Czech culture and sex

Mike Hoch

Honest question here.

As we all know, Ireland's dalliances with the porn industry are so insanely rare that, of a country with a combined population of over 6 million, any film or series shot on the island, always by a foreign producer, actually prompts newspaper headlines. From your one from the Tallaght chipper in the relatively early days of our exposure to internet porn, the woman riding what she claimed are Gardai on film, to your scouser one touring Ireland riding GAA players and bank managers, our media engages in the type of, if not shock and revulsion, then certainty a level of scrutiny that surely no other Western nation would engage in, and probably hasn't since the 70s. Of all the Irish people to have starred in a pornographic film, the majority seem to have ended up on the front page of a newspaper out of the sheer rare novelty of it all.

The Czech Republic is only a few million people bigger than ourselves, and one tube site lists 879 porn stars, although I'd imagine there must be a few times more who have made the odd film rather than made a career out of it. You take a cursory look at any tube site, there are god knows how many videos of full on orgies and groups of men taking on one woman, featuring from accredited actresses to seemingly random women there for a laugh and a few quid, aged anywhere from 18 to 60 by the looks of it. Aside from one incident when the daughter of a PM (or president) was allegedly spotted in the background of an orgy in a non participating role, I take it this activity is of utter disinterest to the Czech media.

Out of curiosity I looked up one on Facebook who uses her stage name for FB,j and the page seems to combine her business life with her personal life. Alongside pixelated for FB shots of her before taking part in some orgy in Prague are photos of her going on holidays with her mother, taking what seems to be her niece to the zoo, tagging her father and sister in adoring happy birthday posts. The funny thing is, trawling through her friend list, they all seem to be at this. Page run under stage name, and most clearly have a regular relationship with family, friends and partners (some put up feckin wedding photos?!!?), all of whom are Facebook friends, despite their job being one that, I have little doubt, the vast majority of Irish families would utterly disown their kids for.

Even a cursory look at Escort Ireland reveals 19 Czechs working in this country. All fly in fly out I'd imagine- there seems to be feck all Czechs in Ireland. Their economy seems to be one of the healthier of the post communist ones, so the excuse of dire poverty doesn't to me seem to be a push factor into the industry like it might be elsewhere.

Of the circa 2.4 million Irish/ Northern women of legal age on this island, a total of 19 are working tonight. Most of them using pixelated pictures to hide their identity.

Does anyone know what the difference in Czech culture is? Is it really considered socially acceptable there to engage in whatever you see fits yourself best? I'm not pontificating about their lifestyle or their culture. I'm just wondering is Czech culture really more open to sex work as a career, or are these seemingly thousands of women a statistical anomaly?

Harry Palmr

It's not so much a Czech* thing it's an Irish thing. While the numbers vary you'll probably find Ireland is the real outlier along with the Vatican.






*they are fantastically good looking though so maybe they just can't help themselves.

jamesbere

I think we are more reserved when it comes to sex. Alot of that stems from the church and how it was not talked about in the media up to 20 years ago.

Europeans are more open to sex.

bear1

Mike Hoch wrote: »

Honest question here.

As we all know, Ireland's dalliances with the porn industry are so insanely rare that, of a country with a combined population of over 6 million, any film or series shot on the island, always by a foreign producer, actually prompts newspaper headlines. From your one from the Tallaght chipper in the relatively early days of our exposure to internet porn, the woman riding what she claimed are Gardai on film, to your scouser one touring Ireland riding GAA players and bank managers, our media engages in the type of, if not shock and revulsion, then certainty a level of scrutiny that surely no other Western nation would engage in, and probably hasn't since the 70s. Of all the Irish people to have starred in a pornographic film, the majority seem to have ended up on the front page of a newspaper out of the sheer rare novelty of it all.

The Czech Republic is only a few million people bigger than ourselves, and one tube site lists 879 porn stars, although I'd imagine there must be a few times more who have made the odd film rather than made a career out of it. You take a cursory look at any tube site, there are god knows how many videos of full on orgies and groups of men taking on one woman, featuring from accredited actresses to seemingly random women there for a laugh and a few quid, aged anywhere from 18 to 60 by the looks of it. Aside from one incident when the daughter of a PM (or president) was allegedly spotted in the background of an orgy in a non participating role, I take it this activity is of utter disinterest to the Czech media.

