Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV

Gadge

Kramer wrote: »

Applegreen? Yes, free for now, but you'd be upsetting the locals charging their Leafs there. The durty, durty looks I got there one day for having the temerity to pull up in a Tesla, for my free charge .

Mrs. K was instructed the Tesla chargers were in the other area of the carpark :eek:.

I'd say if the Outlander suits you, size wise & fits your budget, with home/work charging, go for it.

Do test drive if possible first though, preferably overnight if you can.

Best of luck :pac:.

Applegeen that's right! Eff the locals 🙂

KCross

Gadge wrote: »

Thanks a million for your input... Is it common for a garage to give a loan in the hope of a sale?

Depends on the garage. If they know you are serious about buying it then they shouldnt have an issue with it.

If you smash it you own it. It will be your insurance on the line so the garage dont have anything to lose and a sale to gain.

kanuseeme

25 minutes will get you from 30% (never really goes bellow 30%) to 80% on a DC charger, the Outlander will stop at 80%,

if you arrive at 75% and plug in, it will stop at 80% you will need to go back to the charger and start it again.

The last 20 % will take 30 minutes or so.

Its a good idea to test drive one, personally I think they look dated inside

biko

I have one and love it.
The navigation system is crap so don't think you'll be able to use that

Gadge

kanuseeme wrote: »

25 minutes will get you from 30% (never really goes bellow 30%) to 80% on a DC charger, the Outlander will stop at 80%,

if you arrive at 75% and plug in, it will stop at 80% you will need to go back to the charger and start it again.

The last 20 % will take 30 minutes or so.

Its a good idea to test drive one, personally I think they look dated inside

I know you're talking in general terms, but the charger I'll be using is 20.5 miles from home and 17.5 miles from work so there is a good bit of charging to be got from stopping there

Gadge

biko wrote: »

I have one and love it.
The navigation system is crap so don't think you'll be able to use that

I have seen that, and you lose a lot of functionality if you swap out the head unit so I guess I'd have to be investing in a decent phone holder 😃

ELM327

biko wrote: »

I have one and love it.
The navigation system is crap so don't think you'll be able to use that

Does it not have apple carplay?

biko

As noted by ^^^ you can get around the bad built-in nav with a phone.

TrueDub

ELM327 wrote: »

Does it not have apple carplay?

Only the 2018 model and above, I think. I recently bought a 2017 and it doesn't have it. I'd love to get it retro-fitted.

Grumpypants

It will cost you about a fiver in petrol and €2 in electricity a day. If you are paying 15 a day now on petrol that's €7 a day you claw back.

Also consider car tax drops to €170.

I was putting €70 a week into an A4 and doing an 75km round trip a day.

When I worked out the savings over 5 years I was going to claw back almost 3k on tax and about 13k on petrol. The car cost me €16,500.

My insurance also dropped from 600-700 to the minimum of €280. But I think that might have been me getting old

KCross

Kramer wrote: »

Applegreen? Yes, free for now,

What Applegreen is that? Are they eCars owned? Why are they free?

Gadge wrote: »

I know you're talking in general terms, but the charger I'll be using is 20.5 miles from home and 17.5 miles from work so there is a good bit of charging to be got from stopping there

I know you said those chargers are free right now but dont bank on that staying that way.

You'll have to balance the cost of that DC charge against the cost of paying for the little bit of petrol you'd burn in its place. There might not be much in it. You'll need to do the math on it.

Tenshot

Gadge wrote: »

I have seen that, and you lose a lot of functionality if you swap out the head unit so I guess I'd have to be investing in a decent phone holder ��

I have the Brodit ProClip on the right door pillar, and it works very well. Not cheap, but I can recommend it unreservedly. You pair it with a Brodit phone mount specific to your phone, so if you switch phones, you only have to replace that section. It's straightforward to install and a convenient location for navigation - I like the ability to rotate it from portrait to landscape mode as well.

My wife's car has the Brodit clip that attaches to the ventilation slots. It's good too but unless you adjust it just right, it has a tendency to unclip when docking the phone. The door pillar version is less obtrusive and rock solid.

Kramer

KCross wrote: »

What Applegreen is that? Trade secret.....

Birdhill, M7.

Are they eCars owned? Nope.
Why are they free? Dunno. In fairness, I'm a good customer, I always stop for free electricity when passing :pac:

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jayzee

Very interested in the Outlander PHEV - most driving is city - about 10km each way to work. Then some local rin arounds in the evenings / weekends.
We live in a terrace house so charging may be an issue, does anyone have experience of this or solutions.
How often would it need to be charged, if not often then this issue would go away.

iniall

jayzee wrote: »

Very interested in the Outlander PHEV - most driving is city - about 10km each way to work. Then some local rin arounds in the evenings / weekends.
We live in a terrace house so charging may be an issue, does anyone have experience of this or solutions.
How often would it need to be charged, if not often then this issue would go away.

