Not given day off work

angelinab

Hi everyone,


My cousin is getting married at the end of this month. The wedding is in Kilkenny and I live in Dublin. I'm a student and I work in retail at the moment. I've only had this job a few weeks. I asked for the day of the wedding and the day after off but they only gave me one day. I really would like to spend the second day there, it is an important day after all.



Has anyone dealt with a situation like this before?

CeilingFly

A cousins wedding?????

Seriously???

Avatar MIA

Could be a dodgy hotel, food poisoning....

runawaybishop

angelinab wrote: »

Hi everyone,


My cousin is getting married at the end of this month. The wedding is in Kilkenny and I live in Dublin. I'm a student and I work in retail at the moment. I've only had this job a few weeks. I asked for the day of the wedding and the day after off but they only gave me one day. I really would like to spend the second day there, it is an important day after all.



Has anyone dealt with a situation like this before?

Go to work the second day, or quit.

Avatar MIA wrote: »

Could be a dodgy hotel, food poisoning....

Or choose door number 3- get fired.

Avatar MIA

CeilingFly wrote: »

A cousins wedding?????

Seriously???

Yes, his cousin is getting married. It was announced in a few places.

Try_harder

Welcome to the working world

Squall Leonhart

Welcome to the world of work!

You were given a day off for it, be grateful for it and use the day well.

Pelvis

The second day isn't important at all really.

OP do you want to stay the second day or earn a wage? Pick one.

LegacyUser

CeilingFly wrote: »

A cousins wedding?????

Seriously???

As an only child one of my first cousins is probably my best friend...
don’t see why it wouldn’t mean a lot to OP tbh

Joeseph Balls

CeilingFly wrote: »

A cousins wedding?????

Seriously???

What do you want to know?
Exactly?
You asked for a day off, you got it. Ask for two if you want two.
If you don't get them, then so be it
Make your mind up time, is your job more important or is your cousins wedding more important?

Jack Moore

runawaybishop wrote: »

Go to work the second day, or quit.



Or choose door number 3- get fired.

You not irish ?

JustJoe7240

angelinab wrote: »

Hi everyone,


My cousin is getting married at the end of this month. The wedding is in Kilkenny and I live in Dublin. I'm a student and I work in retail at the moment. I've only had this job a few weeks. I asked for the day of the wedding and the day after off but they only gave me one day. I really would like to spend the second day there, it is an important day after all.



Has anyone dealt with a situation like this before?

Is there anyone who could work the next day for you and swap one of your days off for one they are working?

funkey_monkey

Get loaded and come in the next day still half cut.

Seriously, at a wedding, get drunk and then back in the next day from Kilkenny not very realistic for an early job start. What time does your shift start?

thebull85

Go sick, get a doctors note. And they cant do a thing about it.

runawaybishop

thebull85 wrote: »

Go sick, get a doctors note. And they cant do a thing about it.

Except let them go the next day.

Joeseph Balls

bubblypop wrote: »

What do you want to know?
Exactly?
You asked for a day off, you got it. Ask for two if you want two.
If you don't get them, then so be it
Make your mind up time, is your job more important or is your cousins wedding more important?

He did ask for two.

Try_harder

thebull85 wrote: »

Go sick, get a doctors note. And they cant do a thing about it.

He isn't there long enough, he can just be let go.

(unless the doctor's note says the OP's illness is pregnancy related)

Kitty6277

Ask someone who has the day off if they can cover your shift. We often do that in my job, people are usually happy enough to cover if you need it

Avatar MIA

runawaybishop wrote: »

Or choose door number 3- get fired.

Yeah, not that easy. Plus do you know how hard it is to get decent staff now? That's the very reason they are having trouble giving him the second day off. The OP would have a pick of part time jobs and his current employer knows this and will suck it up.

jimmycrackcorm

Only worked a couple of weeks and already thinking it's just like mitching school.

Op, did you not know the wedding was coming up so that you could have asked about getting the time off when you were accepting the job?

Try_harder

funkey_monkey wrote: »

Get loaded and come in the next day still half cut.

Seriously, at a wedding, get drunk and then back in the next day from Kilkenny not very realistic for an early job start. What time does your shift start?

Maybe dont drink?

