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Taylor

  • 21-10-2018 1:24am
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    Its coming up shortly. Anyone watching?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 562 ✭✭✭fran38


    According to the Indo's live blog, it's on at 4am. Feck that!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 145 ✭✭BoneIdol


    Aldi selling Galahad Lagar has ruined this fight for me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,620 ✭✭✭bassy


    BoneIdol wrote: »
    Aldi selling Galahad Lagar has ruined this fight for me.

    burp..............................................................


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,458 ✭✭✭weemcd


    BoneIdol wrote: »
    Aldi selling Galahad Lagar has ruined this fight for me.

    https://twitter.com/Rubberbandits/status/1043600536531095552?s=19

    I may have ruined it even more for you now...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57,824 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Didn’t see Katie’s fight but heard it was a real bore fest...

    Conlan on against another nobody. Chased the guy around bd for 8 rds...this dire level of opposition is making for really poor fights...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,438 ✭✭✭megadodge


    walshb wrote: »
    Didn’t see Katie’s fight but heard it was a real bore fest...

    Conlan on against another nobody. Chased the guy around bd for 8 rds...this dire level of opposition is making for really poor fights...

    It's now official - you are the best judge in the whole world..... of fights you haven't actually seen!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,050 ✭✭✭✭The Talking Bread


    Anyone know what sort of prize money Taylor is earning over there? Sponsorships etc? It is a pity she isn't getting the coverage over here that her status merits. RTE really could have a market for a bit of boxing coverage, even a weekly highlights show.

    I know MTK have disassociated themselves with RTE and Irish media in general but there are plenty more avenues and they could still speak about such bouts


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,181 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside



    I know MTK have disassociated themselves with RTE and Irish media in general but there are plenty more avenues and they could still speak about such bouts

    Katie has nothing to do with MTK, you might be confusing her with her dad ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,050 ✭✭✭✭The Talking Bread


    Katie has nothing to do with MTK, you might be confusing her with her dad ;)

    I know. If you read my post I was speaking about boxing coverage in general. It is not as if Taylor fights every other week but there are plenty of Irish boxers out there that would benefit from coverage and plenty of people who enjoy the spiort that an hour (at the very least) a week show would be justified

    I am fully aware that the last management company Taylor would want to have anything to do with now is MTK


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 146 ✭✭kneejerk


    Fight was on sky sports. Co main event. Obviously Saunders being removed damaged the attractiveness of the card for a UK audience.

    I actually thought the fight was enjoyable and one of the better fights on the card.

    It was complete domination by Taylor. Wish the rounds were upped to 3 min's. Serrano was lucky to make it to the judges card. If the ref from Mick Conlons fight was in charge then it would have been a TKO! 😂

    That clown that coaches the Serrano's trash talked through out and at the end was in Taylor's face calling for a fight with Amanda next. I was half expecting the ring side Conor McGregor to jump in to confront him!!

    Will be a good fight for Taylor if it happens next.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,915 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    walshb wrote: »
    Didn’t see Katie’s fight but heard it was a real bore fest...

    Conlan on against another nobody. Chased the guy around bd for 8 rds...this dire level of opposition is making for really poor fights...

    Sure that wasn't her interview?;)

    Taylor is now like McGregor for me. No longer any interest in their fights, and tend to find out the next day how they went.

    Let's be honest, not much interest in the world for women's boxing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57,824 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    megadodge wrote: »
    It's now official - you are the best judge in the whole world..... of fights you haven't actually seen!

    It’s also official that you can’t read too well...

    I “heard” it was a real bore fest. Just saying what I heard..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,050 ✭✭✭✭The Talking Bread


    NIMAN wrote: »
    Sure that wasn't her interview?;)

    Taylor is now like McGregor for me. No longer any interest in their fights, and tend to find out the next day how they went.

    Let's be honest, not much interest in the world for women's boxing.

