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Stuart Oldings Costs

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    #32
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users Posts: 67,254 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    VonZan wrote: »
    Obviously the state should pay for legal fees when they fail to get a prosecution.

    It's difficult to know what really happened but there is no doubt that the prosecutions case was flawed and ultimately that's why they lost.

    If it is 'difficult' to know what happened maybe it's the case they didn't do what was alleged? And that it was consensual. And that is why 'they' lost.


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    #33
    razorblunt
    Registered Users Posts: 17,300 ✭✭✭✭razorblunt


    Captain Red Beard wrote: »
    I always wondered why innocent men deleted their text messages detailing what they'd done.

    #1 reason? i put something in the wrong whatsapp thread!


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    #34
    Sunny Disposition
    Registered Users Posts: 2,726 ✭✭✭Sunny Disposition


    It is wrong that people lost their jobs despite being proved not guilty. Very wrong.


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    #35
    razorblunt
    Registered Users Posts: 17,300 ✭✭✭✭razorblunt


    Sunny Disposition wrote: »
    It is wrong that people lost their jobs despite being proved not guilty. Very wrong.

    Of course, you can argue that they brought their employers into disrepute by their comments but that doesn't hold water as Gilroy is still there and he was the worst offender in the chat.


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    Edgware
    Registered Users Posts: 5,875 ✭✭✭Edgware


    If the P.S.N.I. investigators had asked the questions that the defence counsel asked there would have been no trial. Afraid to do so in case they offended someone.


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    Princess Consuela Bananahammock
    Registered Users Posts: 33,172 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Sunny Disposition wrote: »
    It is wrong that people lost their jobs despite being proved not guilty. Very wrong.

    Said it at the time, saying it again: when you've a high-profile job, you're pretty much on duty 24/7. Playing rugby is only part of the job (especially when you do it for your country).

    Not saying this is right or wrong, but it IS the reality.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



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    #38
    Roger Hassenforder
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,555 ✭✭✭Roger Hassenforder


    Edgware wrote: »
    If the P.S.N.I. investigators had asked the questions that the defence counsel asked there would have been no trial. Afraid to do so in case they offended someone.

    PSNI initially recommended no charges, PPS went with it anyway.


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    #39
    hatrickpatrick
    Registered Users Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    Sunny Disposition wrote: »
    It is wrong that people lost their jobs despite being proved not guilty. Very wrong.

    Agreed. Employers should not be allowed to terminate people for non-criminal activities which take place outside of working hours. Criminal conviction is obviously an entirely legitimate cause for dismissal, but beyond that it should be limited to activities undertaken while actually on the clock.


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    #40
    KevinCavan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 612 ✭✭✭KevinCavan


    Ah jaysus, somebody had to drag this story up again.


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    #41
    amcalester
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,121 ✭✭✭amcalester


    Guy:Incognito wrote: »
    Presumably if you were in Oldings position , anyone that said you were found innocent you immediately correct by saying " well actually no, they just couldn't prove the case against me"?

    No, I’d remind them that I am innocent and always was innocent.

    FWIW I think he should have his costs awarded, I just thought the OP had an unnecessary dig at the woman.


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