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  • 23-09-2018 8:47pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 4,198 ✭✭✭


    Hello,

    I just saw 1000 Mb fibre advertised on the Air website. It isn't available in my location. What areas of the country is the 1000 Mb eir fibre available?

    A company was installing fibre cables in my area before and after Christmas.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 353 ✭✭m99T


    Many parts of the country are experiencing the exact same as yourself.

    You can see just how many residents in each county have been passed and are able to get Eir FTTH here:

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-Q5HRZo02c1AZWfYMJlEXPMkRhb5iUIJyhssXQwq87I/edit?usp=sharing

    If you want to check if a premises can receive it then follow this guide.

    You can check your availability for Eir FTTH here using your eircode:

    https://www.airwire.ie/index.php/avail

    If FTTH is available then you can choose a provider from here:

    https://fibrerollout.ie/rollout-map/where-to-buy/

    And you can view a map here of the fibre rollout:

    https://fibrerollout.ie/rollout-map/

    Although that map could be out of date. The Airwire checker is usually the most up to date.

    And unfortunately just because you have seen (Most likely KN Networks) putting up boxes doesn't always mean that the fibre lines are ready to be used. If you live in a town you might get FTTC instead of FTTH and that means that you use a phone line to get your internet still and the speeds are around 100mb at max.

    Anything else you need, just let me know.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,198 ✭✭✭Spon Farmer


    m99T wrote: »
    Many parts of the country are experiencing the exact same as yourself.

    You can see just how many residents in each county have been passed and are able to get Eir FTTH here:

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-Q5HRZo02c1AZWfYMJlEXPMkRhb5iUIJyhssXQwq87I/edit?usp=sharing

    If you want to check if a premises can receive it then follow this guide.

    You can check your availability for Eir FTTH here using your eircode:

    https://www.airwire.ie/index.php/avail

    If FTTH is available then you can choose a provider from here:

    https://fibrerollout.ie/rollout-map/where-to-buy/

    And you can view a map here of the fibre rollout:

    https://fibrerollout.ie/rollout-map/

    Although that map could be out of date. The Airwire checker is usually the most up to date.

    And unfortunately just because you have seen (Most likely KN Networks) putting up boxes doesn't always mean that the fibre lines are ready to be used. If you live in a town you might get FTTC instead of FTTH and that means that you use a phone line to get your internet still and the speeds are around 100mb at max.

    Anything else you need, just let me know.

    I used my eircode on the Eir website which is how I know it wasn't available but fibrerollout.ie shows my area as "live".

    If I'm remembering correctly Siro was on the vans belonging to the guys installing the cables. I thought Siro was just an installer, not a service provider but I entered my eircode on your first link and it says Siri are offering 1000 mb fibre at my address.

    Or maybe I'm misunderstanding it all?

    EDIT: Okay, SIRO are not a provider but their website directed me to service providers.


  • Registered Users Posts: 353 ✭✭m99T


    I used my eircode on the Eir website which is how I know it wasn't available but fibrerollout.ie shows my area as "live".

    If I'm remembering correctly Siro was on the vans belonging to the guys installing the cables. I thought Siro was just an installer, not a service provider but I entered my eircode on your first link and it says Siri are offering 1000 mb fibre at my address.

    Or maybe I'm misunderstanding it all?

    Good news! You can get 1000MB fibre directly to your home.

    SIRO is a partnership between Vodaphone and ESB to provide fibre internet. You wont be able to get internet via EIR but you can get it via SIRO.

    Check out SIRO here https://siro.ie/.

    If you want to buy it I believe you can purchase it via the Vodaphone website here:

    https://n.vodafone.ie/shop/broadband/gigabit-broadband.html

    Its currently 25 euro a month for 6 months.

    But the bottom line is you can now get some of the fastest internet in Ireland right to your door.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,198 ✭✭✭Spon Farmer


    m99T wrote: »
    Good news! You can get 1000MB fibre directly to your home.

    SIRO is a partnership between Vodaphone and ESB to provide fibre internet. You wont be able to get internet via EIR but you can get it via SIRO.

    Check out SIRO here https://siro.ie/.

    If you want to buy it I believe you can purchase it via the Vodaphone website here:

    https://n.vodafone.ie/shop/broadband/gigabit-broadband.html

    Its currently 25 euro a month for 6 months.

    But the bottom line is you can now get some of the fastest internet in Ireland right to your door.

