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Would you evacuate your home in an emergency or stay?

  • 15-09-2018 1:56pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,841 ✭✭✭✭


    with this terrible news over in the USA of the hurricane and quite a few people choosing to ignore advice and stay with their property and try and ride out the storm it just got me thinking what would others on here do if you were in the similar situation and the authorities said you must leave for your own safety ... would you?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,841 ✭✭✭✭Andy From Sligo


    maybe some of them think if they left their home it would be looted or robbed?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 409 ✭✭Sassygirl1999


    with this terrible news over in the USA of the hurricane and quite a few people choosing to ignore advice and stay with their property and try and ride out the storm it just got me thinking what would others on here do if you were in the similar situation and the authorities said you must leave for your own safety ... would you?
    interesting


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,729 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Depends on the storm

    Tidal wave, id probably evacuate.

    Space Nazis riding on T-Rex, hide in the attic.

    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,841 ✭✭✭✭Andy From Sligo


    Depends on the storm

    Tidal wave, id probably evacuate.

    Space Nazis riding on T-Rex, hide in the attic.

    what if you had the unknown of how bad it would get - but the authorities are predicting it will be pretty bad and that you must evacuate ? - would you listen to them or trust your own judgment ? - wouldnt that be foolish as well as dangerous?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 409 ✭✭Sassygirl1999


    what if you had the unknown of how bad it would get - but the authorities are predicting it will be pretty bad and that you must evacuate ? - would you listen to them or trust your own judgment ? - wouldnt that be foolish as well as dangerous?
    .true


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,729 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    what if you had the unknown of how bad it would get - but the authorities are predicting it will be pretty bad and that you must evacuate ? - would you listen to them or trust your own judgment ? - wouldnt that be foolish as well as dangerous?

    Id seek the advice of the Cranium dude on the weather forum

    All eyes on Kursk. Slava Ukraini.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,480 ✭✭✭wexie


    Hard to say, depends on what the emergency is I guess. And on whether or not I think the authorities know what they're talking about and on whether or not evacuating is likely to be a worse alternative than staying.

    If I'd be told to evacuate because of a tidal wave I'd definitely stay put.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,593 ✭✭✭theteal


    Were it a crappy wooden American house, I’d be doing a legger


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 409 ✭✭Sassygirl1999


    what if you had the unknown of how bad it would get - but the authorities are predicting it will be pretty bad and that you must evacuate ? - would you listen to them or trust your own judgment ? - wouldnt that be foolish as well as dangerous?

    that wud be weird


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,553 ✭✭✭Fiery mutant


    Well we've seen it here earlier this year, where advice was given to stay in doors for safety. But people still went out and unfortunately died.

    People will always think they know better.

    We should defend our way of life to an extent that any attempt on it is crushed, so that any adversary will never make such an attempt in the future.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,814 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    Trying to get my family in a car is a nightmare. So we'd probably just end up getting caught out in it of we tried to evacuate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83,428 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    House is made of concrete, windows double glazed I'd stay put with a few extra cans brought in to tide me over.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,181 ✭✭✭Lady Haywire


    I'd probably stay, know i wouldn't be happy anywhere else as I'd be worrying about the cattle :o Plus the house I live in is pre-famine so it's pretty sturdy, nice thick walls to hide inside!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,480 ✭✭✭wexie


    what if you had the unknown of how bad it would get - but the authorities are predicting it will be pretty bad and that you must evacuate ? - would you listen to them or trust your own judgment ? - wouldnt that be foolish as well as dangerous?

    From what I've read a lot of the people that aren't evacuating are staying because they have been told they can't bring their pets to the shelters.

    So really the question you should be asking is : if you were told you'd have to evacuate (to uncertain circumstances) AND leave your pets behind.

    In which case I'd definitely stay put.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Only risk in these parts is the La Palma volcano erupting and sparking a mega tsunami, even then it would only effect SW shores of Europe.

    PTStorms or even H-Cat<1 are all handy enough unless you insist on kitesurfing that day.

    Anything else SHTF such as Yellowstone Caldera, or Italy’s Phlegraean Fields (Vesuvius) becoming unstable and causing a SuperVolcano simply means stocking up on the soup n' water for up to 3mths. Indonesia or Japan also have potential SV’s which could result in volcanic winters, but again <0.1% chance popping anytime soon.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,480 ✭✭✭wexie


    Only risk in these parts is the La Palma volcano erupting and sparking a mega tsunami, even then it would only effect SW shores of Europe.

    PTStorms or even H-Cat<1 are all handy enough unless you insist on kitesurfing that day.

    Anything else SHTF such as Yellowstone Caldera, or Italy’s Phlegraean Fields (Vesuvius) becoming unstable and causing a SuperVolcano simply means stocking up on the soup n' water for up to 3mths. Indonesia or Japan also have potential SV’s which could result in volcanic winters, but again <0.1% chance popping anytime soon.

    Yeah but what about Z-day huh? what about that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    Had to think seriously about this in that bad year in Kerry when the National Forest and its surroundings were on fire with illegally lit fires.