I didnt drink at my brother's wedding

runawaybishop

Avatar MIA wrote: »

Yeah, not that easy. Plus do you know how hard it is to get decent staff now? That's the very reason they are having trouble giving him the second day off. The OP would have a pick of part time jobs and his current employer knows this and will suck it up.

It's very easy to let someone go if they have only been in a job for a few weeks and call in sick when everyone knows they are at a wedding.

Try_harder

Avatar MIA wrote: »

Yeah, not that easy. Plus do you know how hard it is to get decent staff now? That's the very reason they are having trouble giving him the second day off. The OP would have a pick of part time jobs and his current employer knows this and will suck it up.

Christ I wasnt aware of a boom in weekend employment- most students I now say they cant get one

LegacyUser

angelinab wrote: »

Hi everyone,


My cousin is getting married at the end of this month. The wedding is in Kilkenny and I live in Dublin. I'm a student and I work in retail at the moment. I've only had this job a few weeks. I asked for the day of the wedding and the day after off but they only gave me one day. I really would like to spend the second day there, it is an important day after all.



Has anyone dealt with a situation like this before?

Why don't u try shift swap for 2nd day.
It's always give and take.

Avatar MIA

Try_harder wrote: »

Christ I wasnt aware of a boom in weekend employment- most students I now say they cant get one

They aren't looking in the right places.

https://ie.indeed.com/m/jobs?q=Weekend+Staff

Pretzill

You could go late to the wedding after work and take the next day off instead?

Or get carried in to work early the day after on all the high horses responding to your OP

Strumms

Ask for a reason as to why they can’t grant the leave request. If it is reasonable... such as already staff off then deal with it or try get a swap. If they can’t or won’t justify the reason for declining...get the fûck outta there...pronto.

JustJoe7240

I find it funny that several posters have referred to the op as he despite the fact their username is angelina b

Avatar MIA

JustJoe7240 wrote: »

I find it funny that several posters have referred to the op as he despite the fact their username is angelina b

Everyone on Boards.ie is male until proven otherwise as in pics or GTO... and not even then sometimes

fishy_fishy

I had a look at your post history, OP, to try get an idea of your age. Interestingly, found a thread where you didn't like your job last year and were having problems there too.

The reason I was curious about your age is that the advice I'd give depends on it. Aged 16 to 18, I'd tell you that it's a little harsh to find out at a big event that other people don't really care if it's your cousin's wedding. But at 16 to 18, cousins tend to be closer, and if it's that big a deal just find another job. Too young for a part time job to make you lose out.

However, I make you out to be about 22. So I'm gonna tell you - nobody cares. They've been goos enough to give you the day off for it so suck it up and resolve it yourself. Either get someone to swap with, or find another job. But it's not their problem, they've accommodated you.

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Try_harder wrote: »

Maybe dont drink?

I didnt drink at my brother's wedding

I didn't drink at mine !!

CeilingFly

fishy_fishy wrote: »

I had a look at your post history, OP, to try get an idea of your age. Interestingly, found a thread where you didn't like your job last year and were having problems there too.

The reason I was curious about your age is that the advice I'd give depends on it. Aged 16 to 18, I'd tell you that it's a little harsh to find out at a big event that other people don't really care if it's your cousin's wedding. But at 16 to 18, cousins tend to be closer, and if it's that big a deal just find another job. Too young for a part time job to make you lose out.

However, I make you out to be about 22. So I'm gonna tell you - nobody cares. They've been goos enough to give you the day off for it so suck it up and resolve it yourself. Either get someone to swap with, or find another job. But it's not their problem, they've accommodated you.

Today's snowflake generation are spoilt rotten after being cossetted in cotton wool by their mammys and think the world revolves around their needs.

Then reality bites and they have no clue

n!ghtmancometh

CeilingFly wrote: »

Today's snowflake generation are spoilt rotten after being cossetted in cotton wool by their mammys and think the world revolves around their needs.

Then reality bites and they have no clue

Oh piss off!

Yes we really are spoilt rotten, what with our zero hours contracts and, the gig (insecure) economy and the inability to afford and obtain decent housing. It's you who is out of touch with reality here honestly. Continue spouting your ill informed Trump-isms though.

fishy_fishy

CeilingFly wrote: »

fishy_fishy wrote: »

I had a look at your post history, OP, to try get an idea of your age. Interestingly, found a thread where you didn't like your job last year and were having problems there too.