    I can get 1000 mb with digiweb I think.

    I'll call both tomorrow.

    Thanks for the help.


  • Registered Users Posts: 353 ✭✭m99T


    I can get 1000 mb with digiweb I think.

    I'll call both tomorrow.

    Thanks for the help.

    Best of luck! Let us know how it goes, we're happy to help.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 472 ✭✭Turbohymac


    Wouldn't hold my breath waiting for fast broadband from eir.. (defunct eircom) the telephone poles around where I live are all rotten and falling down. Only branches of trees left to hold up the cables.. and eir can't even conduct the rollout of the fibre as a previous poster mentioned its subbed out to kn networks.. what happens or who maintains the network when kn has their initial setup. Complete. I suppose like the landlines wait a few days for an eir van to show up.. quite frankly eir couldn't organize a p..s up in a brewery..I'll be staying with my satellite broadband from airwave. For the foreseeable future..


  • Registered Users Posts: 353 ✭✭m99T


    Turbohymac wrote: »
    Wouldn't hold my breath waiting for fast broadband from eir.. (defunct eircom) the telephone poles around where I live are all rotten and falling down. Only branches of trees left to hold up the cables.. and eir can't even conduct the rollout of the fibre as a previous poster mentioned its subbed out to kn networks.. what happens or who maintains the network when kn has their initial setup. Complete. I suppose like the landlines wait a few days for an eir van to show up.. quite frankly eir couldn't organize a p..s up in a brewery..I'll be staying with my satellite broadband from airwave. For the foreseeable future..

    I don't like defending Eir because they are pretty useless but lets be honest folks they are still the only company trying at the moment. Regardless of what anyone wants to say OpenEir have passed 134171 out of 300930 homes. All of those homes are getting 1000mb/s fibre in areas where 10MB was considered amazing (Install success dependant).

    Also Airwave don't offer satellite broadband, its fixed wireless. Lurk more.


  • Registered Users Posts: 565 ✭✭✭Wizard!


    This whole FTTH think, is a joke...
    I have been told be EIR client service that my BOX is fibre connected and my house will be connected by April... 2018...
    I called them on April, they said May. Then June, then July, and obviously it is almost October and I am still not connected...


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,198 ✭✭✭Spon Farmer


    m99T wrote: »
    I don't like defending Eir because they are pretty useless but lets be honest folks they are still the only company trying at the moment. Regardless of what anyone wants to say OpenEir have passed 134171 out of 300930 homes. All of those homes are getting 1000mb/s fibre in areas where 10MB was considered amazing (Install success dependant).

    Also Airwave don't offer satellite broadband, its fixed wireless. Lurk more.

    Will someone at Eir support be able to tell me when my 1000 Mb fibre will be coming to my area?


  • Registered Users Posts: 353 ✭✭m99T


    Wizard! wrote: »
    This whole FTTH think, is a joke...
    I have been told be EIR client service that my BOX is fibre connected and my house will be connected by April... 2018...
    I called them on April, they said May. Then June, then July, and obviously it is almost October and I am still not connected...

    First you should post this on the correct thread:

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057871133

    Second you're not giving us much information. Are you a current Eir Internet customer? If so, you wont get FTTH (Most likely anyway). You'll get FTTC and thats 100mb/s and you won't need anyone to install.

    Check your eircode here:

    https://www.airwire.ie/index.php/avail


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  • Registered Users Posts: 353 ✭✭m99T


    Will someone at Eir support be able to tell me when my 1000 Mb fibre will be coming to my area?

    Most likely not. It is dependant on the rollout. You can check when your area is scheduled here:

    http://irelandoffline.org/map/#!/nbp (Click on your exchange)

    But if your area has SIRO then you might not get eir FTTH.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,198 ✭✭✭Spon Farmer


    m99T wrote: »
    First you should post this on the correct thread:

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057871133

    Second you're not giving us much information. Are you a current Eir Internet customer? If so, you wont get FTTH (Most likely anyway). You'll get FTTC and thats 100mb/s and you won't need anyone to install.

    Check your eircode here:

    https://www.airwire.ie/index.php/avail

    Why won't a current Eir customer get fibre?


  • Registered Users Posts: 353 ✭✭m99T


    Why won't a current Eir customer get fibre?

    Current Eir customers that can get VDSL (Thats internet over the telephone lines) are not included in the 300k rollout of FTTH lines.