    I stood at the door early one dark morning and there were flames in every direction.

    In that case. as long as I could get the cats and dog in the car, no question. The house was rented and I have little stuff.

    Here? Getting off the island? I am sure they would persuade me - if they were obeying themselves. IF! If it were eg a tidal wave..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    wexie wrote: »
    From what I've read a lot of the people that aren't evacuating are staying because they have been told they can't bring their pets to the shelters.

    So really the question you should be asking is : if you were told you'd have to evacuate (to uncertain circumstances) AND leave your pets behind.

    In which case I'd definitely stay put.

    Yes I heard that too, and I would stay if my critters were not allowed out. See my reply already posted when I saw this. This happened here too in the floods.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    I'd probably stay, know i wouldn't be happy anywhere else as I'd be worrying about the cattle :o Plus the house I live in is pre-famine so it's pretty sturdy, nice thick walls to hide inside!

    I am in a demountable dwelling; a sealed aluminium unit concreted into the ground and well drained path etc. No fear of it going anywhere ...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,365 ✭✭✭✭rossie1977


    House is made of concrete, windows double glazed I'd stay put with a few extra cans brought in to tide me over.

    Do you live in a low lying area that would be prone to flooding?

    Every major urban centre on this island would be in serious danger if a major hurricane hit and followed by a 6-12 foot storm surge. No amount of concrete and double glazing would stop a wall of water entering a house and covering the first storey of the building.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭ednwireland


    I'd stay my house has been here for at least 170 years and far away enough from the sea so doubt there would be anywhere better to go.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,084 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    ... with a few extra cans brought in to tide me over.

    Drinking before or during a known emergency situation is just plain dumb: it vastly reduces your ability to make good decisions about how to react to what's going on, and means you cannot drive if you need to.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 886 ✭✭✭NasserShammaz


    stay put and watch it on the telly just like the paddies day parade


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,480 ✭✭✭wexie


    Drinking before or during a known emergency situation is just plain dumb: it vastly reduces your ability to make good decisions about how to react to what's going on, and means you cannot drive if you need to.

    that must be why all the booze was sold out during Ophelia :pac:

    or was that the bread?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,068 ✭✭✭MarkY91


    In America yes. In ireland no. Because our authorities made such a huge deal and causes such a panic over a bit of wind in the winter. In America, it wouldn't be have been such a over the top dramatic deal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 619 ✭✭✭Dj Stiggie


    Drinking before or during a known emergency situation is just plain dumb: it vastly reduces your ability to make good decisions about how to react to what's going on, and means you cannot drive if you need to.

    But then the Hurricane cocktail would never have been invented.

    I live in a city centre, so in the case that they were somehow trying to evacuate the whole city due to some catastrophy, I'd leave. If it was more of a 'if you have somewhere else you can go to, you probably should' warning, then I'd stay put.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    MarkY91 wrote: »
    In America yes. In ireland no. Because our authorities made such a huge deal and causes such a panic over a bit of wind in the winter. In America, it wouldn't be have been such a over the top dramatic deal.


    Three died in Ophelia for thinking like that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,366 ✭✭✭Star Bingo


    I suppose if there was a fire I might be edged out the door


  • Registered Users Posts: 33,752 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    Graces7 wrote: »
    Three died in Ophelia for thinking like that.

    Yep, all who failed to heed warnings to stay indoors. It's sad, but warnings were there for a reason.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    RobertKK wrote: »
    Yep, all who failed to heed warnings to stay indoors. It's sad, but warnings were there for a reason.

    A decade on a North Sea island taught me to respect the elements especially in winter. Some terrible and avoidable tragedies.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,737 ✭✭✭Yer Da sells Avon


    Unless it was fire (or a tsunami or something), I'd probably stock up on essentials, batten down the hatches and stay at home.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83,428 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    Graces7 wrote: »
    Three died in Ophelia for thinking like that.


    Everyone who stayed in their house during that storm were fine.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 92,474 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    If you decide to stay in the face of a tropical storm use a permanent marker to write your social security number on your arm.

    Saves time IDing your corpse.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    those shops won't loot themselves

    So I stay


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,841 ✭✭✭✭Andy From Sligo


    its a wonder they leave it up to the public to decide as well though - i mean i would think if the authorities duty were to protect the public and they went to evacuate and someone wanted to stay and ignore warnings its a little bit surprising they let them just get on with it - maybe they should slap on some handcuffs and drag them away citing "its for your own protection buddy" - and save lives instead of just leaving it up to individuals to ignore warnings


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,934 ✭✭✭Renegade Mechanic


    with this terrible news over in the USA of the hurricane and quite a few people choosing to ignore advice and stay with their property and try and ride out the storm it just got me thinking what would others on here do if you were in the similar situation and the authorities said you must leave for your own safety ... would you?

    Now now, it's not quite that simple. They're well aware of the dangers of staying.
    It's just that the "advice" comes from people who don't have to worry about the one thing that'll guarantee your belongings are gone if the storm doesn't take them.

    Other people, basically.