Out of curiosity I looked up one on Facebook who uses her stage name for FB,j and the page seems to combine her business life with her personal life. Alongside pixelated for FB shots of her before taking part in some orgy in Prague are photos of her going on holidays with her mother, taking what seems to be her niece to the zoo, tagging her father and sister in adoring happy birthday posts. The funny thing is, trawling through her friend list, they all seem to be at this. Page run under stage name, and most clearly have a regular relationship with family, friends and partners (some put up feckin wedding photos?!!?), all of whom are Facebook friends, despite their job being one that, I have little doubt, the vast majority of Irish families would utterly disown their kids for.

Even a cursory look at Escort Ireland reveals 19 Czechs working in this country. All fly in fly out I'd imagine- there seems to be feck all Czechs in Ireland. Their economy seems to be one of the healthier of the post communist ones, so the excuse of dire poverty doesn't to me seem to be a push factor into the industry like it might be elsewhere.

Of the circa 2.4 million Irish/ Northern women of legal age on this island, a total of 19 are working tonight. Most of them using pixelated pictures to hide their identity.

Does anyone know what the difference in Czech culture is? Is it really considered socially acceptable there to engage in whatever you see fits yourself best? I'm not pontificating about their lifestyle or their culture. I'm just wondering is Czech culture really more open to sex work as a career, or are these seemingly thousands of women a statistical anomaly?

Have you seen the women there?

Edgware

jamesbere wrote: »

I think we are more reserved when it comes to sex. Alot of that stems from the church and how it was not talked about in the media up to 20 years ago.

Europeans are more open to sex.

20 years ago was 1998. You probably didn't discuss it in the creche and now you just believe some gob****e you heard on R.T.E.

The Pheasant2

Probably something to do with Czech women being amongst the most beautiful I've seen in all my travels.

Fann Linn

Mike Hoch wrote: »

Honest question here.

As we all know, Ireland's dalliances with the porn industry are so insanely rare that, of a country with a combined population of over 6 million, any film or series shot on the island, always by a foreign producer, actually prompts newspaper headlines. From your one from the Tallaght chipper in the relatively early days of our exposure to internet porn, the woman riding what she claimed are Gardai on film, to your scouser one touring Ireland riding GAA players and bank managers, our media engages in the type of, if not shock and revulsion, then certainty a level of scrutiny that surely no other Western nation would engage in, and probably hasn't since the 70s. Of all the Irish people to have starred in a pornographic film, the majority seem to have ended up on the front page of a newspaper out of the sheer rare novelty of it all.

The Czech Republic is only a few million people bigger than ourselves, and one tube site lists 879 porn stars, although I'd imagine there must be a few times more who have made the odd film rather than made a career out of it. You take a cursory look at any tube site, there are god knows how many videos of full on orgies and groups of men taking on one woman, featuring from accredited actresses to seemingly random women there for a laugh and a few quid, aged anywhere from 18 to 60 by the looks of it. Aside from one incident when the daughter of a PM (or president) was allegedly spotted in the background of an orgy in a non participating role, I take it this activity is of utter disinterest to the Czech media.

Out of curiosity I looked up one on Facebook who uses her stage name for FB,j and the page seems to combine her business life with her personal life. Alongside pixelated for FB shots of her before taking part in some orgy in Prague are photos of her going on holidays with her mother, taking what seems to be her niece to the zoo, tagging her father and sister in adoring happy birthday posts. The funny thing is, trawling through her friend list, they all seem to be at this. Page run under stage name, and most clearly have a regular relationship with family, friends and partners (some put up feckin wedding photos?!!?), all of whom are Facebook friends, despite their job being one that, I have little doubt, the vast majority of Irish families would utterly disown their kids for.