    Christ I couldn't think of a worse analogy! McGregor's pre fight and post fight publicity is smeared in our faces, McGregor still attracts millions and millions of viewers, increasing by more circus like the whole thing is getting, who buy into the charade and McGregor. Sadly it's very difficult to avoid McGregor.
    You would want to be living under a rock!

    Taylor gets few and far between media coverage over here, considering her status. Yes, women's boxing is not in anyway a glamorous sport for vast majority but I guess most of her matches are percived almost foregone conclusions to many who just check the result or, more likely, happen to stumble across the result by accident!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,181 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    Just watched it. Pretty boring fight, Serrano refused to engage throughout. The highlight was probably the Puerto Rican National anthem.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,218 ✭✭✭✭Tom Mann Centuria


    Katie Taylor v Delfine Persoon would be a good fight, or Chantelle Cameron. Some good fighters at their weight.

    Oh well, give me an easy life and a peaceful death.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,181 ✭✭✭✭normanoffside


    Katie Taylor v Delfine Persoon would be a good fight, or Chantelle Cameron. Some good fighters at their weight.

    Eddie never mention Persoon but it's the obvious fight, She's clearly the #1 Female lightweight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,643 ✭✭✭SHOVELLER


    Downloaded the DAZN app as they have a month's free trial and after its a tenner a month.

    First fight I saw was Quigg's very quick demolition then tuned in for Kid Galahad's tedious win. He spent the first half of the fight standing on his opponent's foot! This made me miss Conlan's fight on ESPN! Dont think he's good enough to be in with Frampton. Maybe Warrington.

    Although Tennyson was outclassed by a very slick Farmer thought the stoppage was a wee bit soon. But no doubting the gulf in class and the experience will stand to Tennyson.

    Katie totally dominated her bout so much so she dropped her hands and beckoned her opponent in the seventh. Never saw her do that before but Sugar Ray was enamoured with this! She was on the front foot from the off and was virtually untouched throughout. I wouldnt say it was a borefest more complete domination and certainly a message to the other Serrano. At the end Serrano's husband/coach sprang into the ring shouting and pointing at Katie. Apparently he was saying during the fight that she had picked the weaker Serrano. What a piece of ****.

    According to the commentators pre fight Serrano's purse was $40,000 so one can safely assume that Katie's was in the six figures as she was the co feature.

    It was past midnight here by the time the Andrade fight started so kudos to anyone at home who watched live.
    Impressed with DAZN as they showed highlights from all the other bouts and I wouldnt discount Hearns' comments that PPV is dying.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,023 ✭✭✭✭Joe_ Public


    Katie got 100k in dollars for the fight. People are entitled to their view on women’s boxing and its potential, but remember just 2 years ago in the wake of Rio, when going pro was being seriously mooted, boards like this one were flooded with posts saying she’d be stupid to go pro, no money or interest in women’s boxing etc

    So now she is making, at a guess, not less than 500k a year and with the likes of Estelle Mossely and others joining her women’s pro boxing is slowly and gradually becoming a better and more sustainable entity.

    I’ll never get tired of championing Katie Taylor on here for what she did for amateur boxing and now what she is doing for the pro game. Her achievements cannot be underplayed. I’m not sure women’s boxing would even be an Olympic sport if it wasn’t for her, certainly wouldn’t have been as early as 2012 anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57,824 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    She’s a national treasure, is Katie!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,023 ✭✭✭✭Joe_ Public


    walshb wrote: »
    She’s a national treasure, is Katie!

    Not enough of one but that’s just my opinion.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57,824 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Watched the fight. If you could call it that. Katie faced someone who didn’t want to be there...

    Borefest? Don’t know.....cannot really describe it. A non fight, that’s for sure..

    Just a question. Does anyone else see what I see, that being that Katie seems to miss about 80 percent of her punches. It’s kind of like they just fade away into nothing. Either that or them being so pitter patter they don’t show up to me as landing clean..?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57,824 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Anyone see the Nikittin fight? Looks a right hardy bastid...

