X4: Foundations

Kiith

The latest game in the X series is out on November 30th. After the disaster that was Rebirth, they really need to do a good job with this, but the trailers so far look pretty good. Definitely a call back to X3. Looks pretty good, and look forward to getting stuck into it and failing miserably :P

Mickeroo

ObsidianAnt done a couple of vids on it, sounds really good. I think I might hold off on buying straight away to see how it is at launch. Apparently they have a history of launching the games in a fairly buggy state.

Varik

Put hundreds of hours into X2/X3/AP.

Thargor

That trailer is very ropey and doesn't inspire confidence tbh.

Ri_Nollaig

I am embarrassed enough to admit, I pre-ordered X3 rebirth.
Wont be making that mistake again, but will definitely keep an eye on this alright. Loved the idea of these games.

Dave_The_Sheep

Reinstalled X3: TC/AP there recently, having a blast in it. If they just remaster that, and include a lot of the mods as game functionality, I'd buy that in a heartbeat.

From what I read, they're keeping the highway system (somewhat) but also having researchable warp drive, and you can't fly every ship, and there are fewer of them. They've also apparently written the Boron out. They don't really appear to be listening to their fanbase much, it seems.

TheValeyard

Not pre-ordering after X-Rebirth fiasco.

But it seems that the devs have listened to the fans. Also looks like you can walk about Space stations, asteroids, ships, etc without the need to crowdfund a few hundred million and take years of development.

Canis Lupus

I think for me it's important to remember I've never played the story line in any of the X games. The story and the bits to go along with it like voice acting and cut scenes were clunky messes at best.

X3 shined so much simply in sandbox. It was wonderful to start from the bottom and build up a functioning trader empire and with the trader AI mods and creating factory loops was cracking fun.

The gfx were and still are really good. Combat was just good enough and never really got in the way much.

If they can supply more of that with some refined user interfaces and a proper economy (rather than just filling pre existing holes) I'd be happy.

Kiith

I'm playing X3T at the moment as well, and going to try and (slowly) build up an empire. I've never actually gotten that far into it, but always love the idea of getting far into it. Will keep it in the background while i do some work tonight. SETA my way around selling energy till i can upgrade my ship :P

Actually, should i do TC or AP? Never sure which one i best to pick from.

Moon54

Kiith wrote: »

Actually, should i do TC or AP? Never sure which one i best to pick from.

A lot of people play TC for the storyline plots and learning the game, then move on to AP for empire building.

AP is more sandboxy and can be more combaty too (there is a war going on),
but it has some QOL benefits and overall just a more refined X3 experience.

Canis Lupus

Kiith wrote: »

I'm playing X3T at the moment as well, and going to try and (slowly) build up an empire. I've never actually gotten that far into it, but always love the idea of getting far into it. Will keep it in the background while i do some work tonight. SETA my way around selling energy till i can upgrade my ship :P

Actually, should i do TC or AP? Never sure which one i best to pick from.

It is/isn't cheaty depending on your POV but the game also leaves some abandoned ships lying about in certain sectors. You can go claim them and use them with AI if you like or sell them. Just google the locations.

Don't leave the game on seta for too long ie hours overnight, it can make it go glitchy on occassion and you end up losing progress.

Kiith

I've no problem with looking for some abandoned ships. I don't plan on spending 100's of hours on it, and will happily take a leg up this time around. Setting them up to run trade routes is what i want to have some fun with, then buy a few stations.

Kiith

Found some of those ships, and sold one of them for around 1.5 mill. That should allow me to get a few ships equipped for trading. Seems like it's a fairly hands on process to get ships to trade. I have to get them to look for the best buy and sell price each time. Or is that cause i don't have the mk3 software installed?

Moon54

Kiith wrote: »

Seems like it's a fairly hands on process to get ships to trade. I have to get them to look for the best buy and sell price each time. Or is that cause i don't have the mk3 software installed?

Yeah, Trade Command Software Mk3 allows it to automated and make it a Sector trader,
eventually after levelling up, it can become a Universe trader.
Mk3 is pretty pricey, if I remember correctly, but pays for itself eventually.

Canis Lupus

Kiith wrote: »

Found some of those ships, and sold one of them for around 1.5 mill. That should allow me to get a few ships equipped for trading. Seems like it's a fairly hands on process to get ships to trade. I have to get them to look for the best buy and sell price each time. Or is that cause i don't have the mk3 software installed?

I don't recall the ins and outs but google sector/universe trader guide for how to sort it out.

Lone Stone

it looks cool but those character animations are janky as ****

Dave_The_Sheep

Lone Stone wrote: »

it looks cool but those character animations are janky as ****

I have no idea why they included those in previous games and again this one, unless Star Citizen has something to do with it. X has always been about the spacecraft, not the pilots.

Varik

Dave_The_Sheep wrote: »

I have no idea why they included those in previous games and again this one, unless Star Citizen has something to do with it. X has always been about the spacecraft, not the pilots.

Didn't play before X2 but they all had the bad animated portraits, and the actual cut scenes were never great.

The actual walking around part was from last game (2013) which would have been very early in Star Citizen original kick started and unlikely to have been effected by it. Didn't play that game so don't know if this is anything of an improvement. Don't think it looks too bad.

Calhoun

The recent videos for this make it look good, well everything but the pilots as it's like straight out of 2005.

Pre-ordered rebirth so will wait on this one as I'm still a bit salty.

Lone Stone

obsidian ant bloke is doing a pre launch stream first look thingy

Dave_The_Sheep

Initial reactions to a few livestreams seem to be positive. I'm cautiously optimistic.

Kiith

Live stream is still going.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlnUEFlyXrA

Calhoun

Kiith wrote: »

Live stream is still going.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlnUEFlyXrA

Why ? now im going to have to buy this tomorrow. Damn you *shakes fist*.

Dave_The_Sheep

Damnit. Me too.

Kiith

Sorry about that...didn't want to be the only one buying it

Actually looking forward to giving it a go. Definitely looks like a major improvement on Rebirth (not hard), and has gone back to it's roots.

Lone Stone

yea i got it aswell, looks like elite dangerous but you know.. fun haha.
The stream's were fairly promising i look forward to building my black market space station and becoming the scourge of the galaxy.

TheValeyard

So you're saying they might have actually listened to their fans about not repeating the mistakes of Rebirth.

Venom

I've always loved the X series and this game looks awesome but still gonna wait for reviews and forum feedback before pulling the trigger as Rebirth was god awful.



I didn't see any on the streams but is there any combat in pilot/out of the ship/running around on stations mode?

Lone Stone

you can walk around your ships in first person mode, stations and board enemy ships but i didnt see any boarding of ships on streams. i dont think you can walk around in 3rd person though.

Venom

Lone Stone wrote: »

you can walk around your ships in first person mode, stations and board enemy ships but i didnt see any boarding of ships on streams. i dont think you can walk around in 3rd person though.

I saw Obsidian Ant walking around stations and do some EVA stuff but was wondering if you can land on an enemy ship, shoot the crew and steal the ship

Rory28

Lone Stone wrote: »

you can walk around your ships in first person mode, stations and board enemy ships but i didnt see any boarding of ships on streams. i dont think you can walk around in 3rd person though.

Well thats me sold. If elite had this I would still play it.