Even a cursory look at Escort Ireland reveals 19 Czechs working in this country. All fly in fly out I'd imagine- there seems to be feck all Czechs in Ireland. Their economy seems to be one of the healthier of the post communist ones, so the excuse of dire poverty doesn't to me seem to be a push factor into the industry like it might be elsewhere.

Of the circa 2.4 million Irish/ Northern women of legal age on this island, a total of 19 are working tonight. Most of them using pixelated pictures to hide their identity.

Does anyone know what the difference in Czech culture is? Is it really considered socially acceptable there to engage in whatever you see fits yourself best? I'm not pontificating about their lifestyle or their culture. I'm just wondering is Czech culture really more open to sex work as a career, or are these seemingly thousands of women a statistical anomaly?

Links.

Gatling

Roll on Prague in January

Mike Hoch

The Pheasant2 wrote: »

Probably something to do with Czech women being amongst the most beautiful I've seen in all my travels.

Lebanese women are beautiful.

A significant amount would probably be found chopped up by their father's/ brother's hand if they engaged in this conduct.

soups05

third post in reply quotes lengthy OP....sigh.

regards the OP, you spend far too much time thinking of porn, get a partner lol.

AH response: wait, they get paid to be in them, they don't have to pay for the experience? Am ringing my producer dammit

dotsman

Not only are Europeans more open to sex, that particular Bohemian part of Europe - Germany, Austria, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Romania have a far healthier attitude to sex and nudity in general.

They simply cannot contemplate the numerous hang-ups that we have. We may no longer be active catholics, but the foundation for our social norms is still very rooted in a deep shame-filled conservative attitude to sex and nudity. We have made great progress and continue to do so, but it will probably take generations before we can completely shake off the legacy of our "sex and nudity are evil and shall not even be discussed, let alone tolerated" past.

Mike Hoch

soups05 wrote: »

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regards the OP, you spend far too much time thinking of porn, get a partner lol.

I have. I've better things to discuss with her than what I know about Czech porn and that I know escort Ireland even exists :pac::pac:

Outlaw Pete

"Ride me sideways" was another one.

begbysback

Pics?




Czech mate!

Poor Uncle Tom

Mike Hoch wrote: »

Ireland's dalliances with the porn industry are so insanely rare that,

The internet and porn.... what an odd combination.

Mike Hoch

dotsman wrote: »

Not only are Europeans more open to sex, that particular Bohemian part of Europe - Germany, Austria, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Romania have a far healthier attitude to sex and nudity in general.

They simply cannot contemplate the numerous hang-ups that we have. We may no longer be active catholics, but the foundation for our social norms is still very rooted in a deep shame-filled conservative attitude to sex and nudity. We have made great progress and continue to do so, but it will probably take generations before we can completely shake off the legacy of our "sex and nudity are evil and shall not even be discussed, let alone tolerated" past.

Owning your sex life on your terms is one thing. And yes, absolutely I'd agree that some, but by no means all, Irish women are prone to acting in a way abroad that they never would at home, such is their concern about word getting about the locale. Although I'd still say it's a lower percentage than Brits etc abroad.

But maintaining a regular relationship with a daughter who stars in videos which are titled with her stage name referring to her as whore, slut, skank, humiliated, trash etc, where she takes part in all manner of activity that wouldn't fall under the remit of straight old riding (having some geezers take a slash on them for one thing), when you log on to Facebook in the afternoon and she's posted a photo of herself and five geezers she's only just met who are going to run a train through her on film for the course of the afternoon for a couple of quid, as I said each to their own but there's few people from most societies who would be remotely comfortable with their sister or daughter taking part in such activity, yet it seems to be a live and let live attitude over there.

I'm just wondering why that is the case. It can't all be traditional secularism. Were Czechs really busy organising orgies to the same extent before the internet in the dark days of communism?

Ipso

dotsman wrote: »

Not only are Europeans more open to sex, that particular Bohemian part of Europe - Germany, Austria, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Romania have a far healthier attitude to sex and nudity in general.

