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Senior UK Police Officer faces the sack after saying the phrase 'whiter than white'

  • 19-09-2018 12:42pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,017 ✭✭✭


    A senior Metropolitan Police officer who used the phrase "whiter than white" faces losing his job for alleged racism and gross misconduct.

    The detective superintendent is said to have made the comment in a briefing to colleagues during which he discussed the need to be faultless and above reproach in carrying out inquiries.

    But a complaint was made about his choice of words which was passed to the police watchdog for investigation, according to the Evening Standard.

    The highly respected officer has been placed on restricted duties while the Independent Office for Police Conduct (IOPC) investigates and has reportedly been warned the inquiry may take up to 12 months to complete.

    He is attached to Scotland Yard’s anti corruption squad, the Directorate of Professional Standards.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/09/14/senior-officer-faces-action-saying-whiter-white/

    A bit harsh?

    I believe the term 'whiter than white' it's a literal word play on the actual colour white being clear and clean, used to imply that something is spotless, clear and clean.

    I guess other phrases with word play on colour like 'its not a black or white issue' or 'feeling blue' could be deemed insensitive in some way as well?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 965 ✭✭✭verycool


    Hate to be the stupid c*nt who complained.

    Wouldn't want a police force who are trigger(ed) happy! :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,977 ✭✭✭mikemac2


    Someone trying to blacken his good name


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,190 ✭✭✭Rory28


    Wasn't that a Daz slogan? Maybe Aeriel? one of the clothes detergents.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 789 ✭✭✭Turnipman


    "An inquiry concerning another officer's use of the phrase "pale, stale and male" in another force is also said to be in progress."

    O tempora o mores :( this is truly a great time to be alive. Gob****es to the left of us and snowflakes (also a racist term?) to the right.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,874 ✭✭✭Edgware


    Why dismiss him? Just transfer him to Whitechapel or Blackheath.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 116 ✭✭per aspera ad astra


    What a bunch of politically correct b*stards.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,874 ✭✭✭Edgware


    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/09/14/senior-officer-faces-action-saying-whiter-white/

    A bit harsh?

    I believe the term 'whiter than white' it's a literal word play on the actual colour white being clear and clean, used to imply that something is spotless, clear and clean.

    I guess other phrases with word play on colour like 'its not a black or white issue' or 'feeling blue' could be deemed insensitive in some way as well?

    Where London leads Ireland follows. Plenty gob****es would have the Gardai go all P.C.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,500 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    It's like living in the twilight zone at this stage.

    British Police have gone completely off the wall over the past number of yrs.

    As organised crime spirals out of control in big urban areas, plod is busting down doors at 6am to arrest people for making a joke on the internet.

    Watch out for 'Operation Offensive Halloween Costume' next month.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,216 ✭✭✭jiltloop


    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/09/14/senior-officer-faces-action-saying-whiter-white/

    A bit harsh?

    I believe the term 'whiter than white' it's a literal word play on the actual colour white being clear and clean, used to imply that something is spotless, clear and clean.

    I guess other phrases with word play on colour like 'its not a black or white issue' or 'feeling blue' could be deemed insensitive in some way as well?

    Yeah the last thing you want to do is upset those damn Smurfs!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,055 ✭✭✭conorhal


    It's like living in the twilight zone at this stage.

    British Police have gone completely off the wall over the past number of yrs.

    As organised crime spirals out of control in big urban areas, plod is busting down doors at 6am to arrest people for making a joke on the internet.

    Watch out for 'Operation Offensive Halloween Costume' next month.


    You have stabbings out of control in London and people having acid thrown in their face and were is Sadiq Khan putting policing resources? Into policing offence on the internet
    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-39692811


    Once you start hiring whole departments of SJWs and they embed themselves in an institution like ticks ...then 'policing out of any wrongthinkers' starts to happen an you end up with this sort of mess.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,252 ✭✭✭FTA69


    conorhal wrote: »
    You have stabbings out of control in London and people having acid thrown in their face and were is Sadiq Khan putting policing resources? Into policing offence on the internet
    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-london-39692811


    Once you start hiring whole departments of SJWs and they embed themselves in an institution like ticks this 'policing out of wrongthinkers' starts to happen an you end up with this sort of mess.

    Police resources have been slashed to the bone by the government, not by Sadiq Khan.

    I think Khan is a slippery sh*t, but he’s not to blame for the police not having a shilling.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 93 ✭✭Aethan Dor


    Rory28 wrote: »
    Wasn't that a Daz slogan? Maybe Aeriel? one of the clothes detergents.