    Him and Conlan need to get the rematch on. Looking at both so far I think the Russian would be too strong.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,023 ✭✭✭✭Joe_ Public


    walshb wrote: »
    Watched the fight. If you could call it that. Katie faced someone who didn’t want to be there...

    Borefest? Don’t know.....cannot really describe it. A non fight, that’s for sure..

    Just a question. Does anyone else see what I see, that being that Katie seems to miss about 80 percent of her punches. It’s kind of like they just fade away into nothing. Either that or them being so pitter patter they don’t show up to me as landing clean..?

    First 2 pars no disagreement anyway. She was facing an opponent whose sole ambition was to stand up for 10 rounds and who was at least good enough to achieve that.

    Not so sure about the rest. I think it’s being super critical. There were plenty of accurate punches and good combinations that I saw. Serrano was probably as good as Taylor has faced yet, in terms of how compact she was and how little a target she presented, as much as there was no threat offensively.

    I’d wait to judge her against a better fighter where there’s a chance of a more open contest and she might even get to be the counter puncher. 3 minute rounds would help her but unfortunately don’t see that on the horizon just yet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57,824 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Not so sure about the rest. I think it’s being super critical. There were plenty of accurate punches and good combinations that I saw. Serrano was probably as good as Taylor has faced yet, in terms of how compact she was and how little a target she presented, as much as there was no threat offensively.

    I’d wait to judge her against a better fighter where there’s a chance of a more open contest and she might even get to be the counter puncher. 3 minute rounds would help her but unfortunately don’t see that on the horizon just yet.

    I wasn't trying to be super-critical. It was more an observation-question. She won so comfortably. Just always seems like her shots have next to no impact or substance on them. Like they miss, fall short or have very little impact.

    I'd like to see her sit down a bit more and plant the shots a little better. Less on volume and more on substance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,946 ✭✭✭Morrison J


    walshb wrote: »
    Anyone see the Nikittin fight? Looks a right hardy bastid...

    Him and Conlan need to get the rematch on. Looking at both so far I think the Russian would be too strong.

    Thought Nikitin looked awful poor. Just trudging forward, getting hit loads and doesn't look to have much power himself. Be easy work for Conlan. I get why they want to build that fight with the story behind it but I've little interest in the fight itself. Levels between them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57,824 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Morrison J wrote: »
    Thought Nikitin looked awful poor. Just trudging forward, getting hit loads and doesn't look to have much power himself. Be easy work for Conlan. I get why they want to build that fight with the story behind it but I've little interest in the fight itself. Levels between them.

    Not sure how you can say levels between them. Neither have faced any remote kind of test yet. We have no idea what MC is like as a pro until he faces someone half decent. He himself is getting fed up judging by his recent comments..

    Easy work for Conlan? May be, but to say it based off MCs pro journey and pro showings to date is odd.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,946 ✭✭✭Morrison J


    walshb wrote: »
    Not sure how you can say levels between them. Neither have faced any remote kind of test yet. We have no idea what MC is like as a pro until he faces someone half decent. He himself is getting fed up judging by his recent comments..

    Easy work for Conlan? May be, but to say it based off MCs pro journey and pro showings to date is odd.

    Well there was clearly levels between them in the amateurs and seeing Nikitin getting tagged, marked up and lose a round to a total journeyman would have me feeling pretty confident there'll be levels between them in the pros too. Nikitin just isn't very good. Bit of a plodder.

    Based on everything we've seen and know of the two I'd say picking the Russian to win would be better described as odd. I'm not sure what you're seeing there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,438 ✭✭✭megadodge


    Morrison J wrote: »
    Well there was clearly levels between them in the amateurs and seeing Nikitin getting tagged, marked up and lose a round to a total journeyman would have me feeling pretty confident there'll be levels between them in the pros too. Nikitin just isn't very good. Bit of a plodder.