    It's never said, but it's the main reason people stay. Not everything fits in a U-Haul and some things are sentimental enough to some people that they'll stay in armed defence of them - quite literally - "come Hell or high water".

    'Merica.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    Now now, it's not quite that simple. They're well aware of the dangers of staying.
    It's just that the "advice" comes from people who don't have to worry about the one thing that'll guarantee your belongings are gone if the storm doesn't take them.

    Other people, basically.

    It's never said, but it's the main reason people stay. Not everything fits in a U-Haul and some things are sentimental enough to some people that they'll stay in armed defence of them - quite literally - "come Hell or high water".

    'Merica.

    Never thinking of the danger they are potentially putting emergency services in?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,310 ✭✭✭Pkiernan


    Graces7 wrote: »
    Never thinking of the danger they are potentially putting emergency services in?

    You don't understand what mandatory evacuation means in the US.
    Emergency services do not rescue those who refuse to leave when a mandatory evacuation is declared.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,934 ✭✭✭Renegade Mechanic


    Graces7 wrote: »
    Never thinking of the danger they are potentially putting emergency services in?

    As Pkiernan said. The vast majority don't even consider calling for help because they know and the handful of morons who do are ignored until the emergency services. Which is only fair. People have every right to stay but let the risks be known..


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 92,474 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Pkiernan wrote: »
    You don't understand what mandatory evacuation means in the US.
    Emergency services do not rescue those who refuse to leave when a mandatory evacuation is declared.
    Exactly.


    Rich Hall had a bit where there's people claiming they weren't afraid of the wind "tie me to porch I'll be grand" and his comment was "It's not the wind, its what's in the wind. You'll look pretty f**king stupid when you get hit by a Buick"


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,480 ✭✭✭wexie


    Exactly.


    Rich Hall had a bit where there's people claiming they weren't afraid of the wind "tie me to porch I'll be grand" and his comment was "It's not the wind, its what's in the wind. You'll look pretty f**king stupid when you get hit by a Buick"



    Be curious which of them did it first


  • Registered Users Posts: 8 ryanbarrett02


    with this terrible news over in the USA of the hurricane and quite a few people choosing to ignore advice and stay with their property and try and ride out the storm it just got me thinking what would others on here do if you were in the similar situation and the authorities said you must leave for your own safety ... would you?

    Is it was to the severity of hurricane Florence, 100% would evacuate. Seeing the video of a petrol station canopy being blown over in a few seconds would be enough to make me leave lmao


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,700 ✭✭✭Feisar


    wexie wrote: »
    From what I've read a lot of the people that aren't evacuating are staying because they have been told they can't bring their pets to the shelters.

    So really the question you should be asking is : if you were told you'd have to evacuate (to uncertain circumstances) AND leave your pets behind.

    In which case I'd definitely stay put.

    Pets life on par with family members? Sounds daft however each to their own. I know in my case Fido gets funked!

    First they came for the socialists...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,654 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    I built a house on a boat so if it's a tidal wave, I'm golden. If it's windy, i get blown somewhere nicer.

    Down there for dancin'.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,699 ✭✭✭Badly Drunk Boy


    I built a house on a boat so if it's a tidal wave, I'm golden. If it's windy, i get blown somewhere nicer.
    At about 90° angle? ;)

    There's a lad from work who happens to live in the same estate as me. I don't do Snapchat, but a few weeks after Storm Ophelia, I found out that I appeared on his, when he snapped me going for a walk during the time we were advised not to. I just really like the wildness of that sort of weather and it wasn't really that bad (and I didn't go too far). Actually, it's nice and windy today too.

    If the warning was for floods or a tsunami, I reckon I'd be alright. I'm about 35 miles from the coast, and even locally, my house is on a higher level that the main roads.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    At about 90° angle? ;)

    There's a lad from work who happens to live in the same estate as me. I don't do Snapchat, but a few weeks after Storm Ophelia, I found out that I appeared on his, when he snapped me going for a walk during the time we were advised not to. I just really like the wildness of that sort of weather and it wasn't really that bad (and I didn't go too far). Actually, it's nice and windy today too.

    If the warning was for floods or a tsunami, I reckon I'd be alright. I'm about 35 miles from the coast, and even locally, my house is on a higher level that the main roads.

    :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,353 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    Id seek the advice of the Cranium dude on the weather forum

    Dafuq would he know about space nazis?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    As Pkiernan said. The vast majority don't even consider calling for help because they know and the handful of morons who do are ignored until the emergency services. Which is only fair. People have every right to stay but let the risks be known..

    I was thinking back to the floods here, was it last year? Not referring to the US. people having to be rescued here?

    and to the emergency services who had to deal with the Ophelia casualties... . needlessly risking lives of those brave souls


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,300 ✭✭✭✭razorblunt


    RobertKK wrote: »
    Yep, all who failed to heed warnings to stay indoors. It's sad, but warnings were there for a reason.

    In fairness if I had to sit and watch Teresa "don't make unnecessary journeys" Mannion out on Galway Pier again then I'd fancy my chances outside too.

    If it's a warning like that then the media have a part to play too.


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