    What they do is put fibre to the central exchange in the town and then boost the speeds over the phone lines. This is a straight up cost saving measure.

    In a sort of reverse discrimination the best and fastest connections are now located in the rural areas just outside of the town where FTTH (Thats fibre right into the front door of your house) is available. They can get 1000mb/s compared to 100mb/s in the town.

    Its basically to save costs. They don't want to make their copper lines defunct and they want to keep using them instead of replacing.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,198 ✭✭✭Spon Farmer


    m99T wrote: »
    Current Eir customers that can get VDSL (Thats internet over the telephone lines) are not included in the 300k rollout of FTTH lines.

    What they do is put fibre to the central exchange in the town and then boost the speeds over the phone lines. This is a straight up cost saving measure.

    In a sort of reverse discrimination the best and fastest connections are now located in the rural areas just outside of the town where FTTH (Thats fibre right into the front door of your house) is available. They can get 1000mb/s compared to 100mb/s in the town.

    Its basically to save costs. They don't want to make their copper lines defunct and they want to keep using them instead of replacing.

    So I'm definitely better off going with DigiWeb or Vodafone?


  • Registered Users Posts: 353 ✭✭m99T


    So I'm definitely better off going with DigiWeb or Vodafone?

    Yep! Siro is designed for urban areas. SIRO is still FTTH just they do it in the towns unlike Eir who do it in the rural areas because they already have some sort of connection in the town.

    Siro is your best bet (For now).


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,555 ✭✭✭✭Marlow


    I can get 1000 mb with digiweb I think.

    I'll call both tomorrow.

    Thanks for the help.

    SIRO is a complete different network to OpenEIR and anyone else. It's build from scratch and it's fibre only.

    8 providers offer service on SIRO. They are listed here: https://siro.ie/siro-broadband-partners/ .. Sky is not up and running yet, even though it's listed.

    Not every provider covers every area, so if you go to https://siro.ie/roll-out/ . Click for your County, then for your city/town/village. It will tell you what providers are offering service in the area.
    Will someone at Eir support be able to tell me when my 1000 Mb fibre will be coming to my area?

    First of all, if you're within SIRO coverage, it'll take years before Eir will offer real fibre to you. And then the next question would be: Why on earth would you want to buy it from Eir ? SIROs network is superior compared to Eirs rollout.

    First of all, on the 1000 Mbit/s package, it's only 100 Mbit/s upload on OpenEIRs network. On SIRO it's twice that: 200 Mbit/s upload.

    Secondly: with SIRO, every provider builds their own network to the town, that SIRO has enabled. So they are very much in control of the quality of the service they deliver.

    With OpenEIR, even if the provider connects to them local enough, they still go over quite a bit of their network. So problems and bottlenecks on OpenEIRs network between the exchanges can unfortunately also affect other providers.

    /M


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,017 ✭✭✭tsue921i8wljb3


    So I'm definitely better off going with DigiWeb or Vodafone?

    Have you actually checked your Eircode on:

    http://www.airwire.ie/avail

    There's not much point in people guessing what may be available to you based on a van you saw in your area.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,198 ✭✭✭Spon Farmer


    Have you actually checked your Eircode on:

    http://www.airwire.ie/avail

    There's not much point in people guessing what may be available to you based on a van you saw in your area.

    No one is guessing at anything. If you had read any of the previous posts you would see what information I had provided and that other members were able to offer information in return.

    Not much point in joining a thread just to complain only for your complaints to show you hadn't read the thread, ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,198 ✭✭✭Spon Farmer


    Marlow wrote: »
    SIRO is a complete different network to OpenEIR and anyone else. It's build from scratch and it's fibre only.

    8 providers offer service on SIRO. They are listed here: https://siro.ie/siro-broadband-partners/ .. Sky is not up and running yet, even though it's listed.

    Not every provider covers every area, so if you go to https://siro.ie/roll-out/ . Click for your County, then for your city/town/village. It will tell you what providers are offering service in the area.



    First of all, if you're within SIRO coverage, it'll take years before Eir will offer real fibre to you. And then the next question would be: Why on earth would you want to buy it from Eir ? SIROs network is superior compared to Eirs rollout.

    First of all, on the 1000 Mbit/s package, it's only 100 Mbit/s upload on OpenEIRs network. On SIRO it's twice that: 200 Mbit/s upload.

    Secondly: with SIRO, every provider builds their own network to the town, that SIRO has enabled. So they are very much in control of the quality of the service they deliver.

