Advertisement
If you have a new account but are having problems posting or verifying your account, please email us on hello@boards.ie for help. Thanks :)
Hello all! Please ensure that you are posting a new thread or question in the appropriate forum. The Feedback forum is overwhelmed with questions that are having to be moved elsewhere. If you need help to verify your account contact hello@boards.ie

Why do retired Taoseigh get to keep their seat

Options
  • 18-09-2018 4:50pm
    #1
    veryangryman
    Registered Users Posts: 5,542 ✭✭✭


    I'm looking at you Enda Kenny. Bertie aswell. They dissapear out of public view despite still being in a job and contribute NOTHING in their last years on a job that pays a good few pennies.

    Why is this crap allowed?


«1

Comments

  • Options
    #2
    Claw Hammer
    Registered Users Posts: 6,164 ✭✭✭Claw Hammer


    veryangryman wrote: »
    I'm looking at you Enda Kenny. Bertie aswell. They dissapear out of public view despite still being in a job and contribute NOTHING in their last years on a job that pays a good few pennies.

    Why is this crap allowed?

    What seat to they get to keep?


  • Options
    #3
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users Posts: 40,217 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Bertie has not been a td since 2011.


  • Options
    #4
    Riskymove
    Registered Users Posts: 10,887 ✭✭✭✭Riskymove


    Claw Hammer wrote: »
    What seat to they get to keep?

    I think his issue is that Enda is still a TD


  • Options
    #5
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users Posts: 40,217 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Riskymove wrote: »
    I think his issue is that Enda is still a TD


    He was a TD before he was taoiseach as well. He resigned the leadership of the party, nothing else.


  • Options
    #6
    El Weirdo
    Registered Users Posts: 11,646 ✭✭✭✭El Weirdo


    veryangryman wrote: »
    I'm looking at you Enda Kenny. Bertie aswell. They dissapear out of public view despite still being in a job and contribute NOTHING in their last years on a job that pays a good few pennies.

    Why is this crap allowed?

    Do you even understand how our system of government works?


  • Advertisement
  • Options
    #7
    artanevilla
    Moderators, Education Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 10,384 Mod ✭✭✭✭artanevilla


    He was elected as a TD. That's his seat given to him by the people.


  • Options
    #8
    Claw Hammer
    Registered Users Posts: 6,164 ✭✭✭Claw Hammer


    Riskymove wrote: »
    I think his issue is that Enda is still a TD

    He was elected by his constituency as a TD, same as 3 others in Mayo. None of the other three became Taoiseach. Should any TD who was not elected Taoiseach have to resign his seat?


  • Options
    #9
    van_beano
    Registered Users Posts: 1,345 ✭✭✭van_beano


    No point giving up the seat and causing a by-election.

    With numbers so tight FG could not risk losing the seat to the opposition and then causing a full general election.


  • Options
    #10
    corner of hells
    Registered Users Posts: 8,363 ✭✭✭corner of hells


    OP , you there ?


  • Options
    #11
    rovertom
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 150 ✭✭rovertom


    The op has a point though in terms of the period from when they step down as taoiseach up until next election. They completely disappear and act as a retired person when they are needed to represent their constituents.
    Enda Kenny fielding questions such as what will you do with yourself etc when he should still be a very busy td


  • Advertisement
  • Options
    #12
    Claw Hammer
    Registered Users Posts: 6,164 ✭✭✭Claw Hammer


    rovertom wrote: »
    The op has a point though in terms of the period from when they step down as taoiseach up until next election. They completely disappear and act as a retired person when they are needed to represent their constituents.
    Enda Kenny fielding questions such as what will you do with yourself etc when he should still be a very busy td

    The TD is not elected to represent his constituents. The TD is supposed to be a legislator. It shows how bad things have got that people don't know what the function of the TD is, including TDs themselves.


  • Options
    #13
    artanevilla
    Moderators, Education Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 10,384 Mod ✭✭✭✭artanevilla


    rovertom wrote: »
    The op has a point though in terms of the period from when they step down as taoiseach up until next election. They completely disappear and act as a retired person when they are needed to represent their constituents.
    Enda Kenny fielding questions such as what will you do with yourself etc when he should still be a very busy td

    The reason for that is to not undermine the current Taoiseach. Obviously he would still be involved in helping constituents but any profile at a national level would have people questioning whether he really no longer leads the party.


  • Options
    #14
    rovertom
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 150 ✭✭rovertom


    Claw Hammer wrote: »
    The TD is not elected to represent his constituents. The TD is supposed to be a legislator. It shows how bad things have got that people don't know what the function of the TD is, including TDs themselves.

    I think you will find they are elected nowadays based on how well they represent their constituents. They are certainly not voted for based on their ability as legislators.