They simply cannot contemplate the numerous hang-ups that we have. We may no longer be active catholics, but the foundation for our social norms is still very rooted in a deep shame-filled conservative attitude to sex and nudity. We have made great progress and continue to do so, but it will probably take generations before we can completely shake off the legacy of our "sex and nudity are evil and shall not even be discussed, let alone tolerated" past.

You're talking about the Valentines day Late Late show.

whisky_galore

I don't think native Irish porn will ever take off.

Mary and John from down the road, dressed in gear they got in the fancy dress shop grunting like farm animals... no thanks.

TheValeyard

whisky_galore wrote: »

I don't think native Irish porn will ever take off.

Mary and John from down the road, dressed in gear they got in the fancy dress shop grunting like farm animals... no thanks.

Probably a market for it.

Mike Hoch

bear1 wrote: »

Have you seen the women there?

I have. I was there around 12 years ago.

Some beauts, some very average. Like anywhere else really, including here.

The only place I've been where pretty much every woman seemed exceptional was Australia. They're real gym junkies, even most women in their 50's would be worth a go (it's getting that way here with the increase in gym culture and healthy living- growing up you'd struggle to think of any remotely attractive local women over 35, it was as if they gave up being bothered once they'd reached a certain age)

Sal Butamol

"Wait a minute, there's naked women on the internet getting the ride?"

Tom Cruise to Seth Rogan

Google it.

somesoldiers

There’s an Irish shemale does be riding the boyfriend on cams, Chloe or something, if you have a any good to ye?

Henry Ford III

I sometimes wonder what's behind the burkha? Just not for very long.

Malayalam

Poor Uncle Tom wrote: »

The internet and porn.... what an odd combination.

Not really for an OP with such a username

Visconti

Mike Hoch wrote: »

Honest question here.

As we all know, Ireland's dalliances with the porn industry are so insanely rare that, of a country with a combined population of over 6 million, any film or series shot on the island, always by a foreign producer, actually prompts newspaper headlines. From your one from the Tallaght chipper in the relatively early days of our exposure to internet porn, the woman riding what she claimed are Gardai on film, to your scouser one touring Ireland riding GAA players and bank managers, our media engages in the type of, if not shock and revulsion, then certainty a level of scrutiny that surely no other Western nation would engage in, and probably hasn't since the 70s. Of all the Irish people to have starred in a pornographic film, the majority seem to have ended up on the front page of a newspaper out of the sheer rare novelty of it all.

The Czech Republic is only a few million people bigger than ourselves, and one tube site lists 879 porn stars, although I'd imagine there must be a few times more who have made the odd film rather than made a career out of it. You take a cursory look at any tube site, there are god knows how many videos of full on orgies and groups of men taking on one woman, featuring from accredited actresses to seemingly random women there for a laugh and a few quid, aged anywhere from 18 to 60 by the looks of it. Aside from one incident when the daughter of a PM (or president) was allegedly spotted in the background of an orgy in a non participating role, I take it this activity is of utter disinterest to the Czech media.

Out of curiosity I looked up one on Facebook who uses her stage name for FB,j and the page seems to combine her business life with her personal life. Alongside pixelated for FB shots of her before taking part in some orgy in Prague are photos of her going on holidays with her mother, taking what seems to be her niece to the zoo, tagging her father and sister in adoring happy birthday posts. The funny thing is, trawling through her friend list, they all seem to be at this. Page run under stage name, and most clearly have a regular relationship with family, friends and partners (some put up feckin wedding photos?!!?), all of whom are Facebook friends, despite their job being one that, I have little doubt, the vast majority of Irish families would utterly disown their kids for.

Even a cursory look at Escort Ireland reveals 19 Czechs working in this country. All fly in fly out I'd imagine- there seems to be feck all Czechs in Ireland. Their economy seems to be one of the healthier of the post communist ones, so the excuse of dire poverty doesn't to me seem to be a push factor into the industry like it might be elsewhere.

Of the circa 2.4 million Irish/ Northern women of legal age on this island, a total of 19 are working tonight. Most of them using pixelated pictures to hide their identity.

