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Violence in the GAA

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    howiya
    Registered Users Posts: 3,217 ✭✭✭howiya


    What do you define as an outbreak of violence?

    One player hitting another player or does it need to be a mass brawl?


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    Fingal Raven1
    Registered Users Posts: 27 ✭Fingal Raven1


    howiya wrote: »
    What do you define as an outbreak of violence?

    One player hitting another player or does it need to be a mass brawl?

    id say both now to be honest


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    howiya
    Registered Users Posts: 3,217 ✭✭✭howiya


    Fingal Raven1 wrote: »
    id say both now to be honest

    So you're going to log every incident of players being sent off for striking? Can't see this thread lasting too long


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    Fingal Raven1
    Registered Users Posts: 27 ✭Fingal Raven1


    howiya wrote: »
    So you're going to log every incident of players being sent off for striking? Can't see this thread lasting too long

    ill decide based on the seriousness of the injury


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    stooge
    Registered Users Posts: 1,395 ✭✭✭stooge


    No harm having a thread on this. Highlights the issue, no point denying it or burying your head in the sand pretending it doesnt occur.


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    The_Kew_Tour
    Registered Users Posts: 34,044 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    The GAA has a huge problem with Violence but like the Church would rather it covered up and pretend it's all OK


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    djPSB
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,299 ✭✭✭djPSB


    The_Kew_Tour wrote: »
    The GAA has a huge problem with Violence but like the Church would rather it covered up and pretend it's all OK

    Hardly fair to compare the GAA to an organisation that covers up paedophilia.


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    TCM
    Registered Users Posts: 736 ✭✭✭TCM


    It's a man's game.


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    Fingal Raven1
    Registered Users Posts: 27 ✭Fingal Raven1


    TCM wrote: »
    It's a man's game.

    Apart from when we plat the aussies:mad:


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    OldMrBrennan83
    Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


    Moy aren't letting the Tyrone county board brush this one under the rug so easily anyway.

    https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2018/0925/998096-moy-sean-cavanagh/


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    Hammer Archer
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 11,386 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hammer Archer


    Fingal Raven1 wrote: »
    Apart from when we plat the aussies:mad:
    Have you seen the most recent International Rules games? GAA players are well able to mix it physically with Aussie Rules players nowadays.


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    Fingal Raven1
    Registered Users Posts: 27 ✭Fingal Raven1


    Hammer Archer wrote: »
    Have you seen the most recent International Rules games? GAA players are well able to mix it physically with Aussie Rules players nowadays.

    not too sure about that tbh, the aussies were told to tone it down


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    The_Kew_Tour
    Registered Users Posts: 34,044 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    djPSB wrote: »
    Hardly fair to compare the GAA to an organisation that covers up paedophilia.

    It's different but it's still Violence and thuggery and if you saw people do it down the street you call them scum.

    Man's game my arse.

    Nothing wrong with being tough and physical it's another to be a scumbag


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    Jerichoholic
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,585 ✭✭✭Jerichoholic


    djPSB wrote: »
    Hardly fair to compare the GAA to an organisation that covers up paedophilia.

    GAA have never covered up anything like that before?

    LOL


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    LoughNeagh2017
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,074 ✭✭✭LoughNeagh2017


    There has always been brawls in Derry football, even in the 90s the youth teams would have brawls, Greenlough are usually an Intermediate club who nearly beat a big 1st Division club so it was always going to end in a brawl.

    I can even remember a few brawls in youth training sessions with the team mates, the best youth player in my club moved to another club because of a fight.


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    Hammer Archer
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 11,386 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hammer Archer


    OP this is a discussion forum, not a place to dump links.


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    Amprodude
    Registered Users Posts: 4,034 ✭✭✭Amprodude


    TCM wrote: »
    It's a man's game.

    not when the Aussies play us.


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    Amprodude
    Registered Users Posts: 4,034 ✭✭✭Amprodude


    Hammer Archer wrote: »
    Have you seen the most recent International Rules games? GAA players are well able to mix it physically with Aussie Rules players nowadays.

    are you kidding me? They would destroy the Irish players for physical strength. Any time the Irish players try that on the Aussies they get hockeyed. You know that well enough.


