No boozing on certain trains to the West

OldMrBrennan83

Attitudes towards alcohol are getting so dangerous these days as it is, and bans like this are only enforcing it.

Cabaal

Bottom line, you can't drink on the bus....you shouldn't be drinking on the train.
Its public transport and drinking on public transport makes other people's lives miserable

OldMrBrennan83

Cabaal wrote: »

Bottom line, you can't drink on the bus....you shouldn't be drinking on the train.
Its public transport and drinking on public transport makes other people's lives miserable

That's the thing though, it doesn't. That's precisely the dangerous attitude I meant. Drinking doesn't make anyone's lives miserable, unsocial rowdy behaviour while drinking (or, heaven forbid, even when not drinking) is what does. People like you need to take a big step back from the 'ban everything' attitudes and responsibility needs to go back on individuals.

rossie1977

Arghus wrote: »

LOL at all the people suggesting putting guards on every train - in every carriage, I've read a few times, no less!. You do realise that would be a comparatively wasteful spend of money and man hours, when you could just ban the sale of alcohol in the trains in question and have more or less the same result.

They had two security guys in each carriage on the football trains home this past summer and pretty sure alcohol wasn't available to buy.

Not saying its necessary every week but it shows Irish rail can do it if they want

Mulbert wrote: »

Do you think Irish Rail should have at least 2 staff to monitor the people boarding trains at places like Thomastown, Athenry, Rathdrum, Ballinasloe, Roscommon, Rosslare Strand, Cahir, Charleville, Longford?

Don't think that would be necessary no. Big groups of drunk folks aren't getting onto the train heading for Westport, Galway or Carrick on Shannon at Roscommon, Longford or Athenry etc.

The places where they are getting on is Heuston, Kildare and sometimes Portarlington (at least as far as the Galway/Westport line).

end of the road

Cabaal wrote: »

Bottom line, you can't drink on the bus....you shouldn't be drinking on the train.
Its public transport and drinking on public transport makes other people's lives miserable

the bus is not the train. what rules that exist on the bus should not exist on the train because they exist on the bus. they should exist on their own merrit, not because they exist on another form of transport.
drinking on public transport does not make other people's lives miserable. plenty do it on a daily basis, and cause no issues for anyone. being rowdy on public transport makes people's lives miserable on the other hand, of which sometimes those involved have been drinking, but ultimately it's their nature that they are rowdy, and not the fault of the drink.

fryup

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yes, but drink contributes to the rowdy behaviour ...best not to supply them with it

elefant

Are there silent carriages on Irish trains? On the continent there are specific carriages where even talking is forbidden.

The reserving of specific seats on trains in Ireland could be a complication in arranging this, but perhaps putting everyone who isn't bothered about loud talking, laughing etc. in carriages together, and other people who value peace and quiet in others, could solve some problems.

Nobody wants to hear music played out loud through a phone/speakers on public transport though, that would seem more pertinent to ban than alcohol.

end of the road

fryup wrote: »

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yes, but drink contributes to the rowdy behaviour ...best not to supply them with it

they are supplying themselves with it before they board. so in realistic terms an alcohol bann is irrelevant because there will be no actual enforcement of it.

elefant wrote: »

Are there silent carriages on Irish trains? On the continent there are specific carriages where even talking is forbidden.

The reserving of specific seats on trains in Ireland could be a complication in arranging this, but perhaps putting everyone who isn't bothered about loud talking, laughing etc. in carriages together, and other people who value peace and quiet in others, could solve some problems.

Nobody wants to hear music played out loud through a phone/speakers on public transport though, that would seem more pertinent to ban than alcohol.

there is (or was at least) a quiet carriage on some cork services.
for the rest, an increase in rolling stock would be needed to insure all trains are a proper length before they could have one.

starlit

Think they only banning it for Fridays for Dublin-Galway services and Waterford is it? Only at certain times is that not the case? During the day is a bit much to be allowed a drink they should have some kind of restriction before the afternoon/evening at least and only allow to be served same way pubs are only opened at 12pm/allowed to serve drink from then and restriction with licences though can only buy drink up to 10/10.30pm is it in Tesco?

incentsitive

A number to call, and report it to the Gardai at the next station would be game set and match for the loutish behaviour