    Based on everything we've seen and know of the two I'd say picking the Russian to win would be better described as odd. I'm not sure what you're seeing there.

    Just saw both fights and 100% agree with you.

    Unless something drastic changes I can't see Conlan losing that one. Nikitin is only two fights in, so maybe it's too early to judge, but he looks very one-dimensional, not too hard to hit and quite wild at times.

    Conlan is a far more rounded boxer with lots more weapons in his arsenal and is improving steadily. He's being brought along at the right pace by people who really know what they're doing and has an excellent coach. I was impressed with his performance at the weekend, despite the opponent's shiftyness.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,946 ✭✭✭Morrison J


    megadodge wrote: »
    Just saw both fights and 100% agree with you.

    Unless something drastic changes I can't see Conlan losing that one. Nikitin is only two fights in, so maybe it's too early to judge, but he looks very one-dimensional, not too hard to hit and quite wild at times.

    Conlan is a far more rounded boxer with lots more weapons in his arsenal and is improving steadily. He's being brought along at the right pace by people who really know what they're doing and has an excellent coach. I was impressed with his performance at the weekend, despite the opponent's shiftyness.

    Yeah that was probably the most impressed I've been with Conlan so far to be honest. Can definitely see the Booth style gradually being implemented. Think it's fair to say it's been an underwhelming enough start to his pro career performances wise but I do think he'll start to look better as he goes up a level. All his opponents are on their bikes circuling around the ring from the bell. Very difficult to sustain any real quality offense going against that. Nikitin should suit him to a tee I'd imagine with his reckless come forward style.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57,824 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Morrison J wrote: »
    Well there was clearly levels between them in the amateurs and seeing Nikitin getting tagged, marked up and lose a round to a total journeyman would have me feeling pretty confident there'll be levels between them in the pros too. Nikitin just isn't very good. Bit of a plodder.

    Based on everything we've seen and know of the two I'd say picking the Russian to win would be better described as odd. I'm not sure what you're seeing there.

    1-1 in the amateurs. Not clear at all..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,946 ✭✭✭Morrison J


    walshb wrote: »
    1-1 in the amateurs. Not clear at all..

    Between the two? I think anyone with a pair of working eyes has it 2-0 Conlan. Should be 1-0 really. Chatchai Butdee clearly beat Nikitin in the round before the Conlan fight too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57,824 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Morrison J wrote: »
    Between the two? I think anyone with a pair of working eyes has it 2-0 Conlan. Should be 1-0 really. Chatchai Butdee clearly beat Nikitin in the round before the Conlan fight too.

    Sorry, it's officially 2-0 to Nikitin.

    The 2013 world's you could not argue with that decision. It was a closely fought fight.

    Rio, well of course you could argue that. So let's say it's 1-1 then. I had MC winning the Rio fight, albeit a closer fight than many would have you believe.

    Anyway, neither man has yet to show their real pro potential.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,946 ✭✭✭Morrison J


    walshb wrote: »
    Sorry, it's officially 2-0 to Nikitin.

    The 2013 world's you could not argue with that decision. It was a closely fought fight.

    Rio, well of course you could argue that. So let's say it's 1-1 then. I had MC winning the Rio fight, albeit a closer fight than many would have you believe.

    Anyway, neither man has yet to show their real pro potential.

    Can't say I've actually seen the 2013 Worlds fight I'd say the 2016 fight gives a better reflection of where both fighters are though and Conlan clearly dominated that. Conlan unarguably had the better amateur career and has the better pedigree. Just not sure what would make one pick Nikitin if they were to fight in the next few months. Don't see how he'd pose Conlan any major problems to be honest.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57,824 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Morrison J wrote: »
    Can't say I've actually seen the 2013 Worlds fight I'd say the 2016 fight gives a better reflection of where both fighters are though and Conlan clearly dominated that. Conlan unarguably had the better amateur career and has the better pedigree. Just not sure what would make one pick Nikitin if they were to fight in the next few months. Don't see how he'd pose Conlan any major problems to be honest.