The reason I was curious about your age is that the advice I'd give depends on it. Aged 16 to 18, I'd tell you that it's a little harsh to find out at a big event that other people don't really care if it's your cousin's wedding. But at 16 to 18, cousins tend to be closer, and if it's that big a deal just find another job. Too young for a part time job to make you lose out.

However, I make you out to be about 22. So I'm gonna tell you - nobody cares. They've been goos enough to give you the day off for it so suck it up and resolve it yourself. Either get someone to swap with, or find another job. But it's not their problem, they've accommodated you.

Today's snowflake generation are spoilt rotten after being cossetted in cotton wool by their mammys and think the world revolves around their needs.

Then reality bites and they have no clue

I think that's unfair. It's the OP who needs to grow up and harden up, not an entire generation who've genuinely been ripped off by people 30-40 years their senior. I work with plenty of people around the OPs age. They work hard and have a marked degree more cop on than someone whinging about only getting one day off for a wedding instead of two. People the OPs age who sometimes work 12 days on the go and don't see daylight that whole time because of the long hours, and who don't take it for granted that they'd get time off for a funeral.

But for the OP, you're right. Reality bites.

Danzy

Boo ****ing hoo.

You'll have plenty more good days ahead.

Danzy

n!ghtmancometh wrote: »

Oh piss off!

Yes we really are spoilt rotten, what with our zero hours contracts and, the gig (insecure) economy and the inability to afford and obtain decent housing. It's you who is out of touch with reality here honestly. Continue spouting your ill informed Trump-isms though.

The deal is raw but the precious attitude makes it so much worse for yourself and them.

It is also a waste of time and changes nothing but annoys people who are going through tough times and often have, people you should be trying to bring alone.

You can either feel sorry for yourself under the stream of piss and the hungry stomach or change it or your own circumstances.

CeilingFly

fishy_fishy wrote: »

I think that's unfair. It's the OP who needs to grow up and harden up, not an entire generation who've genuinely been ripped off by people 30-40 years their senior. I work with plenty of people around the OPs age. They work hard and have a marked degree more cop on than someone whinging about only getting one day off for a wedding instead of two. People the OPs age who sometimes work 12 days on the go and don't see daylight that whole time because of the long hours, and who don't take it for granted that they'd get time off for a funeral.

But for the OP, you're right. Reality bites.

I fully agree that many in the op's age are superb - I employ several.

They are not snowflakes. They understand the value of work and responsibility.

There's a cohort that are considered snowflakes that think the world resolves around their lives.

Reality bites after a while.

Avatar MIA

It's official, boards has turned into a refuge of old foggies that have forgotten what it's like to be young.

Rubberchikken

How about looking up labour laws.
If youre only in the job a short time Op you mightnt be entitled to two days off. And if the roster is made up week maybe 2 in advance its not so easy to start giving new employees 2 days in a row off on short notice.
Its work life - get used to it.

Edgware

Do you think your employer would give you a lend of a company car as well as two days off just to make things easier for you?

The employer must realise that he is there to serve your needs not to make money. After all you have been with the company for two weeks

fishy_fishy

Avatar MIA wrote: »

It's official, boards has turned into a refuge of old foggies that have forgotten what it's like to be young.

I'm 30. Not exactly an old fogie. I just think the OP is being treated fairly and needs to wake up to reality.

miamee

angelinab wrote: »

Hi everyone,


My cousin is getting married at the end of this month. The wedding is in Kilkenny and I live in Dublin. I'm a student and I work in retail at the moment. I've only had this job a few weeks. I asked for the day of the wedding and the day after off but they only gave me one day. I really would like to spend the second day there, it is an important day after all.



Has anyone dealt with a situation like this before?

People are being unfairly harsh in some responses here, take no notice. The reality is, you're only there a few weeks so you don't have any 'pull'. I'm not sure if you'd even have earned two annual leave days yet.

You could talk to your manager and explain why you wanted the second day off (if you haven't already) but in reality, they are unlikely to give you a weekend off when they have more than likely employed you to cover weekend shifts. Maybe see if a co-worker could cover for you on the second day or could swap to a later shift giving you time to get back from Kilkenny?