    Correct I believe, think it was Daz, no racial connotations implied in that slogans intended use at all, truly a ridiculous world we live in these days.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,252 ✭✭✭FTA69


    I think any right-thinking person who isn't a complete lunatic can agree that this thing is absolutely f*cking ridiculous and there's a certain brand of liberal rubbish that has gone too far.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,874 ✭✭✭Edgware


    jiltloop wrote: »
    Yeah the last thing you want to do is upset those damn Smurfs!

    Well if the Smurfs are on the list it won't be long before they target the Oompah Loopas.
    It's worse than Warsaw in 1940


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,076 ✭✭✭JMNolan


    FTA69 wrote: »
    I think any right-thinking person who isn't a complete lunatic can agree that this thing is absolutely f*cking ridiculous and there's a certain brand of liberal rubbish that has gone too far.

    I think it's brilliant. The more extreme these stories are the more obvious it is how daft this extreme left wing ideology is. Keep em coming I say.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,472 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    FTA69 wrote: »
    I think any right-thinking person who isn't a complete lunatic can agree that this thing is absolutely f*cking ridiculous and there's a certain brand of liberal rubbish that has gone too far.

    It's ridiculous but it's the procedures followed that are especially ridiculous. Someone made a complaint. It's not something I think is right to complain about, the phrase is fine. (maybe there's more, maybe it was "whiter than white....unlike those n***ers". However excepting that something like that happened, I think it's a harmless phrase)

    What's horrible here is that it could take 12 months to be resolved. People are always going to complain about something, and everything should be investigated. The police should be fully transparent and above reproach. However it's not hard to investigate something like this. It should be someone made complaint. They establish what he said. Then they judge if it's offensive (it's not) and they move on. Process could be over very quickly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,734 ✭✭✭Duckworth_Luas


    verycool wrote: »
    Hate to be the stupid c*nt who complained.
    Was it PC Plod?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 991 ✭✭✭The Crowman


    He's not as black as he's painted.


  • Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,731 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    I simply don't believe this version of events, such as it is.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,121 ✭✭✭amcalester


    The complaint is being investigated but he's not facing the sack (yet). The investigation could well find that there was no racism.
    “A notice is issued to inform an officer at the earliest opportunity following an allegation and to safeguard their interests. It in no way indicates that misconduct proceedings will take place.”

    A completely ridiculous complaint, but the IOPC are probably duty bound to investigate.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    this is a niggardly assessment of the man's character


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,974 ✭✭✭Chris_Heilong


    Another show of the stupidity of living in an ultra PC world.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,252 ✭✭✭FTA69


    JMNolan wrote: »
    I think it's brilliant. The more extreme these stories are the more obvious it is how daft this extreme left wing ideology is. Keep em coming I say.

    As far as I’m concerned this isn’t particularly left-wing. It’s certainly not socialist or rooted in a class analysis. It’s liberalism at the end of the day, albeit swathes of the left have gone daft with this rubbish.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 116 ✭✭per aspera ad astra


    this is a niggardly assessment of the man's character
    Indeed it is. Politically correct niggards – that's what they are...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,602 ✭✭✭patmac


    I think the police should be 'whiter than white' when investigating this matter and make sure everything is above board.


  • Posts: 5,311 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I'm all white Jack.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,268 ✭✭✭✭uck51js9zml2yt


    patmac wrote: »
    I think the police should be 'whiter than white' when investigating this matter and make sure everything is above board.

    If it's above board , how will the vertically challenged people manage who can't see above the board?

    Its disgraceful I tell you :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    I remember about 20 years go someone in Washington DC went to war having heard niggardly in conversation.


    found it! :D Comically stupid and worrying.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/niggardly-attitude-to-word-costs-man-job-1.1258732


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 93 ✭✭Aethan Dor


    I remember about 20 years go someone in Washington DC went to war having heard niggardly in conversation.


    found it! :D Comically stupid and worrying.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/niggardly-attitude-to-word-costs-man-job-1.1258732

    Oh my god that was wayyyyyyyy back in ‘99 as in 1999 ?