    Not trying to bring up old wounds, but MC was hit a fair bit in Rio. He won, but he did not dominate.

    Nikitin would easily be the best pro fighter MC Has faced. That's all I need to know. MC is progressing slowly. Look at his style and his strengths and weaknesses. Both their amateur fights is all I have to go on as far as how they match up, and in both Nikitin landed fairly easily on MC.

    This is the pro game, where stamina and chin and work-rate (against someone quite decent) etc are all involved. I have no idea how MC is in these areas until it's put up to him.

    What will he be like in close in the later rds? Will he have the strength and stamina for a hard pace in the later rds etc etc?

    I think it's fair to say that MC won't easily box the ears off Nikitin, and I think it's fair to say that Nikitin will bring heat and offence and will catch MC a fair bit...

    MC is not Floyd Mayweather, and nor is he some big power punching threat that ends fights easily. This leads me to believe that he will be made really work and earn wins against quality opposition who can put it up to him.

    I am not saying Nikitin is a great pro, but does he need to be to be even competitive against MC?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    Katie got 100k in dollars for the fight. People are entitled to their view on women’s boxing and its potential, but remember just 2 years ago in the wake of Rio, when going pro was being seriously mooted, boards like this one were flooded with posts saying she’d be stupid to go pro, no money or interest in women’s boxing etc

    So now she is making, at a guess, not less than 500k a year and with the likes of Estelle Mossely and others joining her women’s pro boxing is slowly and gradually becoming a better and more sustainable entity.

    I’ll never get tired of championing Katie Taylor on here for what she did for amateur boxing and now what she is doing for the pro game. Her achievements cannot be underplayed. I’m not sure women’s boxing would even be an Olympic sport if it wasn’t for her, certainly wouldn’t have been as early as 2012 anyway.

    Is it a sustainable entity though? Would it fly as a stand alone?

    Seems to me like the men's game subsidises it.

    I couldn't see any major promoter ever putting on an all female card.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,946 ✭✭✭Morrison J


    walshb wrote: »
    Not trying to bring up old wounds, but MC was hit a fair bit in Rio. He won, but he did not dominate.

    Nikitin would easily be the best pro fighter MC Has faced. That's all I need to know. MC is progressing slowly. Look at his style and his strengths and weaknesses. Both their amateur fights is all I have to go on as far as how they match up, and in both Nikitin landed fairly easily on MC.

    This is the pro game, where stamina and chin and work-rate (against someone quite decent) etc are all involved. I have no idea how MC is in these areas until it's put up to him.

    What will he be like in close in the later rds? Will he have the strength and stamina for a hard pace in the later rds etc etc?

    I think it's fair to say that MC won't easily box the ears off Nikitin, and I think it's fair to say that Nikitin will bring heat and offence and will catch MC a fair bit...

    MC is not Floyd Mayweather, and nor is he some big power punching threat that ends fights easily. This leads me to believe that he will be made really work and earn wins against quality opposition who can put it up to him.

    I am not saying Nikitin is a great pro, but does he need to be to be even competitive against MC?

    So you're picking Nikitin because you haven't seen Conlan's stamina, chin or work-rate and are worried about how he'd do in the latter rounds? You've seen even less of those things out of Nikitin, he's only done two six rounders.

    You're taking a very pro-Nikitin stance here. You say Nikitin landed a lot on Conlan. Nikitin couldn't even make the Olympic semi final because Conlan had his face so mangled from landing on him in the quarters.

    Get the feeling you'd be absolutely crucifying Conlan if he lost a round to a journeyman like Nikitin did at the weekend yet your main takeaway from that fight is that he'd be too strong for Conlan.

    We'll see, can't say I'm in any way close to nervous about that fight though. Far bigger fish to fry for Conlan.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,023 ✭✭✭✭Joe_ Public


    Is it a sustainable entity though? Would it fly as a stand alone?

