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Not given day off work

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 789 ✭✭✭Turnipman


    Given that the OP has actually been given a day off work, I find the title of this thread very confusing.

    If she had called it "Not given two days off work" then I would have understood her massive problem.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,297 ✭✭✭witchgirl26


    OP - I feel for you in the sense that course you want to be there and it means a lot to you. However you say in the post that you've only been in the job a few weeks and the wedding is at the end of this month. Did you mention this when going for the job that you'd be looking for the days off or is it a case that that you've only told them now?

    I've started jobs when I've had holidays booked and been granted the time off or able to work around because I was really upfront from the get go in relation to needing the time off.

    It could honestly be a case that they hired you to cover specific days because that was what was needed and would find it difficult to cover you for the additional day you want off.

    Maybe approach your boss and ask if you were able to get another employee to cover you, would that allow you the additional day off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,435 ✭✭✭✭endacl


    angelinab wrote: »
    I've only had this job a few weeks.
    thebull85 wrote: »
    Go sick, get a doctors note. And they cant do a thing about it.
    Plenty they can do about it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 336 ✭✭firstlight


    Wouldn't worry about it too much anyway
    Your only a number in the majority of jobs now days anyway
    Once you realise your only a number life becomes easier
    Enjoy the wedding :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,314 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    angelinab wrote: »
    I'm a student and I work in retail at the moment.
    Part time job?
    angelinab wrote: »
    I've only had this job a few weeks. I asked for the day of the wedding and the day after off but they only gave me one day.
    You're working there 3 weeks, and already trying to get a weekend off at short notice? Have you considered that someone else has booked already booked the weekend off?

    You have two choices; work that weekend, or get another job.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,734 Mod ✭✭✭✭Boom_Bap


    the_syco wrote: »
    Part time job?


    You're working there 3 weeks, and already trying to get a weekend off at short notice? Have you considered that someone else has booked already booked the weekend off?

    You have two choices; work that weekend, or get another job.


    Or see if someone can swap with you if that option is available


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,452 ✭✭✭✭Dial Hard


    Christ lads, harsh stuff. Why is it some horrific, offensive idea to ask for a day off?

    It's not, at all. But the OP has asked for the second day off, been refused it and has taken to the internet to ask what can be done about it as a) they have been mistreated in some way and b) there is any realistic answer other than "nothing".

    We've all been refused days off at some point or other in our careers, it's just part and parcel of working life. I think that's all people are trying to point out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 166 ✭✭henryforde80


    Dial Hard wrote: »
    It's not, at all. But the OP has asked for the second day off, been refused it and has taken to the internet to ask what can be done about it as a) they have been mistreated in some way and b) there is any realistic answer other than "nothing".

    We've all been refused days off at some point or other in our careers, it's just part and parcel of working life. I think that's all people are trying to point out.
    Dial Hard wrote: »
    It's not, at all. But the OP has asked for the second day off, been refused it and has taken to the internet to ask what can be done about it as a) they have been mistreated in some way and b) there is any realistic answer other than "nothing".

    We've all been refused days off at some point or other in our careers, it's just part and parcel of working life. I think that's all people are trying to point out.

    When did the OP say they were been mistreated in any way? Very confused here. He was looking for advice to try and get the second day off. You know people do ask questions on boards and look for advice on things. Obviously wants to go to the wedding and didn't rant or rave that he didn't get the day off.

    There is more than nothing that can be done as asking a colleague to cover, skip the day ceremony and go to the afters and take the following day off etc.

    Some people like jumping to conclusions


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,834 ✭✭✭Captain Flaps


    meeeeh wrote: »
    As an employer we try to accommodate people with days off when they want them or need them but employers are not stupid. In our case new employee would be out of the door straight away if they did that because it's also disrespectful to co workers who made their own plans for the weekend. If someone does this at the beginning of their employment it's best to get rid of them straight away and avoid future hassle.