The other option is to give up the job and go to the wedding but I'd only do that if you were reasonably sure that you could pick up something else straight away. Whatever you do, enjoy the wedding!

meeeeh

You can ask if they would give you next day off if one of your co-workers fills in for you. You don't have any rights and as a new employee you can be fired without reason. It might be just something you will have to suck up.

As for snotty replies, most of us would ask for two days attending a wedding, it's not unreasonable request. Also op doesn't owe his employer any particular gratitude, he is providing a service, they are paying him for it, if he is good enough he will be kept if not, he won't.

Whirl_wolle

The op is a student. I presume the op can't afford a car but I could be wrong there. Maybe has to rely on public transport or a lift to get to and from the wedding. If the wedding is on a Saturday, it might be hard to get transport back to Dublin on time with Sunday schedules and then if the op is relying on a lift, that may not work out too well either if the driver tends to have some drinks. I think it's poor form from the employer if that's the case.

Buttercake

Would the same cousin make similar sacrifices for a wedding in Dublin?

henryforde80

Buttercake wrote: »

Would the same cousin make similar sacrifices for a wedding in Dublin?

My god some of the responses here. All OP is looking for is a bit of friendly advice. People are jumping all over him because he wants some advice of getting a second day off to enjoy his cousins wedding without worrying of going into work the following day.

As others have mentioned OP, maybe explain to your manager your really good friends with your cousin and would it be okay if you got someone else to cover your shift and it's a once off.

If he says no, there is really nothing else you can do except quit but would be really poor form out of the employer not to give you the two days if cover is available.

Also just go to the afters and get loaded and take the next day off

henryforde80

fishy_fishy wrote: »

I'm 30. Not exactly an old fogie. I just think the OP is being treated fairly and needs to wake up to reality.

He is just looking for some helpful advice to get the two days off. What reality should he wake up to exactly?

Boom_Bap

Pro Tip: Call in sick the day before your holiday day, say it's 'coming out both ends'. Then you cancel your holiday day as well.

You get 3 days off and retain a holiday day, no questions asked.

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CeilingFly wrote: »

A cousins wedding?????

Seriously???

Try_harder wrote: »

Welcome to the working world

Squall Leonhart wrote: »

Welcome to the world of work!

You were given a day off for it, be grateful for it and use the day well.

Pelvis wrote: »

The second day isn't important at all really.

OP do you want to stay the second day or earn a wage? Pick one.

jimmycrackcorm wrote: »

Only worked a couple of weeks and already thinking it's just like mitching school.

Op, did you not know the wedding was coming up so that you could have asked about getting the time off when you were accepting the job?

fishy_fishy wrote: »

I had a look at your post history, OP, to try get an idea of your age. Interestingly, found a th
However, I make you out to be about 22. So I'm gonna tell you - nobody cares. They've been goos enough to give you the day off for it so suck it up and resolve it yourself. Either get someone to swap with, or find another job. But it's not their problem, they've accommodated you.

CeilingFly wrote: »

Today's snowflake generation are spoilt rotten after being cossetted in cotton wool by their mammys and think the world revolves around their needs.

Then reality bites and they have no clue

Christ lads, harsh stuff. Why is it some horrific, offensive idea to ask for a day off?
As for "being grateful" for the day off, unless you're getting paid for the time off I don't see the massive imposition on the employer

Boom_Bap wrote: »

Pro Tip: Call in sick the day before your holiday day, say it's 'coming out both ends'. Then you cancel your holiday day as well.

You get 3 days off and retain a holiday day, no questions asked.

^ This.

Either call in sick, try swap a shift, or quit the job OP. You could also ask nicely again, but that means you won't get away with the sick excuse when the time comes.

meeeeh

Boom_Bap wrote: »

Pro Tip: Call in sick the day before your holiday day, say it's 'coming out both ends'. Then you cancel your holiday day as well.

You get 3 days off and retain a holiday day, no questions asked.

As an employer we try to accommodate people with days off when they want them or need them but employers are not stupid. In our case new employee would be out of the door straight away if they did that because it's also disrespectful to co workers who made their own plans for the weekend. If someone does this at the beginning of their employment it's best to get rid of them straight away and avoid future hassle.