I charge mine almost every day. Sometimes more than once a day. It’s only got an all-electric range of 45km, which gets me to work (where I can charge) and home again (where I charge overnight). Weekends with kids training, etc, it doesn’t always make it on the battery. If you can’t charge at home or work, I wouldn’t even consider the Outlander. Or any plug-in hybrid because you need to be charging all the time or else you’ll spend all your time driving on petrol and then what’s the point...?

CoBo55

iniall wrote: »

I charge mine almost every day. Sometimes more than once a day. It’s only got an all-electric range of 45km, which gets me to work (where I can charge) and home again (where I charge overnight). Weekends with kids training, etc, it doesn’t always make it on the battery. If you can’t charge at home or work, I wouldn’t even consider the Outlander. Or any plug-in hybrid because you need to be charging all the time or else you’ll spend all your time driving on petrol and then what’s the point...?

You should have gotten a proper ev.

kanuseeme

CoBo55 wrote: »

You should have gotten a proper ev.

What would recommend as a proper EV?:D:D:D

Kramer

CoBo55 wrote: »

You should have gotten a proper ev.

kanuseeme wrote: »

What would recommend as a proper EV?:D:D:D

A gen 1 Leaf I bet .

Kramer

iniall wrote: »

I charge mine almost every day. Sometimes more than once a day. It’s only got an all-electric range of 45km, which gets me to work (where I can charge) and home again (where I charge overnight). Weekends with kids training, etc, it doesn’t always make it on the battery

Absolutely perfect utilisation of a PHEV. A full size SUV, without parallel in the BEV world (e-tron/eqc not comparable, cost multiples), running primarily on electricity, likely in urban areas (commuting), where ICE do most damage.

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kanuseeme

Kramer wrote: »

A gen 1 Leaf I bet .

Yeah thats a good proper one, only have to plug it in half as much as a phev.:D:D:D

iniall

CoBo55 wrote: »

You should have gotten a proper ev.

My OH has the proper EV - I have to slum it with the PHEV... :pac:

CoBo55

Kramer wrote: »

A gen 1 Leaf I bet .

God spare us!!

CoBo55

There's a lot of smart arses on here. If there's charge in the battery it will run as a hybrid while tipping around town similar to a Prius, that's what hybrids do.

jayzee

Thanks for the response.
How long is the charge time - we have potential access via a back lane but wouldn't want to block it for hours.
This could make it workable for us.

iniall

jayzee wrote: »

Thanks for the response.
How long is the charge time - we have potential access via a back lane but wouldn't want to block it for hours.
This could make it workable for us.

It depends on what the power source is. If it's a granny cable (regular three-pin plug in a domestic socket) then a full charge takes about 5 hours. I have a Zappi charger which will charge from zero to full in about 3 hours. The charger at work will do it in a similar time. So hopefully in your case that back lane isn't too busy...

danoriordan1402

How do these drive/handle from an owners perspective. The range suits me perfect as it will be just used for running around local and my commute is 15miles round trip ( if we ever get back to the office... ) I need a decent boot for 2 medium size dogs as well, and throwing a bike rack on it. Split between the c350e and the outlander - I know the finish in the Merc would be better but I will be booking a test drive in a Outlander shortly.

kanuseeme

The C350e should do that trip but there wont be much left over. I drove my dad's one, it nice but I prefer the higher position in the outlander, the interior is dated.

I am planning on getting one of these next, https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202008212754335?maximum-mileage=60000&make=BMW&include-delivery-option=on&model=2%20SERIES%20ACTIVE%20TOURER&radius=1500&year-from=2020&fuel-type=Hybrid%20%E2%80%93%20Petrol%2FElectric%20Plug-in&advertising-location=at_cars&sort=price-asc&postcode=ls298jn&onesearchad=New&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=Used&page=1

ELM327

CoBo55 wrote: »

You should have gotten a proper ev.

Sounds like the outlander suits his use case and is cheaper than most equivalent full BEVs. I disagree with your sentiment and contend that the poster has the right vehicle for his needs

CoBo55

ELM327 wrote: »

Sounds like the outlander suits his use case and is cheaper than most equivalent full BEVs. I disagree with your sentiment and contend that the poster has the right vehicle for his needs

Would have been easier to say, objection your honour!!

They can be driven as a hybrid too, well, that's according to one of the owners I was talking to.

biko

danoriordan1402 wrote: »

How do these drive/handle from an owners perspective. The range suits me perfect as it will be just used for running around local and my commute is 15miles round trip ( if we ever get back to the office... ) I need a decent boot for 2 medium size dogs as well, and throwing a bike rack on it. Split between the c350e and the outlander - I know the finish in the Merc would be better but I will be booking a test drive in a Outlander shortly.

They drive lovely. It's a bit of a tank but it's to be expected from a large car. Herself drives it too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCJEJrB20Tg

Boot space is adequate for our needs