    Yeah, if you ask for a day off and it's denied, then you call in sick, it's pretty obvious to all involved what's happening. That was an instant reprimand/dismissal in the pharmacy chain I used to work in.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,744 ✭✭✭marieholmfan


    Try and line up another job before hand. If you get one take the second day; if you don't get one don't take the second day.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,579 ✭✭✭charlietheminxx


    This thread is a mess. OP talk to your supervisor and see if swaps are allowed or if there is anything else you can do. Explain it’s not feasible to get back from the wedding in time for work the next day.

    For all the ones shouting snowflake at her, I’m in my thirties and had my first job at 13 and would expect to be able to attend a family event when I’ve followed the correct procedures when applying for leave. When someone asks for 2 days off together, it’s usually because they need the 2 days. Annual leave is not asking a favour, it’s part of the terms of employment. I hope none of you are in HR or in charge of rosters.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,297 ✭✭✭witchgirl26


    When someone asks for 2 days off together, it’s usually because they need the 2 days. Annual leave is not asking a favour, it’s part of the terms of employment. I hope none of you are in HR or in charge of rosters.

    It is in terms of employment but in most it's at the business discretion as to when the annual leave is taken. While it's common that most places will let you have days off you've booked, there can be occasions where it's just not compatible with the running of the business.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,047 ✭✭✭Truckermal


    I didn't drink at mine !!

    I'm drinking every day since mine!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,806 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    I think op is being fairly well treated considering they haven’t worked enough time to be entitled to two days annual leave. You don’t just start the year with a full entitlement it builds up on a pro rata basis each month.

    Sometimes working life sucks and this is an example of that. It may be a case that OP has to go to the wedding and drink responsibly so they can be back for work the next day. It’s not that unusual in the working world at all.

    People saying leave, go sick, take the second day anyway are all being idiots as it will definitely end with your dismissal and likely no reference to bring forward.

    Ask can a swap or any other arrangement be made.

    After that it’s suck it up and welcome to the real world.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 849 ✭✭✭WoolyJumper


    First of all ignore the patronising comments directed towards you. Some people seem to think you owe your job everything no matter what the pay, or how ****e it is. In actual real world life is short, most jobs are actually meaningless and you just have to play the game.

    As for your question you could try and reason with your boss and ask if you can swap shift's with someone or agree to do extra hours to work back the time. A reasonable boss would probably agree to one of those options. If they still won't let you take the extra day you can always call in sick. But only do that if you are willing to risk losing your job or if you can get a sick note. If you really need this job you are going to have to sacrifice the wedding unfortunately. Unless you can line up another job for after the wedding, which is entirely possible.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,806 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    First of all ignore the patronising comments directed towards you. Some people seem to think you owe your job everything no matter what the pay, or how ****e it is. In actual real world life is short, most jobs are actually meaningless and you just have to play the game.


    As for your question you could try and reason with your boss and ask if you can swap shift's with someone or agree to do extra hours to work back the time. A reasonable boss would probably agree to one of those options. If they still won't let you take the extra day you can always call in sick. But only do that if you are willing to risk losing your job or if you can get a sick note. If you really need this job you are going to have to sacrifice the wedding unfortunately. Unless you can line up another job for after the wedding, which is entirely possible.


    Just to clarify, OP can still loose their job if they get a doctors cert, its not some sort of magical document that protects OP in any situation.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,107 ✭✭✭gwalk


    Assuming you had more than 3 weeks notice of the wedding, why did you not state that when you were applying for the job that you had pre-existing leave requirements?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,750 ✭✭✭Avatar MIA


    On second thoughts... ignore.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 10,705 Mod ✭✭✭✭Jim2007


    thebull85 wrote: »
    Go sick, get a doctors note. And they cant do a thing about it.

    Now go back and actually read about the situation and understand why you are so wrong!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    Is there anyone who could work the next day for you and swap one of your days off for one they are working?

    Lots of employers don’t allow this at all.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8 vinny.vicious


    Pelvis wrote: »
    The second day isn't important at all really.

    OP do you want to stay the second day or earn a wage? Pick one.

    The second day is more important.. Far better session than the actual wedding itself!! Fact!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,293 ✭✭✭billybonkers


    Have you tried speaking to your manager an explaining that it is a very important day for you and you would like to attend both? Maybe explain you can cover an extra late shift or 2 normal shifts the week after to compensate?


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