    With OpenEIR, even if the provider connects to them local enough, they still go over quite a bit of their network. So problems and bottlenecks on OpenEIRs network between the exchanges can unfortunately also affect other providers.

    /M

    Thank you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,017 ✭✭✭tsue921i8wljb3


    No one is guessing at anything. If you had read any of the previous posts you would see what information I had provided and that other members were able to offer information in return.

    Not much point in joining a thread just to complain only for your complaints to show you hadn't read the thread, ;)

    Sorry it was not clear. Are you saying you got someone to check your Eircode and SIRO is available to you?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,198 ✭✭✭Spon Farmer


    m99T wrote: »
    Yep! Siro is designed for urban areas. SIRO is still FTTH just they do it in the towns unlike Eir who do it in the rural areas because they already have some sort of connection in the town.

    Siro is your best bet (For now).
    Marlow wrote: »
    SIRO is a complete different network to OpenEIR and anyone else. It's build from scratch and it's fibre only.

    The Siro website shows me that that DigiWeb and Vodafone seem to be the only options for 1000 Mb in my area.

    Do you guys have any opinions on which is best?


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,555 ✭✭✭✭Marlow


    The Siro website shows me that that DigiWeb and Vodafone seem to be the only options for 1000 Mb in my area.

    Do you guys have any opinions on which is best?

    I'd go with Digiweb so. Shorter contract, better router and better support, of the two. But the choice is yours.

    /M


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,198 ✭✭✭Spon Farmer


    Sorry it was not clear. Are you saying you got someone to check your Eircode and SIRO is available to you?

    It is actually very clear. You simply did not read the posts.

    Why would I get someone else to check my Eircode?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,017 ✭✭✭tsue921i8wljb3


    It is actually very clear. You simply did not read the posts.

    Why would I get someone else to check my Eircode?

    Sorry you're right. I missed it. Best of luck with your new connection.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,198 ✭✭✭Spon Farmer


    Marlow wrote: »
    I'd go with Digiweb so. Shorter contract, better router and better support, of the two. But the choice is yours.

    /M

    Vodafone has the better introductory offer (€25 a month for 6 months against €10 for 2 months on DigiWeb) so I was leaning to Vodafone.

    I hadn't thought to think about the routers and support so thanks for mentioning that.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,198 ✭✭✭Spon Farmer


    Sorry you're right. I missed it. Best of luck with your new connection.

    Thank you


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,555 ✭✭✭✭Marlow


    Vodafone has the better introductory offer (€25 a month for 6 months against €10 for 2 months on DigiWeb) so I was leaning to Vodafone.

    I hadn't thought to think about the routers and support so thanks for mentioning that.

    And contract. If you've got hassle with Vodafone .. you'll be stuck in an 18 months contract. With Digiweb it's 12 months. Also .. over 18 months, the saving with Vodafone is 90 EUR .... that's 5 EUR per month. So, it all depends on, how confident you'd be going with them.

    /M


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,017 ✭✭✭tsue921i8wljb3


    Vodafone has the better introductory offer (€25 a month for 6 months against €10 for 2 months on DigiWeb) so I was leaning to Vodafone.

    I hadn't thought to think about the routers and support so thanks for mentioning that.

    If you want the 1Gb package Vodafone may be the best bet. With them the price is guaranteed for 18 months. After 12 months on Digiweb you may be liable for a large price hike if you wish to stay on 1Gb.

    Edit:
    I'm wrong again!

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=108073722&postcount=5211


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,198 ✭✭✭Spon Farmer


    Marlow wrote: »
    I'd go with Digiweb so. Shorter contract, better router and better support, of the two. But the choice is yours.

    /M

    I know you meant technical support but if I was asked to choose between DigiWeb and Vodafone based on the Sales support I just had from both I'd go Vodafone.:rolleyes:

    DigiWeb guy had no get-up-go - Vodafone guy actually made me feel I owed it to him to sign up right away :)

    Any chance you can tell me what the difference is with the routers?

    I tried google but no results.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,198 ✭✭✭Spon Farmer


    :eek:
    m99T wrote: »
    Yep! Siro is designed for urban areas. SIRO is still FTTH just they do it in the towns unlike Eir who do it in the rural areas because they already have some sort of connection in the town.

    Siro is your best bet (For now).

    What actual speeds does Siro fibre provide?

    I'm getting told by the sales support almost always 1000 mb but others say not even close to that


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