    Seems to me like the men's game subsidises it.

    I couldn't see any major promoter ever putting on an all female card.

    It’s a fair question and I’m no sort of expert. But I would point out that women pro boxers have been around for decades and they’ll be around for decades more. How quickly or substantially it develops is another question, don’t honestly know is the answer.

    I believe Katie Taylor could headline a card at the Stadium right now. It mightn’t be hugely mouthwatering but it is progress at least.

    Big thing is the Olympics which is going to feed into it, as with the men. We’ve only had 2 cycles and I think most who watch would agree there was no comparison in quality between 2012 and 2016 and tokyo, assuming boxing makes it, should be better again.

    I’d compare it to horse racing. Up to very recently lots held the view that women couldn’t ride horses properly, let alone compete with men. Many still do. Yet this year a female is/was leading the Irish jump jockeys championship and same was happening on the flat in England. People talk about whether these will or can happen while, all the time, they are happening right under their noses. Just takes them time to adjust to the reality.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57,824 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Morrison J wrote: »
    So you're picking Nikitin because you haven't seen Conlan's stamina, chin or work-rate and are worried about how he'd do in the latter rounds? You've seen even less of those things out of Nikitin, he's only done two six rounders.

    You're taking a very pro-Nikitin stance here. You say Nikitin landed a lot on Conlan. Nikitin couldn't even make the Olympic semi final because Conlan had his face so mangled from landing on him in the quarters.

    Get the feeling you'd be absolutely crucifying Conlan if he lost a round to a journeyman like Nikitin did at the weekend yet your main takeaway from that fight is that he'd be too strong for Conlan.

    We'll see, can't say I'm in any way close to nervous about that fight though. Far bigger fish to fry for Conlan.

    Nikitin did land a lot in their two amateur bouts.

    BTW, the injury (or the main one/original head injury) that Nikitin sustained in Rio was from the fight before Conlan...

    Let's not make out that MC was busting him up. Many many shots were arms, gloves and glancing; that being for both men.

    I think he may be too strong in the pros for MC. I can't know this until they meet, of course.

    I don't see how you think MC makes easy work of him. I would understand this if MC had a few pro bouts that could lead you to this line of thinking. To date MC has fought desperately poor opposition, and in these bouts it's next to impossible to truly assess his pro pedigree, due to that opposition being so weak.

    You say I am taking a very pro Nikitin stance? Simply because I think he could be a real match for MC in the pros, and possibly beat him?

    What about your way OTT stance on MC and his pro journey? Remember, the one you said would be a superstar before he even entered the pro ring? And this "bigger fish to fry." As if Nikitin is just beneath MC as regards an opponent....

    After all that went on, Nikitin should be D number 1 opponent for MC. MC should be relishing the chance to avenge the Rio loss....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57,824 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    I think Kiko is still active at FW. He'd be a nice match for Conlan now.....he's top 15 or 20, and MC is calling for a top 10-15..

    He'd a be a big step up for MC, even factoring in that he's past his best days.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,895 ✭✭✭Sunny Disposition


    The Taylor fight was v poor, her opponent didn’t come to fight. Fair play to Katie though, lot of money made since 2016.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,946 ✭✭✭Morrison J


    walshb wrote: »

    What about your way OTT stance on MC and his pro journey? Remember, the one you said would be a superstar before he even entered the pro ring? And this "bigger fish to fry." As if Nikitin is just beneath MC as regards an opponent....

    After all that went on, Nikitin should be D number 1 opponent for MC. MC should be relishing the chance to avenge the Rio loss....

    Nikitin is beneath Conlan thats pretty clear. Top Rank signed him for one reason only and thats to feed him to Mick.

    It's a great fight for Mick on his way becoming a star. Easy sell to the casual fan and a fight Mick will look good in. Not a fight that will prove much whether he can become a world champion etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57,824 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Morrison J wrote: »
    Nikitin is beneath Conlan thats pretty clear. Top Rank signed him for one reason only and thats to feed him to Mick.