Does anyone know what the difference in Czech culture is? Is it really considered socially acceptable there to engage in whatever you see fits yourself best? I'm not pontificating about their lifestyle or their culture. I'm just wondering is Czech culture really more open to sex work as a career, or are these seemingly thousands of women a statistical anomaly?

Reason for the porn industries is economy or lack of it, czec, bulgarian, Albanian, romanian etc
Was the girl riding the gaa guys not an Italian ?
Irish people gossip and bitch too much for porn or anything to take off.

pleas advice

Edgware wrote: »

20 years ago was 1998. You probably didn't discuss it in the creche and now you just believe some gob****e you heard on R.T.E.

there was no sex in Ireland before Gay Byrne

TheValeyard

pleas advice wrote: »

there was no sex in Ireland before Gay Byrne

Oliver J Flanagan?

Mike Hoch

Visconti wrote: »

Reason for the porn industries is economy or lack of it, czec, bulgarian, Albanian, romanian etc
Was the girl riding the gaa guys not an Italian ?
Irish people gossip and bitch too much for porn or anything to take off.

At one stage we had 15 percent unemployment, with many of the employed in dire straits. It didn't cause any seismic change.

The Czech Republic is not Moldova or Chechnya, by a long stretch.

PTH2009

How come a lot of eastern European Men and women are huge gym goers ????. It's all weightlifting to them

Boom_Bap

It's just like the football, the market here isn't great, so they go abroad for the money and riches.

Plus, who wants to hear Jacinta from Macroom trying to talk dirty to a pasty failed county star who still dreams of lifting Sam.



(no offence to any Jacinta's in Macroom)

imme

As I see it porn is exploitation.
It is easier to exploit poorer people.

Porn from Czech republic went from zero to off the scale when they became part of the 1st world.

The majority of escorts and illegal sex industry in Ireland is a result of people trafficking, exploitation and abuse.

In respect of gay porn, the number of Irish 'performers' might surprise the general population.

BoroMan32

A fair few google searches being conducted this evening involving the term Tallaght Chipper I'd have thought.

Visconti

Mike Hoch wrote: »

At one stage we had 15 percent unemployment, with many of the employed in dire straits. It didn't cause any seismic change.

The Czech Republic is not Moldova or Chechnya, by a long stretch.

Thats because we have a plush welfare system where people do ok. Compare that to spain, italy, greece etc never mind romania, albania etc
Irish people cant grasp what its like to be in a country where there is no welfare.
People are forced into porn and prostitution like many Irish women were when they arrived in England or America during the famine. Its sad but its true.

lawred2

bear1 wrote: »

Have you seen the women there?

Implicit in that question is "have you seen the women here!?"

Hector Bellend

One of my favourite porn stars is from the Czech Republic.

She's in her forties and she still looks fab.

Beechwoodspark

So is poverty the main cause

Mike Hoch

imme wrote: »

The majority of escorts and illegal sex industry in Ireland is a result of people trafficking, exploitation and abuse.

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Ah heeyor :pac::pac::pac::pac:

Sex trafficking was exposed as an urban myth years ago.

Logically, why would someone have to trick a girl with legit work and then hold a her prisoner when so many Czech women see sex as a normal income stream?

Absolutely illogical.

Mike Hoch

BoroMan32 wrote: »

A fair few google searches being conducted this evening involving the term Tallaght Chipper I'd have thought.

It looks like it was filmed on a Nokia in 2005, such is the quality of it.

For Forks Sake

whisky_galore wrote: »

I don't think native Irish porn will ever take off.

Mary and John from down the road, dressed in gear they got in the fancy dress shop grunting like farm animals... no thanks.

BorneTobyWilde

You'd find every nationality on Chaturbate, you won't find Mick & Mary though.

dotsman

imme wrote: »

As I see it porn is exploitation.
It is easier to exploit poorer people.

Porn from Czech republic went from zero to off the scale when they became part of the 1st world.

The majority of escorts and illegal sex industry in Ireland is a result of people trafficking, exploitation and abuse.

In respect of gay porn, the number of Irish 'performers' might surprise the general population.