    Really ? I mean not knowing a words meaning is no excuse just means you’re not well read, I despair :(


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 568 ✭✭✭mikeymouse


    The clown who reported it could just have Googled it first,
    Persil used it 100 years ago,
    Shakespeare even used a similar phrase;

    Who sees his true-love in her naked bed,
    Teaching the sheets a whiter hue than white,
    But, when his glutton eye so full hath fed,
    His other agents aim at like delight?
    Who is so faint, that dare not be so bold
    To touch the fire, the weather being cold?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 116 ✭✭per aspera ad astra


    Hey look – it's that niggard guy!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,440 ✭✭✭The Rape of Lucretia


    It doesnt matter if Shakespeare used similar, or whatever was acceptable in the past, racist slurs such as 'wh***r than wh**e' are so grossly offensive to b***k people that the sanction cannot be argued. This is not 1600.
    The wh**e-good, bl**k-bad equivalence is so deep in many people, and such an ingrained bias, that highlighted and forcibly rooting it our like this case is the only way to counter it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,407 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    Edgware wrote: »
    Where London leads Ireland follows. Plenty gob****es would have the Gardai go all P.C.

    All ‘police constable’?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,902 ✭✭✭✭mfceiling


    racist slurs such as 'wh***r than wh**e' are so grossly offensive to b***k people that the sanction cannot be argued. This is not 1600.

    Whiter than white is not a racist slur and I doubt very much if a black person would take offence to this innocuous saying.


  • Posts: 31,118 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Stop the world! I want to get off! :(


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,895 ✭✭✭uptherebels


    It doesnt matter if Shakespeare used similar, or whatever was acceptable in the past, racist slurs such as 'wh***r than wh**e' are so grossly offensive to b***k people that the sanction cannot be argued. This is not 1600.
    The wh**e-good, bl**k-bad equivalence is so deep in many people, and such an ingrained bias, that highlighted and forcibly rooting it our like this case is the only way to counter it.

    and the need to take offence at any perceived slight also seems to be ingrained in some people.:rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,874 ✭✭✭Edgware


    patmac wrote: »
    I think the police should be 'whiter than white' when investigating this matter and make sure everything is above board.

    Would that be a white board or a black board?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,636 ✭✭✭dotsman


    It doesnt matter if Shakespeare used similar, or whatever was acceptable in the past, racist slurs such as 'wh***r than wh**e' are so grossly offensive to b***k people that the sanction cannot be argued. This is not 1600.
    The wh**e-good, bl**k-bad equivalence is so deep in many people, and such an ingrained bias, that highlighted and forcibly rooting it our like this case is the only way to counter it.

    Afraid I can only give you 2/10 for trolling on this one.

    It was way too obvious.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,555 ✭✭✭Roger Hassenforder


    It doesnt matter if Shakespeare used similar, or whatever was acceptable in the past, racist slurs such as 'wh***r than wh**e' are so grossly offensive to b***k people that the sanction cannot be argued. This is not 1600.
    The wh**e-good, bl**k-bad equivalence is so deep in many people, and such an ingrained bias, that highlighted and forcibly rooting it our like this case is the only way to counter it.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 799 ✭✭✭dixiedan


    I assumed the comment above was a pi$$take??


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 40,061 ✭✭✭✭Harry Palmr


    That's it's getting harder to tell is a reflection of how corrupted discourse has become.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,555 ✭✭✭Roger Hassenforder


    dixiedan wrote: »
    I assumed the comment above was a pi$$take??

    My initial reading of it, was it is.
    But I'm not sure!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,043 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    You’ve changed mate.

    The Matrix got him


    Matrix-Morpheus.jpg

    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,235 ✭✭✭✭Cee-Jay-Cee


    The wanker that made the complaint and who is probably also a police officer should be sacked for being a complete and utter fcukibg prick and charged with wasting police time.

    The world has gone fcukibg mad. Arseholes making stupid complaints like that deserve nothing but contempt and derision.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,043 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Maybe these guys were involved.



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    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,165 ✭✭✭Captain Obvious


    I think the real issue here is how it takes 12 months to investigate three words.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 116 ✭✭per aspera ad astra


    Every day. Day by day, right on cue – it gets worse. Every day – it gets worse. Somebody is doing this on purpose – f***ing up the world, that is – but I don't know who, or why. B*stards!


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 13,098 Mod ✭✭✭✭JupiterKid


    There has to be more to this story. This sounds completely crazy on the face of it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,480 ✭✭✭wexie


    JupiterKid wrote: »
    There has to be more to this story. This sounds completely crazy on the face of it.

    .....cause aside from this the world today makes perfect sense

    :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 458 ✭✭REXER


    It'll all come out in the wash, in fact at the end of the day it will most likely get white washed!


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