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    Ash.J.Williams
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    Fingal Raven1 wrote: »
    This is a thread to log all outbreaks of violence in the GAA

    Hopefully by shining a light on it either the GAA or police will get involved

    https://twitter.com/irishnewssport/status/1043590273719242752

    Shocked to see this, police should get involved?

    that's a classic GAA fat f***er in slacks and jumper running in for the belly and elbow slap from the sideline! :)


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    stooge
    Registered Users Posts: 1,395 ✭✭✭stooge


    https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2018/1008/1001682-mass-brawl-involving-players-fans-mars-down-gaa-match/


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    big_drive
    Registered Users Posts: 3,110 ✭✭✭big_drive


    is there more violence or is it just shared more due to social media?


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    Bonniedog
    Registered Users Posts: 6,665 ✭✭✭Bonniedog


    stooge wrote: »
    https://www.rte.ie/sport/gaa/2018/1008/1001682-mass-brawl-involving-players-fans-mars-down-gaa-match/

    Funniest/saddest part is the number 20 in the stripey jersey standing in the foreground with two other chaps, while everyone else is making a show of themselves.

    They will probably be slagged for "letting their mates down" while in actual fact they were among the rare vestiges of sanity and civilized behaviour. Fair play to them.


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    Felexicon
    Registered Users Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭Felexicon


    big_drive wrote: »
    is there more violence or is it just shared more due to social media?
    Does it matter? The fact is it is unacceptable and needs to be stamped out of the game.
    If a brawl like the one in the OP happened in a LOI or AIL game you wouldn't be able to avoid it on TV, radio or print but it is widely accepted as part of the game in GAA.
    Sure most pre match team talks include a "and remember lads it's 1 in all in. No backing down" bollox.


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    Powerhouse
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,428 ✭✭✭Powerhouse


    Felexicon wrote: »
    Sure most pre match team talks include a "and remember lads it's 1 in all in. No backing down" bollox.

    You’re trying too hard I think. I played in a lot of matches over the years and never even once heard something like this being said in a team talk. Not saying it doesn’t happen but the idea that “most pre match team talks” include it is laughable.


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    djPSB
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,299 ✭✭✭djPSB


    People need to realise that assaulting someone on a pitch is the exact same as assaulting someone on the street. You are just as accountable for your actions and open to prosecution and civil claims.


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    Felexicon
    Registered Users Posts: 3,404 ✭✭✭Felexicon


    Powerhouse wrote: »
    Felexicon wrote: »
    Sure most pre match team talks include a "and remember lads it's 1 in all in. No backing down" bollox.

    You’re trying too hard I think. I played in a lot of matches over the years and never even once heard something like this being said in a team talk. Not saying it doesn’t happen but the idea that “most pre match team talks” include it is laughable.
    Maybe just managers I've encountered so.


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    Grueller
    Registered Users Posts: 5,100 ✭✭✭Grueller


    Felexicon wrote: »
    Does it matter? The fact is it is unacceptable and needs to be stamped out of the game.
    If a brawl like the one in the OP happened in a LOI or AIL game you wouldn't be able to avoid it on TV, radio or print but it is widely accepted as part of the game in GAA.
    Sure most pre match team talks include a "and remember lads it's 1 in all in. No backing down" bollox.

    I played the games for over 30 years at all levels and I never heard the one in all in speech. You are talking sh1te saying that is in "most pre match team talks".


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    Sterling Archer
    Registered Users Posts: 2,252 ✭✭✭Sterling Archer


    Compulsory competition expulsion for any team involved in a mass brawl, that's stamp it out fairly quickly

    A mass brawl meaning 6 or more players as upto 6 is typically just pushing and shoving..

    The exception being one team who clearly instigate violence.


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    theoneeyedman
    Registered Users Posts: 6,339 ✭✭✭theoneeyedman


    big_drive wrote: »
    is there more violence or is it just shared more due to social media?

    ... and hyped up by clickbait sites like Joe and the Indo with sensational headlines : 'MASS VIOLENCE' TERRIBLE SCENES''WHAT ABOUT THE CHILDREN'.... CLICK HERE FOR MORE!!

    Most of these are handbags. The fact that they happen is obviously wrong, and they should be investigated and acted on, but spare us the handwringing please.


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    big_drive
    Registered Users Posts: 3,110 ✭✭✭big_drive


    Felexicon wrote: »
    Does it matter? The fact is it is unacceptable and needs to be stamped out of the game.
    If a brawl like the one in the OP happened in a LOI or AIL game you wouldn't be able to avoid it on TV, radio or print but it is widely accepted as part of the game in GAA.
    Sure most pre match team talks include a "and remember lads it's 1 in all in. No backing down" bollox.

    It matters to the point of evaluating is the problem getting worse or is it the same as it always has been. I'm not saying there isn't an issue. I'm just wondering has it always been the same but we just weren't as aware of it going on


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