What a crock. People like you really need to get out more.

fryup

it all started with the Child of Prague

whisky_galore

Murray TheDemonic TalkingSkull wrote: »

Probably a market for it.

A Co-Operative mart perhaps.

imme

dotsman wrote: »

What a crock. People like you really need to get out more.

What is the crock of **** here,
Porn in the Czech republic; illegal sex industry in Ireland and people trafficking; gay porn

??

Once again a thread where there's more hangups about Irish people allegedly having hangups about sex than there are Irish people who actually have hangups about sex.

Trace this stereotype back and you'll find it rooted in a standard anti-Catholic WASP perception of the Irish as being sexually repressed. Well done to every Irish person who internalises all their prejudices.

Lastly, one can be sexually liberal without going on about sex in conversations all the time like a 13-year-old boy. I'd rather not know the inner details of somebody else's sex life, thank you very much. If this preference is a sign of a "typically repressed Irish Catholic" it still sounds better than "I talk about sex all the time and this shows I'm so cutting edge".

dotsman

imme wrote: »

What is the crock of **** here,
Porn in the Czech republic; illegal sex industry in Ireland and people trafficking; gay porn

??

Um, the entire post???

Star Bingo

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

You'd find every nationality on Chaturbate, you won't find Mick & Mary though.

Them kazakh girls blow the borat stereotype out of the water

The Crowman

I came across an amatuer porn video some time back of a traveller wan having sex with a Dublin skanger fella in a hotel room while his buddies were cheering them on. Erotic it wasn't.

Ipso

Deleted User wrote: »

Once again a thread where there's more hangups about Irish people allegedly having hangups about sex than there are Irish people who actually have hangups about sex.

Trace this stereotype back and you'll find it rooted in a standard anti-Catholic WASP perception of the Irish as being sexually repressed. Well done to every Irish person who internalises all their prejudices.

Lastly, one can be sexually liberal without going on about sex in conversations all the time like a 13-year-old boy. I'd rather not know the inner details of somebody else's sex life, thank you very much. If this preference is a sign of a "typically repressed Irish Catholic" it still sounds better than "I talk about sex all the time and this shows I'm so cutting edge".

Exactly, wouldn't Jay from the inbetweeners should be the antithesis of repressed catholic Ireland?

Star Bingo

Who wants to see us exposed like that anyway should just leave it to the beautiful people with barely two cents to rub together let them at it

I guarantee you the people who look for it and come up short are only left with an admiration anyway, it’s our virtue best leave it so.

JupiterKid

I've been to Prague twice - in 1999 and 2010 and the women there are stunning. Really head turning - nearly (but not quite!!) hot enough to turn me straight...

Some of the younger men are very good looking too - the older guys, not so much - beer bellies galore!

It's the combination of a mix of Slavic with strong Germanic influences - good genes and looking after themselves well. Yes, many countries in Central and Northern Europe - Germany and the Nordic countries in particular - are more liberal and relaxed with respect to sex and nudity etc. Ireland is catching up - but there was an awful lot of catching up to do.

One interesting thing is that the Czech republic records the highest percentage of people in the world who consider themselves to have no religious beliefs in their census. Whereas Ireland still records a majority "nominal" Catholic affiliation. I don't think that's a coincidence. There is an inverse relationship between religion and sexual freedom.

Nearly all porn stars have stage names and for good reason - many if not most don't want their families knowing but that is changing. There is a degree of exploitation in porn - especially hetero porn - but many porn "actors" do porn as a sideline and have other areas of work. Not all porn stars are escorts. And most porn stars have a limited shelf life. One former gay porn star in the US is now a microbiologist with peer reviewed academic publications. Go figure.

Lingering prudery plays a role in why Irish porn has never taken off - but I think it's more down to the fact that we're a small country and people would know if someone close to them was in porn and the gossip plus the fact that Ireland is just not seen as a "sexy" place to do a porn flick compared to, say, California or the Greek Islands.

Riding on the bonnet of a Beemer in the drizzle of Longford just doesnt have quite the same appeal as doing the deed by an azure infinity pool in Mykonos or Malibu.