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Infringement on freedom

  • 23-09-2018 6:43am
    #1
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 325 ✭✭


    What kind of a "free" country this is? Where you get shut down for stating your opinions. Pathetic. I guess the little sheeplets are happy shouting you down with illogical nonsense but they're right because they scream louder not because they use facts. It's stupid to call yourself a free country if you're going to put people in prison for saying the wrong thing or ban people in this forum. Just like gestapo would do if you've said something that you've disagreed with.
    I'm not posting this in feedback as this is a general attitude in this in this country and in the UK where a man was convicted for making his dog do a Nazi salute. You'll get mod warnings on any controversial thread to make sure you do not write a "wrong" opinion.
    There is no freedom of speech and democracy is an illusion to control sheep who think they have any power. I've noticed in this forum, members would shout you down with stupid, nonsensical posts and most seem to agree because they shout louder even though they have absolutely no evidence to back up their claims.
    Who needs logic when you can just shout someone down and believe in your own delusion without having to back it up with any evidence.
    Brainless "where you at?" and "what did you eat?" are the hottest topics obviously and when someone posts something different they get shouted down because they have a wrong or different opinion from someone else.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,102 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    I disagree.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,290 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    You should think about setting up your own website, where you will be very free to publish all your opinions


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,058 ✭✭✭Mookie Blaylock


    OP would you have any evidence to back up your opinion?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 325 ✭✭Pretzeluck


    You should think about setting up your own website, where you will be very free to publish all your opinions

    Was that my point? Is that what I've said? So you agree that you do not have any freedom of speech?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 325 ✭✭Pretzeluck


    OP would you have any evidence to back up your opinion?

    You haven't read my post then. Mod warnings prohibiting "wrong" opinions and convictions for saying wrong things.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,867 ✭✭✭knucklehead6


    Pretzeluck wrote: »
    Was that my point? Is that what I've said? So you agree that you do not have any freedom of speech?

    I have a great deal with Vodafone where I pay per word. Works out at about €5 a year. So it’s not free but it’s not overly expensive


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,058 ✭✭✭Mookie Blaylock


    Pretzeluck wrote: »
    You haven't read my post then. Mod warnings prohibiting "wrong" opinions and convictions for saying wrong things.

    So no evidence is what you're saying..as long as we're clear on that


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 325 ✭✭Pretzeluck


    So no evidence is what you're saying..as long as we're clear on that

    No it's not what I'm saying.
    Cathy Newman clone
    So you're saying
    So you're saying
    So you're saying

    Showing your intelligence here
    And just like Cathy Newman, I'm sure you believe in your own delusions until someone give you a wake up call.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,290 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Pretzeluck wrote: »
    Was that my point? Is that what I've said? So you agree that you do not have any freedom of speech?

    I agree that you don't have unlimited freedom of speech on this website. So the obvious solution is to set up own website.

    And by the way. I expect you to publish MY most disagreeable and controversial opinions on YOUR website, because your refusal to do so would oppress my freedom of speech. OK?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 325 ✭✭Pretzeluck


    I agree that you don't have unlimited freedom of speech on this website. So the obvious solution is to set up own website.

    And by the way. I expect you to publish MY most disagreeable and controversial opinions on YOUR website, because your refusal to do so would oppress my freedom of speech. OK?

    Absolutely yes


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 689 ✭✭✭nim1bdeh38l2cw


    Did you get turned down by every girl in Coppers last night OP?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,290 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Pretzeluck wrote: »
    Absolutely yes

    Great - where should I send my pro-paedophilia opinions for you to publish?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,763 ✭✭✭ShatterProof


    Pretzeluck wrote: »
    No it's not what I'm saying.
    Cathy Newman clone
    So you're saying
    So you're saying
    So you're saying

    Showing your intelligence here
    And just like Cathy Newman, I'm sure you believe in your own delusions until someone give you a wake up call.

    Come on, give us the wake up call. Show the evidence.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,992 ✭✭✭Mongfinder General


    Great - where should I send my pro-paedophilia opinions for you to publish?