  • Options
    #15
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users Posts: 40,217 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    rovertom wrote: »
    I think you will find they are elected nowadays based on how well they represent their constituents. They are certainly not voted for based on their ability as legislators.


    which is why we end with TDs like the healy rays


  • Options
    #16
    Mint Sauce
    Registered Users Posts: 29,294 ✭✭✭✭Mint Sauce


    veryangryman wrote: »
    I'm looking at you Enda Kenny. Bertie aswell. They dissapear out of public view despite still being in a job and contribute NOTHING in their last years on a job that pays a good few pennies.

    Why is this crap allowed?

    They reamin a TD, unless they give up that position as well. All Enda did was give up his position as Party Leader, and Head of Government.

    And btw, if you are going to be a AngryMan, try learning a bit about the Government, or at least get the name right, its Taoiseach!


  • Options
    #17
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users Posts: 40,217 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Mint Sauce wrote: »
    They reamin a TD, unless they give up that position as well. All Enda did was give up his position as Party Leader, and Head of Government.

    And btw, if you are going to be a AngryMan, try learning a bit about the Government, or at least get the name right, its Taoiseach!


    the plural of taoiseach is taoisigh so they were close.


  • Options
    #18
    Mint Sauce
    Registered Users Posts: 29,294 ✭✭✭✭Mint Sauce


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    the plural of taoiseach is taoisigh so they were close.

    I stand corrected, other point still stands though.


  • Options
    #19
    Claw Hammer
    Registered Users Posts: 6,164 ✭✭✭Claw Hammer


    rovertom wrote: »
    I think you will find they are elected nowadays based on how well they represent their constituents. They are certainly not voted for based on their ability as legislators.

    The reason why people vote for them does not change what the job entails.


  • Options
    #20
    blanch152
    Registered Users Posts: 27,267 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    El Weirdo wrote: »
    Do you even understand how our system of government works?


    He obviously hasn't a clue other than the usual rant against all things FG.


  • Options
    #21
    odetooi
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 26 ✭odetooi


    Enda has a teacher's pension, a TD pension and a pension from being Taoiseach.

    The good life


  • Advertisement
  • Options
    #22
    Claw Hammer
    Registered Users Posts: 6,164 ✭✭✭Claw Hammer


    odetooi wrote: »
    Enda has a teacher's pension, a TD pension and a pension from being Taoiseach.

    The good life

    Yes, but is he happy?


  • Options
    #23
    odetooi
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 26 ✭odetooi


    Claw Hammer wrote: »
    Yes, but is he happy?

    A busy idiot


  • Options
    #24
    Odelay
    Registered Users Posts: 3,799 ✭✭✭Odelay


    odetooi wrote: »
    Enda has a teacher's pension, a TD pension and a pension from being Taoiseach.

    The good life

    You should try it sometime.


  • Options
    #25
    veryangryman
    Registered Users Posts: 5,542 ✭✭✭veryangryman


    blanch152 wrote: »
    He obviously hasn't a clue other than the usual rant against all things FG.

    Really? Didn't realise Bertie was a blueshirt...


  • Options
    #26
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users Posts: 40,217 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    veryangryman wrote: »
    Really? Didn't realise Bertie was a blueshirt...


    do you understand now why your OP was nonsense?


  • Options
    #27
    rovertom
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 150 ✭✭rovertom


    Claw Hammer wrote: »
    The reason why people vote for them does not change what the job entails.

    Well I'd be of the opinion that the job is 90 percent constituency work and the remainder split between committee work and Dail debate/ votes re legislation.


  • Options
    #28
    guylikeme
    Registered Users Posts: 262 ✭✭guylikeme


    ohnonotgmail wrote: »
    do you understand now why your OP was nonsense?

    It is common knowledge that a retired taoiseach does little to nothing while he passes the time, hence why he isnt in the news for anything whatsoever.

    The point is far from nonsense. It is a waste of a seat that the coonstiruency has a zombie representing them.


  • Options
    #29
    jamesbere
    Registered Users Posts: 5,022 ✭✭✭jamesbere


    Got to love these threads. Someone starts then barely contributes anything and just sits back and watches everyone argue


  • Options
    #30
    animaal
    Closed Accounts Posts: 815 ✭✭✭animaal


    I'm not too bothered by whatever Enda Kenny gets up to (Or Bertie in his time after stepping down).

    Look at the system of government we have. Most elected TDs are members of a party. They agree to follow the dictats of that party, whether or not they agree with every policy. The average TD is little more than an extra vote for the party position. The party whip exists to enforce that situation.

    Is Enda Kenny achieving any less than the other TDs from his constituency? Never mind Mayo, I can tell you that of the current TDs elected in my own constituency, I have only heard one of them mentioned by name in the national media for doing or saying anything.


  • Advertisement
  • Options
    #31
    sbsquarepants
    Registered Users Posts: 11,812 ✭✭✭✭sbsquarepants


    odetooi wrote: »
    Enda has a teacher's pension, a TD pension and a pension from being Taoiseach.

    The good life


    Shhhh.

    He'll hear you:eek:


Advertisement