Too much fruit?

Macy0161

I'm not really convinced that bananas are that much of an outlier when it comes to selective breeding of fruit and vegetables. Pretty much every fruit and vegetable has been cross breed for human consumption/ taste/ storage/ harvest efficiency.

Mellor

Macy0161 wrote: »

Pretty much every fruit and vegetable has been cross breed for human consumption/ taste/ storage.

Every Granny Smith, that anyone has ever eaten. Came from a graft from a single tree in Australia.

silverharp

Mellor wrote: »

Every Granny Smith, that anyone has ever eaten. Came from a graft from a single tree in Australia.

as in that was a native type of apple there? I had seen that European apples are a hybrid of European Crab apples and Mongolian native apples, how true not sure

Mellor

silverharp wrote: »

as in that was a native type of apple ther

Not a native species. It was a single hybrid tree that popped up by chance. Every tree and fruit around the world is a clone of that single tree in Sydney.
You can't grow a Granny Smith tree from its seeds.

paleoperson

Mellor wrote: »

There's no issue with a vegan diet (as long somebody makes sure to get a balanced diet). The issue was completely with your fruititarian suggestion.

What fruitarian suggestion? I never said people should go and eat a fruitarian diet.

It's these aggressive attacks that are why I didn't want to come back. People just fighting for the sake of fighting and appearing right. I think I've heard enough from you right now Mellor.

Mellor wrote: »

I think this confirms you haven't a breeze about diet or nutrition.

That is false. Of course I knew about essential amino acids however this is not an important issue for people who are not malnourished. It's more like you who are uninformed and wasting my time. I take some supplements because of various natural thing like vitamin b12 not being gotten in large enough quantities in modern diets. If I ever start showing any symptoms or my blood tests stop coming back near perfect for me I'll give another look at it.

silverharp wrote: »

Humans never had year round access to fruit ,

This is another thing that is completely, 100% false that is always going around. Humans in the jungle and apes today indeed to have year round access to fruit. At all times of the year there are different and lots of fruit in abundance. The tropics don't have a cold season, there are fruit all year around (perhaps in some small regions there is none but they could migrate a little if that's the case).

Also I am the only person I have ever seen stating this so I dare you, come on and try to double check me and show me wrong. I have done my research and in the jungles and savannas of sub-Saharan Africa where humans and apes evolved there is fruit readily available all year around.

silverharp wrote: »

there is probably a harmonious circle in the seasons where fruits probably aid fat storage in the summer for what would have been the leaner winter months.

"there is probably a harmonious circle"....

silverharp wrote: »

the bias has to be that an all fruit or nearly all fruit diet would be unhealthy in the long term and certainly going by some youtubers ive seen, its not doing them any favors.

"there is probably" this and "the bias must be" that. First of all, as I have committed to fruit is widely available all year around despite what I have seen people comment dozens of times online without ever showing it, just assuming it.

Secondly, creating ad hoc theories of evolutionary theory on the fly is known widespread to be a fallacy, also called "just so" theories of evolution. They're completely falsifiable and a lot of the time you could also easily argue the exact opposite.

http://rspb.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/205/1161/581

My most important point here is that fruit is available at all points during the year where humans and apes evolved and that statement you made contrary to this is confabulation.

Mellor

paleoperson wrote: »

What fruitarian suggestion? I never said people should go and eat a fruitarian diet.

Do you really post so much nonsense that you can't keep up.
Reminder;

paleoperson wrote: »

You could eat 100% fruit.

paleoperson wrote: »

Completely false, there can be plenty of protein and fat in all-fruit diets.

It's these aggressive attacks that are why I didn't want to come back. People just fighting for the sake of fighting and appearing right. I think I've heard enough from you right now Mellor.

Aggressive? My posts have been calm, and matter of fact.
You on the other hand had to resort to childish personal insults.

But's that's the MO right. Somebody calls you on your BS so you throw some personal jibe, and then pretend to take the pseudo-highground

That is false. Of course I knew about essential amino acids however this is not an important issue for people who are not malnourished. It's more like you who are uninformed and wasting my time.

So you knew about them. But you decided to claim there's no such thing as essential protein. Sure, that makes loads of sense.

Also I am the only person I have ever seen stating this so I dare you, come on and try to double check me and show me wrong. I have done my research and in the jungles and savannas of sub-Saharan Africa where humans and apes evolved there is fruit readily available all year around.

The availibility of fruit is irrelevant to the point I was making, However, fruit available continuously in sub-Saharan Africa means SFA to somebody in northern europe. This shouldn't need to be pointed out

TimeToShine

WTF is going on in this thread?!

Blacktie.

TimeToShine wrote: »

WTF is going on in this thread?!

Entertainment. :rolleyes:

paleoperson

TimeToShine wrote: »

WTF is going on in this thread?!

You're seeing actual intelligence, seems fairly rare around here.

bladespin

paleoperson wrote:

You're seeing actual intelligence, seems fairly rare around here.

Thanks Mellor