    Not cool man. Even as a joke.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,058 ✭✭✭Mookie Blaylock


    Pretzeluck wrote: »
    No it's not what I'm saying.
    Cathy Newman clone
    So you're saying
    So you're saying
    So you're saying

    Showing your intelligence here
    And just like Cathy Newman, I'm sure you believe in your own delusions until someone give you a wake up call.

    May I have a wake-up call please..for 9.30... you'll most likely be gone by then


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 325 ✭✭Pretzeluck


    Great - where should I send my pro-paedophilia opinions for you to publish?

    You support paedophilia?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 325 ✭✭Pretzeluck


    Come on, give us the wake up call. Show the evidence.

    I did, sheep cannot open their eyes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,488 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao


    Seems like you are still under the influence of those drugs you took last night. Have you even slept yet?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,926 ✭✭✭Grab All Association


    This is a private website owned by distilled media or whatever it’s called now. If they want to delete this actual post they’ve every right to do so.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,488 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao


    This is a private website owned by distilled media or whatever it’s called now. If they want to delete this actual post they’ve every right to do so.

    That doesn’t suit the ‘my freedoms’ brigade. Although they seem to be all talk and no action and won’t set up their own websites. Probably too lazy. Armchair freedom fighters.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


    Pretzeluck wrote: »
    What kind of a "free" country this is? Where you get shut down for stating your opinions. Pathetic. I guess the little sheeplets are happy shouting you down with illogical nonsense but they're right because they scream louder not because they use facts. It's stupid to call yourself a free country if you're going to put people in prison for saying the wrong thing or ban people in this forum. Just like gestapo would do if you've said something that you've disagreed with.
    I'm not posting this in feedback as this is a general attitude in this in this country and in the UK where a man was convicted for making his dog do a Nazi salute. You'll get mod warnings on any controversial thread to make sure you do not write a "wrong" opinion.
    There is no freedom of speech and democracy is an illusion to control sheep who think they have any power. I've noticed in this forum, members would shout you down with stupid, nonsensical posts and most seem to agree because they shout louder even though they have absolutely no evidence to back up their claims.
    Who needs logic when you can just shout someone down and believe in your own delusion without having to back it up with any evidence.
    Brainless "where you at?" and "what did you eat?" are the hottest topics obviously and when someone posts something different they get shouted down because they have a wrong or different opinion from someone else.

    You're right but your fighting a losing battle. I already see you've got a lot of the stock boards bore replies at you.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,488 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao


    Patww79 wrote: »
    You're right but your fighting a losing battle. I already see you've got a lot of the stock boards bore replies at you.

    Have you set up your own forum yet to allow completely free speech and where you’ll ban nobody ever regardless of what they say?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 325 ✭✭Pretzeluck


    This is a private website owned by distilled media or whatever it’s called now. If they want to delete this actual post they’ve every right to do so.

    They should be fined or closed down for going against the principles of freedom of speech. I'd definitely vouch for that and financially support such an action.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 325 ✭✭Pretzeluck


    Patww79 wrote: »
    You're right but your fighting a losing battle. I already see you've got a lot of the stock boards bore replies at you.

    The boards intelligentsia meet up


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,658 ✭✭✭✭OldMrBrennan83


    Have you set up your own forum yet to allow completely free speech and where you’ll ban nobody ever regardless of what they say?

    It's not that black and white. Everyone knows you must have the 'right' opinion here or your at nothing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,048 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    Patww79 wrote: »
    It's not that black and white. Everyone knows you must have the 'right' opinion here or your at nothing.
    Boards' game, Boards' rules.


    Start your own game.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 325 ✭✭Pretzeluck


    HeidiHeidi wrote: »
    Boards' game, Boards' rules.


    Start your own game.

    It's not allowed to kill humans in this country but if I set up a private enterprise, I can avoid the laws and slaughter human because my private rules allow it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,048 ✭✭✭✭HeidiHeidi


    Pretzeluck wrote: »
    It's not allowed to kill humans in this country but if I set up a private enterprise, I can avoid the laws and slaughter human because my private rules allow it?
    What? :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,488 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao


    Patww79 wrote: »
    It's not that black and white. Everyone knows you must have the 'right' opinion here or your at nothing.

