLA were in cahoots with the guards??

The tribunal comprehensively found otherwise.

professore

Fully exonerated rugby player ... career and reputation destroyed and pay all costs.
Fully exonerated Garda commissioner .... full pension, and cushy job in the UN.

KaneToad

KaneToad wrote: »

What do the conspiracy theorists think about McCabes post report statement:

Sgt McCabe says he accepts the finding in the tribunal report that there was no evidence that the former Garda Commissioner Noirin O'Sullivan and senior gardaí were engaged in a campaign against him at the O'Higgins Commission of Investigation.

"I accept that finding, but it's a pity that she didn't say that to me back at the O'Higgins Commission, or meet with me when this all arose. But I accept the finding."

Why was Noirin stand-offish?

Not sure what the big deal here is - isn't a promotion what happens every senior political appointee when they fail?

Perhaps Phil Hogan or Pee Flynn could throw light on this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ORNfD8e_sk

professore

archer22 wrote: »

Noirin knew nothing bout nothing and TUSLA made an honest mistake.

Yeah that's easy to swallow alright :rolleyes:

Someone committed character assassination here. There is NO WAY this was an honest mistake. If it was their vetting procedures for what constitutes a genuine report are appalling and should call into question ANY of their findings. The average Joe should be very afraid of false accusations if this was a "mistake".

KaneToad

Deleted User wrote: »

Why was Noirin stand-offish?

Who knows...
Why am I a pri(k on occasion...

Deleted User

Deleted User wrote: »

Not sure what the big deal here is - isn't a promotion what happens every senior political appointee when they fail?

Perhaps Phil Hogan or Pee Flynn could throw light on this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ORNfD8e_sk

An oldie but goodie, the golden circle remains intact.

professore

Graniteville wrote: »

The problem is too many people believe what is written in the media especially tabloids and they believe it without question.

If you checked the real story of the "missing" phones you'll find that phones were upgraded and the previous phones were just put aside somewhere and forgotten about.

So it's not as the tabloids would want you to believe that phones got lost everywhere, but obsolete phones were simply not kept stored away and there was no specific direction to keep them.

Tabloids never tell the real truth

They find it easy to believe because of the litany of coverups and scandals such as the McBreartys, the fake breath tests, the Ian Bailey case, everything around the church abuse scandals in which the Gardai actively colluded in the past etc etc. Really O'Sullivan was a "nothing to see here, business as usual" appointee. This new guy seems to be a different kettle of fish altogether. I for one welcome him.

KaneToad

professore wrote: »

Someone committed character assassination here. There is NO WAY this was an honest mistake. If it was their vetting procedures for what constitutes a genuine report are appalling and should call into question ANY of their findings. The average Joe should be very afraid of false accusations if this was a "mistake".

How many times do TUSLA make a balls of a file? I would wager that it's more often than you might think. A July 2018 article states that almost 5,000 children are waiting to be assigned a social worker by TUSLA. Sounds like an agency under stress. This is when corners are cut and mistakes made. The McCabe mistake has probably been replicated before and since...but the repercussions were not as far reaching.

Am puzzled as to why TUSLA would have it in for McCabe??

professore

KaneToad wrote: »

How many times do TUSLA make a balls of a file? I would wager that it's more often than you might think. A July 2018 article states that almost 5,000 children are waiting to be assigned a social worker by TUSLA. Sounds like an agency under stress. This is when corners are cut and mistakes made. The McCabe mistake has probably been replicated before and since...but the repercussions were not as far reaching.

Am puzzled as to why TUSLA would have it in for McCabe??

Do I have to spell it out? A senior garda figure - or someone acting under instruction from the figure - goes to TUSLA and says "Here is a report of a known child abuser. Take action".

If they are so under stress it seems they were able to react very fast to this one particular case. Why was that, I wonder?

Who made the report?

crusier

We love to see people taken down from high places in Ireland, right or wrong. She was exonerated after being forced out of her job unnecessarily. Someone else has recognised that there's a top class candidate available and have snapped her up. We now have a commissioner who's personal security alone over the next 5 years is estimated at 1.7 million on top of the new wage rise for the job. He may well be what's needed but it seems we lost a perfectly good commissioner to take the heat of a government.

Sycamore Tree

What kind of naïve simpletons defend O'Sullivan?

She was sitting right beside Callinan when he said whistleblowers were disgusting. I don't recall her objecting.

She also lost a number of mobile phones at a crucial time

Opposition TDs last night demanded an explanation from Ms O'Sullivan as to how crucial evidence sought by the Disclosures Tribunal appears to be no longer in existence.

Sources confirmed that Ms O'Sullivan has been unable to furnish Mr Justice Peter Charleton with a smartphone she used since her appointment. A mobile phone device belonging to former Garda commissioner Martin Callinan is also missing.

I believe she lost or wiped 5 phones in total.

professore

crusier wrote: »

Someone else has recognised that there's a top class candidate available and have snapped her up.

What did she do to get to the root of the smear campaign against McCabe? Which Gardai were fired? Singled out?