    It's a great fight for Mick on his way becoming a star. Easy sell to the casual fan and a fight Mick will look good in. Not a fight that will prove much whether he can become a world champion etc.

    I think it would be a big sell..

    You come across way too confident as regards Mick and what he will do and achieve as a pro..

    Not saying he won't, but to date what exactly are you seeing that would lead you to be so clear and confident?

    I'll start taking real notice when MC steps up a couple of levels and fights some decent and quality opposition.

    Seriously, we don't even know yet if he can take a decent crack on the chin....

    Do you think Kiko would be a good step up and fight for him? I think it would. Assuming Kiko has something to give, at least he'd bring real pressure and at least he can punch back....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57,824 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    pac_man wrote: »
    Kiko is fighting for a European title this weekend. I remember you saying not long ago that he should be fighting Donaire soon. It's too early for both of them fights. Conlan is far from the finished article and it's pretty evident from what we've seen so far that it's going to take time.

    I don't really get this....time for what? He's not that young. Is something going to change all that much whereby you say "now he's ready?"

    BTW, not saying he should be in against the best in the world right now....but someone in the top 20 at least in the next few fights....

    Kiko is NOT the best, nor is Donaire, who is a blown up and past his best bantam.....

    Both would be ideal tests for Conlan in the next 6 months. I mean, if he still is not the "finished article," whatever that means for him by then, and is not up to the likes of a Kiko or Donaire?.....

    At FW Donaire is a round 10-15 best, and Kiko probably close to this.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57,824 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Well, the only thing that would “worry” me now against both theses matches would be MCs chin. If it is sturdy, or proves to be, I would back him to beat both (and possibly beat both decisively) if they fought..nothing else would really concern me. He has the moves, the versatility and the offensive skills and range to be able to win...


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 63 ✭✭Hhugedick


    walshb wrote: »
    Well, the only thing that would “worry” me now against both theses matches would be MCs chin. If it is sturdy, or proves to be, I would back him to beat both (and possibly beat both decisively) if they fought..nothing else would really concern me. He has the moves, the versatility and the offensive skills and range to be able to win...

    It'd clear from your last day on this thread that your clearly a troll man. I would bet a fair few Pound that your boxing knowledge is limited, and your knowledge of mick conlan is zero. You got bites on your trolling so just give it a rest at this stage and move on. Some people do like to genuinely discuss our Irish fighters with other boxing fans on this site. We don't need to be invaded with trolls on our discussions. Goodbye


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 63 ✭✭Hhugedick


    pac_man wrote: »
    Can you contribute to the discussion other than accusing a poster of trolling?

    Are you asking me not to call out a troll? Am sick of them. You can't have a discussion without one of them interrupting. Good enough answer for you?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 57,824 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    pac_man wrote: »
    Can you contribute to the discussion other than accusing a poster of trolling?

    He’s slating me on quite a pro MC post...🤔

    He has two posts on the forum..not a single contribution..


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 63 ✭✭Hhugedick


    walshb wrote: »
    He’s slating me on quite a pro MC post...🀔

    He has two posts on the forum..not a single contribution..

    What you mean is I won't engage with you, I copped your carry on fairly quickly. Zero boxing knowledge and complete troll.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 63 ✭✭Hhugedick


    pac_man wrote: »
    I'm asking you to attack the post, not the poster. If you suspect that someone is trolling(which I'm failing to see from the above btw!), there's a protocol in place in which you use the report button.

    Who are you PAC man?? Are you the garda?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 63 ✭✭Hhugedick


    pac_man wrote: »
    I'm asking you to attack the post, not the poster. If you suspect that someone is trolling(which I'm failing to see from the above btw!), there's a protocol in place in which you use the report button.

    Who are you PAC man?? Are you the garda?


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