    What goes on here has nothing to do with you setting up your own forum. Come on. We can’t wait to see it!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,440 ✭✭✭The Rape of Lucretia


    Patww79 wrote: »
    It's not that black and white. Everyone knows you must have the 'right' opinion here or your at nothing.

    Which is as it should be. Those of us with the right opinion bear the responsibility of enlightening and correcting the rest of you.
    I think your problem @OP, is that you too often have the wrong opinion, and so it feels to you as though you are being shouted down. In truth, you are being helped to improve your views.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,499 ✭✭✭Sabre0001


    Wants free speech, doesn't want to be disagreed with. Classic.

    🤪



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 325 ✭✭Pretzeluck


    Which is as it should be. Those of us with the right opinion bear the responsibility of enlightening and correcting the rest of you.
    I think your problem @OP, is that you too often have the wrong opinion, and so it feels to you as though you are being shouted down. In truth, you are being helped to improve your views.

    I fully conced if these "better" opinions are supported by factual evidence such as medical ward experiments.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,867 ✭✭✭knucklehead6


    Pretzeluck wrote: »
    They should be fined or closed down for going against the principles of freedom of speech. I'd definitely vouch for that and financially support such an action.

    Ohhhhh

    He’s invoking the lawyer clause. Bye now. Ban hammer and prison time await


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Pretzeluck wrote: »
    You support paedophilia?

    Doesn't matter whether he does or not, cos now YOU do. It's on your website.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 991 ✭✭✭The Crowman


    Pretzeluck wrote: »
    What kind of a "free" country this is? Where you get shut down for stating your opinions. Pathetic. I guess the little sheeplets are happy shouting you down with illogical nonsense but they're right because they scream louder not because they use facts. It's stupid to call yourself a free country if you're going to put people in prison for saying the wrong thing or ban people in this forum. Just like gestapo would do if you've said something that you've disagreed with.
    I'm not posting this in feedback as this is a general attitude in this in this country and in the UK where a man was convicted for making his dog do a Nazi salute. You'll get mod warnings on any controversial thread to make sure you do not write a "wrong" opinion.
    There is no freedom of speech and democracy is an illusion to control sheep who think they have any power. I've noticed in this forum, members would shout you down with stupid, nonsensical posts and most seem to agree because they shout louder even though they have absolutely no evidence to back up their claims.
    Who needs logic when you can just shout someone down and believe in your own delusion without having to back it up with any evidence.
    Brainless "where you at?" and "what did you eat?" are the hottest topics obviously and when someone posts something different they get shouted down because they have a wrong or different opinion from someone else.

    You lost me at sheeplets.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,316 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    Pretzeluck wrote: »
    What kind of a "police state" is this? Where you get shut down for stating your opinions. Pathetic. I guess the little sheeplets are happy shouting you down with illogical nonsense but they're right because they scream louder not because they use facts. It's stupid to call yourself a free country if you're going to put people in prison for saying the wrong thing or ban people in this forum. Just like gestapo would do if you've said something that you've disagreed with.
    I'm not posting this in feedback as this is a general attitude in this in this country and in the UK where a man was convicted for making his dog do a LGBT salute. You'll get mod warnings on any controversial thread to make sure you do not write a "wrong" opinion.
    There is no freedom of speech and democracy is an illusion to control sheep who think they have any power. I've noticed in this forum, members would shout you down with stupid, nonsensical posts and most seem to agree because they shout louder even though they have absolutely no evidence to back up their claims.
    Who needs logic when you can just shout someone down and believe in your own delusion without having to back it up with any evidence.
    Brainless "where you at?" and "what did you eat?" are the hottest topics obviously and when someone posts something different they get shouted down because they have a wrong or different opinion from someone else.
    Interesting opinion you have there.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,951 ✭✭✭B0jangles


    I present a possible timeline:

