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Haven't recovered since my husband cheated

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  • 03-09-2018 8:28am
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    Registered Users Posts: 44


    Hi all, I haven't posted in a long time,.last time I did annoyonmously when I had found out my new husband of 7 months was cheating on me while I was pregnant. I decided to give him another chance as I was afraid to be single with a new baby and I felt completely trapped in the situation. I had no money to leave everything I had was put into our wedding and new home. He had been cheating before we got married and carried through until I was 7 months pregnant. Blamed me because the wedding left him stressed and my morning sickness left him feeling unloved because I did not feel able for sex. He made me promise not to tell anyone about what happened which I did but it also meant I had to deal with all the sadness and loneliness myself.

    Fast forward 9 months a year and I feel he has never once made an effort to make things up to me, quite the opposite really. He constantly makes me feel so inadequate and useless. Hurtful comments on how I look, how I dress, how I walk, how I talk , how I cook, how I clean and how I look after our child. I feel broken. He's never at home and I much of the time it's just me and our child together. He hates to see me go anywhere or do anything on my own and makes me feel bad for wanting an hour to myself. I did join a gym Last year but anytime I want to go he says he's too busy and so can't look after the baby. I have more or less resided to the fact that this is what my life will be like forever. I feel alone and trapped and see no way out.

    Has anyone been in a situation like this?? I don't want to live a miserable life like this. I'm constantly on the verge of tears every day and cry myself to sleep most nights. He's totally oblivious to all this as he doesn't see anything wrong with what he does. So sorry for the long post.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,837 ✭✭✭Edward M


    <SNIP>

    You need to get out of it I think. My sister went through this a few years ago, she spent a few miserable years trying to keep her marriage together "for the kids sake" after she found out her husband had been cheating.
    A really nice guy we all thought. But anyway, she left as she couldn't get over it in the end and she turned back to being bubbly and good craic again, she's in a new and good relationship again, happy out.


  • Registered Users Posts: 680 ✭✭✭jim salter


    Leave. You may think you can't however, you can.
    This situation will not only not improve, it will continue to deteriorate.
    You are worth more. Your child is worth more.
    Find a way to leave.
    Do not communicate this to him, take control, choose a day, prepare, go.
    You owe him absolutely nothing, you owe you and your child a good life. Just go.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,595 ✭✭✭✭Exclamation Marc


    The end of your marriage will not be the end of your life. You should leave.

    It may take time but you will find independence, stability, love and happiness again.

    You'll find that a life without a monster like that as your partner will hugely reduce the feeling of loneliness and you'll start to become your happy self again.

    Also, if your husband doesn't even have time or desire to spend time alone with his child, that says a lot about how bad a father he is.

    Irrespective of all of the above, you don't deserve anything that has happened to you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,168 ✭✭✭Ursus Horribilis


    I see from your posting history (hope you don't mind that I had a look) that your husband isn't the first toxic man to have been in your life. You posted about your father, his controlling behaviour and the effect it was having on the whole family. I don't want to go all armchair psychologist here but it does look like the pattern's repeating itself. I can't help but wonder would you have even begun a relationship with your now husband if your family background had been more stable? You seem to have gone from the frying pan into the fire. Now you've got a child to consider. What sort of example do you think you're going to give to him/her if you continue to live with your husband? You lived in a home where your father didn't treat your mother well. Now the pattern is repeating itself. Do you want your child to grow up thinking it's OK to be an abuser or to be at the receiving end of someone else's abuse?

    If you've never been in touch with them before, I strongly suggest you make contact with Women's Aid. Have you ever looked at their website and at the signs of emotional abuse? Not all domestic violence is physical - emotional abuse is every bit as harmful https://www.womensaid.ie/help/domesticviolence.html

    The sad thing is that you've resigned yourself to this being your lot. That you've married this awful man and you're stuck there for life. How can you make a statement like that if you're not fully in possession of the facts? As well as contacting Women's Aid, I strongly suggest you quietly talk to a solicitor and find out what your options are. I think you'll find you're in a better position than you feel you are.


