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New 175 route......Information please?!

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  • Registered Users Posts: 896 ✭✭✭Bray Head


    Bray Head wrote: »
    I don't think GA will have a leg to stand on if they charge any ticket holder for travelling further than is permitted on a stage 1-3 fare.

    how do you figure that? DB don't provide the info on stop either. But neither of them dictate that anyway, it's down to the NTA.
    DB at least have a section on their website.


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 11,629 Mod ✭✭✭✭devnull


    Hearing that the launch has been delayed unfortunately whilst issues are worked out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,907 ✭✭✭Stephen15


    devnull wrote: »
    Hearing that the launch has been delayed unfortunately whilst issues are worked out.

    What are the issues? This isin't to do with the livery and the colour of the handrails is it?


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,922 ✭✭✭GM228


    Stephen15 wrote: »
    What are the issues? This isin't to do with the livery and the colour of the handrails is it?

    Someone in the NTA is crying "we need more yellow god damn it".


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,281 ✭✭✭Stevek101


    devnull wrote: »
    Hearing that the launch has been delayed unfortunately whilst issues are worked out.


    Looks like the 9th has been pulled from the website and timetable.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,638 ✭✭✭Qrt


    devnull wrote: »
    Hearing that the launch has been delayed unfortunately whilst issues are worked out.

    Source?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,281 ✭✭✭Stevek101


    GM228 wrote: »
    Someone in the NTA is crying "we need more yellow god damn it".


    Straight from the board minutes back in May

    The Board considered a proposal by a Board member that the NTA’s plans for a uniform livery for PSO bus services including Dublin Bus and Bus Éireann should be the subject of a further public consultation process, in which persons with disabilities would be actively involved. The Board concluded that the matter was one for the Executive rather than the Board and the proposal was not adopted


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,922 ✭✭✭GM228


    Stevek101 wrote: »
    Straight from the board minutes back in May

    And that all changed in July when the NTA did listen to disability groups and now have to repaint all the GA buses with ugly yellow fronts and interior yellow handrails.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,281 ✭✭✭Stevek101


    GM228 wrote: »
    And that all changed in July when the NTA did listen to disability groups and now have to repaint all the GA buses with ugly yellow fronts and interior yellow handrails.


    Supposedly the vehicle requirement for the 175 isn't that high, so surely they could do it quickly?

    I hope they are going back to the drawing board with the livery. That hybrid mess looked like a clear after thought.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,922 ✭✭✭GM228


    Stevek101 wrote: »
    That hybrid mess looked like a clear after thought.

    That is exactly what it is. A complete repaint would cost too much, they will simply add the yellow to them.

    Still have not seen what the second yellow option was though.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,281 ✭✭✭Stevek101


    It was bad enough SG333 getting a full repaint.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,907 ✭✭✭Stephen15


    Perhaps they could just be waiting to introduce the 175 when Go-Ahead take over the 45a, 59, 63, 75, 111, 184 and the 185 on the 7th October.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,281 ✭✭✭Stevek101


    Stephen15 wrote: »
    Perhaps they could just be waiting to introduce the 175 when Go-Ahead take over the 45a, 59, 63, 75, 111, 184 and the 185 on the 7th October.


    I guess they are lucky the move of DB services wasn't due to take place in September.


    Will GoAhead receive compensation for this delay in commencement of services?


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,922 ✭✭✭GM228


    Stevek101 wrote: »
    It was bad enough SG333 getting a full repaint.

    It wore the NTA colour as a demonstrator, and then got it's DB colours after the demonstration was finished.


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 11,629 Mod ✭✭✭✭devnull


    Stephen15 wrote: »
    Perhaps they could just be waiting to introduce the 175 when Go-Ahead take over the 45a, 59, 63, 75, 111, 184 and the 185 on the 7th October.

    They are still hoping for September.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,922 ✭✭✭GM228


    devnull wrote: »
    They are still hoping for September.

    That does not sound very encouraging!

    Question then is when in September?


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 11,629 Mod ✭✭✭✭devnull


    GM228 wrote: »
    That does not sound very encouraging!

    Question then is when in September?

    Unfortunately I do not have the answers to all the questions :)

    I've heard nothing to suggest it will not be September, but you can never be 100% sure.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,907 ✭✭✭Stephen15


    Stevek101 wrote: »
    Looks like the 9th has been pulled from the website and timetable.

    The 9th is still up on the GA website


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,907 ✭✭✭Stephen15


    Stevek101 wrote: »
    Will GoAhead receive compensation for this delay in commencement of services?

    Don't see why they would they will still be getting paid to run the service by the NTA even if the NTA decide not to run it


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,401 ✭✭✭dublinman1990


    That is unfortunate. What a shame that again the livery is now being subject to another public consultation. Now the disabled groups now will get a chance to have their own say on the issue.

    Have there been any more bus stops been installed after Goatstown by the NTA for the 175?


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  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 11,629 Mod ✭✭✭✭devnull


    That is unfortunate. What a shame that again the livery is now being subject to another public consultation. Now the disabled groups now will get a chance to have their own say on the issue.

    It isn't - that note was from back in May that another poster said - the NTA turned down the request for another consultation and said it's a matter for their executive.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,920 ✭✭✭dashcamdanny


    So will the now receive a fine if it is their own fault or is this down to one of the NTAs usaul blunder's?


  • Registered Users Posts: 745 ✭✭✭vectorvictor


    So will the now receive a fine if it is their own fault or is this down to one of the NTAs usaul blunder's?

    All systems go for the 9th
    Source: Go Ahead Twitter


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,922 ✭✭✭GM228




  • Registered Users Posts: 24,491 ✭✭✭✭Cookie_Monster


    Re stages knowledge being made available:
    Go Ahead wrote:
    There will be an online fares look up facility which will be provided by the NTA to enable users to calculate single fares - our website will link to this when it becomes available from the NTA.

    Our drivers will, of course, be happy to answer any fare queries on the bus and product knowledge training is being provided to all drivers, please let me know if this answers your questions, Angela

    Not really super helpful.


  • Registered Users Posts: 78,356 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    If there is one fundamental purpose of this route it is to get American college girls from UCD to the Dundrum Centre on a Sunday (route 17 doesn't run to UCD on Sunday).


  • Registered Users Posts: 68,505 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    If that's a financially viable service the NTA are remiss in only providing it now!


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,090 ✭✭✭✭Losty Dublin


    I saw a few 175's out today, all empty. It will take time but here's hoping that it will do well.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,907 ✭✭✭Stephen15


    I saw a few 175's out today, all empty. It will take time but here's hoping that it will do well.

    Not the only buses in Dublin running empty on a Sunday to be fair. Also it usually takes a few weeks before people start beginning to use a new bus route. Even when the 145 was first introduced a lot of people wouldn't use it as they weren't aware of where it was going and waited for a 45 or 46a instead.

    At least the destination blinds were working not very common when DB start out on a new route usually it took a few weeks before the destination boards were showing the correct destination on a new route although these problems were on the old dot matrix or roller blind buses which were probably harder to change.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,907 ✭✭✭Stephen15


    I think the real test for them will be from tommorrow. How will they cope getting the buses out of Ballymount and to their terminuses on time and how the 175 will cope with traffic and higher passenger volumes.


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