    *OP sets up TOTALFREESPEECHZONE.COM 'Where sppeech is really FREE'*

    *1/1000000 of a femto second later it is flooded with posts calling him a moron (also some nazi stuff probably)*

    *OP gets angry and starts banning and blocking trolls and haters*

    *FREE SPPEECCH DIES*

    Time Elapsed: 4 minutes


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,417 ✭✭✭ToddyDoody


    The Buddha sat on a rock and meditated. After 7 days and 7 nights the air began to speak. 'There's no free speech in this country' was it's prophecy.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38 CountingR


    Pretzeluck wrote: »
    What kind of a "free" country this is? Where you get shut down for stating your opinions. Pathetic. I guess the little sheeplets are happy shouting you down with illogical nonsense but they're right because they scream louder not because they use facts. It's stupid to call yourself a free country if you're going to put people in prison for saying the wrong thing or ban people in this forum. Just like gestapo would do if you've said something that you've disagreed with.
    I'm not posting this in feedback as this is a general attitude in this in this country and in the UK where a man was convicted for making his dog...


    BREAKING NEWS from ‘The Sun’ (probably):

    Man arrested for in-‘dog’-trinating ca-‘nein’ with Nazi ‘pup’-aganda

    Pup ‘goebbels’ up disturbing ‘dog’ma


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 325 ✭✭Pretzeluck


    Doesn't matter whether he does or not, cos now YOU do. It's on your website.

    That is one of the stupidest things that I've read today. So if my friend shoots someone inside my house then I'm going to prison with him because it's happened in my house even though I had nothing to do with it?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,876 ✭✭✭The J Stands for Jay


    Pretzeluck wrote: »
    Was that my point? Is that what I've said? So you agree that you do not have any freedom of speech?

    You clearly have never understood what 'freedom of speech' means in the first place.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 325 ✭✭Pretzeluck


    B0jangles wrote: »
    I present a possible timeline:

    *OP sets up TOTALFREESPEECHZONE.COM 'Where sppeech is really FREE'*

    *1/1000000 of a femto second later it is flooded with posts calling him a moron (also some nazi stuff probably)*

    *OP gets angry and starts banning and blocking trolls and haters*

    *FREE SPPEECCH DIES*

    Time Elapsed: 4 minutes

    We have a charlatan here.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 325 ✭✭Pretzeluck


    McGaggs wrote: »
    You clearly have never understood what 'freedom of speech' means in the first place.

    USA example is the best example.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,876 ✭✭✭The J Stands for Jay


    Pretzeluck wrote: »
    They should be fined or closed down for going against the principles of freedom of speech. I'd definitely vouch for that and financially support such an action.

    Just checked our Constitution, there's no freedom of speech in there.

    Were you confused by the referendum we had recently on repealing the 8th amendment? Wondering why we wanted to get rid of a ban on cruel and unusual punishment?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,349 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    Pretzeluck wrote: »
    USA example is the best example.

    So move there. All the best now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,876 ✭✭✭The J Stands for Jay


    Pretzeluck wrote: »
    USA example is the best example.

    If we're going to get all foreign, why don't you reference Russia's anti gay propaganda laws?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 325 ✭✭Pretzeluck


    So move there. All the best now.

    Should Hitler have moved to Italy instead of try changing his home country? Ridiculous logic.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 325 ✭✭Pretzeluck


    McGaggs wrote: »
    If we're going to get all foreign, why don't you reference Russia's anti gay propaganda laws?

    Why are we speaking English which is foreign? Why do we have democracy if its foreign since we are not allowed to use anything invented by other countries.
    Why do we import foreign food? Electronics from Japan and China? Why are we going international?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,995 ✭✭✭Sofiztikated


    Pretzeluck wrote: »
    Should Hitler have moved to Italy instead of try changing his home country? Ridiculous logic.

    So you're Hitler?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 325 ✭✭Pretzeluck


    So you're Hitler?

    No, but why hitler didn't move to Italy which was fascist first instead of trying to change his home country? Why?! Answer me!!!


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