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Munster vs Gloucester, Sat 20th Oct 1pm, VM One / BT Sport 2

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    #242
    2smiggy
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    The ref is looking at it from 10 feet away. Can any of them make a decision for themselves any more.


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    #243
    Mookie Blaylock
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    Clareman wrote: »
    Yup and never in a position to catch it

    He has his eye in the ball and knew it was coming...not a yellow card ...not deliberate


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    #244
    Clareman
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    I'll take the yellow


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    #245
    OldRio
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    How stupid can you get.


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    #246
    Hurrache
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    Inspector Coptoor wrote: »
    Ref decides to start reffing Munster at the end of the game when it doesn’t matter.

    Matters hugely to Gloucester if they get another try.


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    #247
    robbiezero
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    Gloucester deserve a bonus point. Munster are very poor


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    #248
    c.p.w.g.w
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    Since Van Graan has come in Munster discipline has been an issue.


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    #249
    Clareman
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    Mookie Blaylock wrote: »
    He has his eye in the ball and knew it was coming...not a yellow card ...not deliberate

    He knew what he was doing and could never have controlled the ball, clear yellow to me


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    #250
    Mookie Blaylock
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    Goggin looks hurt, his knee ligaments


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    #251
    Clegg
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    Looks like Goggin has done knee.

    Looks very bad.


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    #252
    budhabob
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    How wasn't that crossing? Goggin looked injured there?


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    #253
    evolving tipperary
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    Embarrassing closing out of the game - lost complete control


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    #254
    budhabob
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    Did scannell get injured today? He seemed to go off at HT.


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    #255
    Clareman
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    Strange to get a bonus point win but to be happy to deny Gloucester at the end, another try for Gloucester would have left them with 2 points whereas they leave with nothing but we have 5 points


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    #256
    Mookie Blaylock
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    Clareman wrote: »
    He knew what he was doing and could never have controlled the ball, clear yellow to me

    You watch the replay...he had his eye on that pass before it was even thrown... nothing deliberate whatsoever about it, no doubt


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    #257
    kmart6
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    Think it needs to be very clear that Munster only played against 15 men for 18 minutes, a BP is the least you'd expect to be getting from there, and especially not to be getting carried away with it.


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    #258
    Clegg
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    Strange game.

    Munster won comfortably but played quite poorly. Still the same problems of old. Attack being built off talented individuals actions rather than structure.


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    #259
    Mookie Blaylock
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    kmart6 wrote: »
    Think it needs to be very clear that Munster only played against 15 men for 18 minutes, a BP is the least you'd expect to be getting from there, and especially not to be getting carried away with it.

    Nobody's getting carried away as you can see


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    #260
    First Up
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    The return match will be fiesty.


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    #261
    nerd69
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    kmart6 wrote: »
    Think it needs to be very clear that Munster only played against 15 men for 18 minutes, a BP is the least you'd expect to be getting from there, and especially not to be getting carried away with it.

    Poor performance to be honest disappointing. A lot to work on


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    #262
    troyzer
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    Munster were very unimpressive today but with a few brilliant individual performances.

    If I were Joe Schmidt though, Beirne is now in my starting 15. Depending on how things go tomorrow, I think POM deserves to lose his starting jersey to Ruddock.

    Ruddock is light years ahead recently on form and POM is just giving away far too many penalties.

    Although I'm a filthy Leinster fan so what do I know?


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    #263
    mangobob
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    I think Gloucester can feel aggrieved not to be leaving there with at least 2 points. I thought Stander should have been yellow carded and penalty try awarded in the first half.

    Still 5 points in the bag and topping the pool is not bad for an afternoons work.


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    #264
    Mookie Blaylock
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    troyzer wrote: »
    Munster were very unimpressive today but with a few brilliant individual performances.

    If I were Joe Schmidt though, Beirne is now in my starting 15. Depending on how things go tomorrow, I think POM deserves to lose his starting jersey to Ruddock.

    Ruddock is light years ahead recently on form and POM is just giving away far too many penalties.

    Although I'm a filthy Leinster fan so what do I know?

    Less than Joe...and he's the only persons opinion that counts


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    #265
    Clareman
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    Poor performance considering we were playing against 14 players for most of the game, yellow for 10 and ref for 60. 7 points after 2 games is brilliant, 2 wins against Castres (easier said than done) and we could be almost through to the next round


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    #266
    troyzer
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    Mookie Blaylock wrote: »
    troyzer wrote: »
    Munster were very unimpressive today but with a few brilliant individual performances.

    If I were Joe Schmidt though, Beirne is now in my starting 15. Depending on how things go tomorrow, I think POM deserves to lose his starting jersey to Ruddock.

    Ruddock is light years ahead recently on form and POM is just giving away far too many penalties.

    Although I'm a filthy Leinster fan so what do I know?

    Less than Joe...and he's the only persons opinion that counts

    Everyone knows less than Joe.

    But I think it's hard to argue against Ruddock getting the nod. He's playing so much better.


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    #267
    mfceiling
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    Just saw the red card in real time.

    What did Cipriani do? He seemed to get a bang for his troubles. Did he lead with a shoulder or something?


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    #268
    Clareman
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    troyzer wrote: »
    Munster were very unimpressive today but with a few brilliant individual performances.

    If I were Joe Schmidt though, Beirne is now in my starting 15. Depending on how things go tomorrow, I think POM deserves to lose his starting jersey to Ruddock.

    Ruddock is light years ahead recently on form and POM is just giving away far too many penalties.

    Although I'm a filthy Leinster fan so what do I know?

    Ruddock is playing better than POM at the moment but how much is that down to him playing with a better team??? The Irish team wouldn't be weakened by starting either but I think POM brings a lot of leadership qualities


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    #269
    Clareman
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    mfceiling wrote: »
    Just saw the red card in real time.

    What did Cipriani do? He seemed to get a bang for his troubles. Did he lead with a shoulder or something?

    Shoulder into the face


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    #270
    troyzer
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    Clareman wrote: »
    troyzer wrote: »
    Munster were very unimpressive today but with a few brilliant individual performances.

    If I were Joe Schmidt though, Beirne is now in my starting 15. Depending on how things go tomorrow, I think POM deserves to lose his starting jersey to Ruddock.

    Ruddock is light years ahead recently on form and POM is just giving away far too many penalties.

    Although I'm a filthy Leinster fan so what do I know?

    Ruddock is playing better than POM at the moment but how much is that down to him playing with a better team??? The Irish team wouldn't be weakened by starting either but I think POM brings a lot of leadership qualities

    Leadership qualities like giving away penalties all over the place? Ruddock isn't doing that. Doesn't matter what squad you play in, penalties you give away are your own.

    Ruddock is outplaying him in every single aspect of the game. He deserves the start.


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    #271
    Clareman
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    troyzer wrote: »
    Everyone knows less than Joe.

    But I think it's hard to argue against Ruddock getting the nod. He's playing so much better.

    He has to start a couple of games and be given an opportunity to show with POM on the bench with the opposite to happen in the other games


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