  • Registered Users Posts: 624 ✭✭✭heretothere


    Do you have any family you could move in with for a little while? He sounds awful! It doesn't sounds like a nice situation to be in at all. Cheating is a big no for me regardless of what excuse he tries to make up!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,055 ✭✭✭Emme


    OP you are being emotionally abused. You need to leave him and the sooner the better.

    www.womensaid.ie


  • Registered Users Posts: 44 ellejola14


    Op here, sorry I'm only getting back to this now. My little one has been poorly. Thank you all for your replies.
    I feel so so sad that it's all come to this. When I think back to things I've just put up with over the last few years it makes me so upset. I don't know why I didn't stand up for myself more. Even before we got married I felt as if I wasn't good enough for him from all the passing comments and remarks. When I was pregnant he never once showed any sort of empathy or sympathy to how I was feeling. I had terrible sickness , siactia, dreadfully swollen hands and feet and back pain floored me daily.
    His attitude was just get up and get on with it. He didn't believe I needed naps so gave me lists of jobs to do instead. If he came for walks with me he complained I was too slow and wasn't standing up straight enough. When baby arrived he wasn't he doting husband other new mums seem to have. I was left to my own devices most of the time. He still expected dinner cooked, house cleaned and his clothes ironed. Writing this is making me cry. I truly mean little or nothing to him and now my little one will suffer. I feel sad that she will grow up without her mum and dad together and total upheavel.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,837 ✭✭✭Edward M


    Many a happier child raised by one or both parents who are split up, than a child raised in an unhappy home with both parents.
    You actually need to stop feeling sorry for yourself and get out of that relationship, it would be better for you and the child in the long run.


  • Registered Users Posts: 44 ellejola14


    Do you have any family you could move in with for a little while? He sounds awful! It doesn't sounds like a nice situation to be in at all. Cheating is a big no for me regardless of what excuse he tries to make up![/quo
    My family live 2 hours away, my work is here and my child happy with her childminder. I can't even imagine what I will do if I have to leave. It's my child that will suffer, and no way will be let me take her anywhere.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,168 ✭✭✭Ursus Horribilis


    Have you ever spoken to Women's aid?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 13,540 ✭✭✭✭Dial Hard


    ellejola14 wrote: »
    I can't even imagine what I will do if I have to leave. It's my child that will suffer, and no way will he let me take her anywhere.

    It's not up to him, though. It's up to the family court, who will decide what is in the child's best interest.

    You need legal advice, and pronto. It's clear that you are very much brow-beaten by this man and he will do his utmost to take advantage of that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,168 ✭✭✭Ursus Horribilis


    Has it ever occurred to you that by staying you are going to inflict even more damage on your child?


  • Registered Users Posts: 258 ✭✭Springfields


    You are doing yourself and your little one no favours by staying...is this what you want to teach your child that they aren't worth his attention / time / love / affection?
    You need to move on...if you are working I assume that you have income?
    Have you any close friend who you can talk to..
    There is plenty of advice / help out there...people who have helped others like you in this situation...you just need to make contact and ask for help. You have internet access...start there...get some advice...otherwise you are looking at a very sad and unhealthy future for both you and your little one..
    Be brave and good luck


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,168 ✭✭✭Ursus Horribilis


    You have filled your head with negativity and foregone conclusions. Already you've decided in your head that your only option is to stay with your husband no matter how bad it gets. That you have no other options. That he's the one who holds all the cards.

    Before you do anything else, make contact with Women's Aid. And do some proper research into what rights you actually have. Not what you "think" you have.


  • Registered Users Posts: 563 ✭✭✭orthsquel


    the responses here are singing from the same hymn sheet - you need to get out.

    Your husband blamed you for cheating on you before you were married, and 7 months into the pregnancy. He blamed you for his actions. The only actions in this world each individual can control is their very own actions and behaviour. You are not at fault for "causing" your husband to cheat on you. He is. He is also responsible and accountable for his behaviour. You have also been forced into silence by him to not tell anyone about his cheating and other behaviour - that is not right and that is intimidating and threatening behaviour, as well as controlling. You are married to a bully who has no love for you or your child.

    If you've a long list of occasions of being abused (psychologically and emotionally) by someone in your life, it is very difficult to see how you are not at fault, especially when you fall into a relationship with someone who has the same behaviour of blaming someone else for their negative actions and behaviours, and who won't hold themselves account for their negative behaviours. But you are not at fault here.

    Your husband most likely doesn't feel deep down he is to blame, or at fault, he will twist and distort any defence you have, to excuse his behaviour and blame it back on you. He has zero empathy and compassion. He is not a loving person and he is never, ever, ever going to change, unless he hits rock bottom, alone without someone else to blame in life.

    I would urge you OP to contact Women's Aid asap. You have a much better life ahead of you without this bully in your life. Talk to colleagues at work, let them know what is happening (you'd be surprised how many people would have come across this in their lives, even with siblings or parents), talk to friends, TELL THEM what is going in your marriage, they will be there for you and will listen, will help you.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,815 ✭✭✭lulu1


    OP get yourself away from this useless excuse of a man I know you are afraid of the future, but could it really be any worse than been put down every day you get up, before long it will cause you to fall into bad health. You have to do what's right for yourself and your child

    OP I feel that maybe you are making excuses
    My work is here My child loves their childminder
    He wont let me take the child anywhere My child will suffer

    You have 2 choices Stay with someone who treats you like
    Or go and make a happier life for you and your child. It wont be easy but at least you will have peace


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,055 ✭✭✭Emme


    OP you seem to have resigned yourself to the fact that you will have to stay with your abusive husband and continue turning yourself inside out for him and getting nothing but abuse for it as well. He may well be cheating on you too.

    If you wanted to stay with him and you had no children it would be your choice only. However you have a child and it is unfair to inflict that sort of a life on your child. If you stay your child will grow up thinking it's ok for women to be abused and treated badly. That has a terrible impact on them. Your child will suffer far far more if you stay with him.

    For the sake of your children you must leave him and start a new life. It would be far better for children to be brought up by a single mother than by with man like that hovering in the background giving orders, making constant criticism and doing nothing to help.

    Please take everyone's advice and talk to Women's Aid as soon as you can.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,214 ✭✭✭cbyrd


    See a solicitor first. Don't leave the family home, change the locks. Go see your local community welfare officer and get whatever you can to tide you over until you can get legal and proper maintenance.
    Emotionally, get this guy out of your life as much as possible. You are worth more than this and so is your child.
    Adultery is grounds for divorce, probably why he didn't want you telling anyone. So tell everyone.
    Take your life back.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,341 ✭✭✭tara73


    cbyrd wrote: »
    See a solicitor first. Don't leave the family home, change the locks. .


    don't do this, changing locks. it will not work in your favour, quite the opposite.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,326 ✭✭✭MartyMcFly84


    He sounds like an absolute d!ck.

    Leave him as soon as you can. Dont suffer alone.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 44 ellejola14


    Hi all,OP here. It's been a few weeks since I posted. I'm still in the house and my husband has moved upstairs as he wouldn't agree to move out. I'm currently trying to find somewhere else to go but financially i can't right now. I did go home for a couple of weeks but I had to return to my job. My husband is now acting like a completely different person and says he's trying to fix everything in the hope I'll change my mind that it's over. It's like the flick of a switch and to be truthful is playing havoc with my mind. He's capable of being nice to me and caring but has chosen not to for so long. I've been to counselling which is helping me come to terms with things but I've started to feel so guilty because I want to leave and I'm breaking up my family.
    I don't see my husband much, I'm usually in bed before he's home but the situation is unhealthy and I'm constantly anxious. It's just the way he's changed his attitude so dramatically that I can't get my head around.


  • Registered Users Posts: 684 ✭✭✭zapper55


    Of course he changed his attitude. He's manipulating you. He spent months and months emotionally abusing you. Understandably your head is wrecked that's his plan.

    I hope you talk to women's aid and soon. Please also remember that the time a woman leaves is the time she is at most risk from her partner. You need support you can't do this on your own no one could.

    What you don't see is that he wants you to feel stupid and worthless so you wont go anywhere. But you are far from that. And you are stronger than tou think.


  • Administrators Posts: 13,863 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Big Bag of Chips


    Any change he has made will most likely be short term. To reel you back in so that the threat of you leaving (and people knowing why) is lifted. I'd expect this to last a few weeks until he's confident you're going nowhere and then he'll slowly return to "normal" but with the added "I changed, did everything for you" etc. It's emotional abuse.

    He may change. People can. But he has had the ability to treat you so badly for so long. The change would need to be fairly dramatic. Does he work evenings? Why is he never home until you're in bed. Making changes and making an effort means being there with his family. Not just not being an arsehole for the short time he is there.

    Don't be pressured into anything. If you want to stay to see how it goes, of course that's what you should do. But if things go back to how they were, don't feel that because you made the choice to stay that you have to stick with that decision. It is not easy to walk away from a marriage. It can take years to build up to.

    Take care of yourself, and make the decisions that are best for you.

    Edit: by the way, if he hasnt stepped up as a father and is still preventing you from going places, then think of yourself as a single parent. If you want to go to the gym, get a babysitter in for an hour or so. Don't depend on him to be there. Because he uses it to manipulate you.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,595 ✭✭✭✭Exclamation Marc


    Echoing what Big Bag of Chips said, it's very easy for your husband to flick the switch while he's in panic mode to try and fix things but history speaks for itself and more likely than not he'll go back to his old ways if he's able to change your mind.

    Stay strong. Don't feel guilty about anything, you have to look after yourself and your children.


  • Registered Users Posts: 85 ✭✭sasal


    cbyrd wrote: »
    Adultery is grounds for divorce, probably why he didn't want you telling anyone. .

    In Ireland you don't need to provide grounds for divorce, only that you have lived apart for 4 years and there is no hope of reconciliation.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,122 ✭✭✭Idle Passerby


    Agree with the above. If he can decide to treat you with respect overnight, he is well aware his behaviour is in general below par. So if he knows its wrong and hurting you, why does he do it? Because he doesn't care about your happiness. Someone who feels inadequate and isolated is easier to manipulate.

    If you escape the situation he cant control you anymore and you might tell others he's not the nice guy he paints himself to be in everyday life. That's the only reason he's tip-toeing at the moment. And hes putting the bare minimum effort in even now by the sounds of it. You can disregard his promises, words are cheap.

    Have you told your family/friends about whats going on and how hes treated you/ You need people to lean on who will have your back when he inevitably turns nasty again.


  • Registered Users Posts: 44 ellejola14


    I've told my sister and 2 really good friends. All of which say to leave & don't look back.
    Husband says I'm holding on to anger and hurt from his affair which he has said never got physical. I can't get my head around that. How can you be in constant contact with another girl for almost 9 months calling each other pet names, sending pics , videos, goodnight, good morning messages and never have gotten physical??!!! Am I missing something? He's making me feel like I shouldn't be hurt from that. I admit that my feelings changed the day I found out, I no longer knew the person I was married too. The hurt he caused me by the deceit and becoming so emotionally involved is something I'll harbour forever. The trust disappeared that day and I've never looked at him the same since.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,122 ✭✭✭Idle Passerby


    ellejola14 wrote: »
    Husband says I'm holding on to anger and hurt from his affair which he has said never got physical. I can't get my head around that. How can you be in constant contact with another girl for almost 9 months calling each other pet names, sending pics , videos, goodnight, good morning messages and never have gotten physical??!!!

    Even if its true that it was never physical, it was a betrayal and it hurt you and changed your feelings towards your husband. Sounds like he's minimising your hurt which suggests again, that he's not all that remorseful, he just wants things to go back to normal as quick as possible.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,168 ✭✭✭Ursus Horribilis


    So why are you staying? Everybody - on this thread and in real life - is telling you to leave. It isn't going to get any better. Stop trying to find reasons for his behaviour. He does not love or respect you. You seem to be the only person who can't see that .


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  • Registered Users Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    ellejola14 wrote: »
    I've told my sister and 2 really good friends. All of which say to leave & don't look back.
    These are 3 people who love you and want the best for you. They haven't hurt you. They haven't treated you badly. You need to place the value of their words higher than the value of his.
    Husband says I'm holding on to anger and hurt from his affair which he has said never got physical.
    He's trying to get off on a "technicality". Think about that. He's basically saying that this is your fault because he's done nothing wrong.

    If you had absolute proof in your hands today, that it never got physical, would you go, "Oh that's OK then. He was only deeply intimate with this girl, shared deep thoughts and feelings, and teased eachother sexually. But he never stuck his dick in her, so everything's rosy"?

    No, you wouldn't. Whether it became physical or not is irrelevant.
    I admit that my feelings changed the day I found out, I no longer knew the person I was married too. The hurt he caused me by the deceit and becoming so emotionally involved is something I'll harbour forever. The trust disappeared that day and I've never looked at him the same since.
    Right. Read that again. He is not the person you thought you married. And he never will be.

    So it makes no sense to continue with the marriage. You wouldn't accept being married to any other stranger, so you don't have to accept this one either.

    All of the things about where to go, what to do, etc. Are practicalities. Small details that can be worked out. So long as you have somewhere to go where you and your child will be safe, everything else can be worked out.


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