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President Michael D Higgins’ €3,000 a night hotel stays

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    #62
    Keepaneye
    Closed Accounts Posts: 91 ✭✭Keepaneye


    Like I said before, the mountain of morons that inhabit this country deserve the politicians they vote for. This guy is the biggest champagne socialist I've ever seen in any capacity.


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    #63
    PlaneSpeeking
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5,106 ✭✭✭PlaneSpeeking


    ArchXStanton wrote: »
    No,but I'd be pretty pissed off with paying such exorbitant taxes and government not fulfilling their side of the deal/social contract.Its not acceptable

    I'm pissed off paying my taxes and them going to fund those who do not contribute - but apparently we can do nothing but cough up.


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    #64
    Annasopra
    Registered Users Posts: 40,924 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    DickSwiveller Returns wrote: »
    The man is a charlatan. Because he looks and speaks like a Teletubby we are all supposed to think he's great. The incessant fawning from journalists is becoming disturbing at this stage. Why does the avowed socialist need the huge salary he's on? No doubt he has a few pensions from his time in the D. Just get rid of the presidency and put an end to this circus

    He took a voluntary pay cut of 75,000 a year and does not currently draw down his Dail Pension.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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    #65
    ifElseThen
    Closed Accounts Posts: 348 ✭✭ifElseThen


    Snout. Trough.


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    #66
    Earleybird
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    dudara wrote: »
    Prices in Switzerland can be extremely expensive. Pizzas for dinner can cost €40-50. So likewise a room in a 5* hotel for a country’s president will be also expensive.

    Not defending excessive expenditure here, but putting it into a bit of context.

    And he ordered a pizza as well!?! How dare he eat when there are starving kids back home!


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    #67
    Hande hoche!
    Registered Users Posts: 7,508 ✭✭✭Hande hoche!


    mikemac2 wrote: »
    Is Craughwell going to stand on the sidelines sniping for the next three months?
    Well there will be frequent breaks, to pat himself on the back for helping to foster democracy...


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    #68
    RobertKK
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    PlaneSpeeking wrote: »
    So where should the head of the country stayed ? The Geneva Premier Inn ???

    I looked up 5 star hotels in Geneva and one could pay a small fraction of the price.
    If people think that all 5 star hotels in Geneva are €3,000 a night then they need to look it up. A lot around the €400 a night, some much cheaper and other more expensive, but not anywhere near the price of where Michael D stayed.


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    #69
    xi5yvm0owc1s2b
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    DickSwiveller Returns wrote: »
    He's in his 80s and doesn't need the fat salary he's on or the huge expenses.

    He's actually 77, but the rest of your point is accurate. The large salary, the €3,000-per-night hotel stays, and his use of the government jet to fly to football matches and poetry readings make his "man of the left" shtick ring hollow.


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    #70
    DickSwiveller Returns
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    Joeytheparrot wrote: »
    He took a voluntary pay cut of 75,000 a year and does not currently draw down his Dail Pension.

    He's paid 250,000 a year. Does he have a teachers pension too?


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    #71
    DickSwiveller Returns
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    Ash.J.Williams wrote: »
    does anyone need the money they're on?

    Well, he's a public servant, so everyone else his paying his salary. I don't understand why he needs 250,000 when he has pensions etc.


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    #72
    super_furry
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    This thread reminds of that old saying about the people who know the price of everything and the value of nothing.


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    #73
    DEFTLEFTHAND
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    The Swiss socialist party should have put him up at one of their bunkhouses.

    It's a crying shame when a man is forced to sell out his principles like this.


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    #74
    Lux23
    Registered Users Posts: 7,134 ✭✭✭Lux23


    Luka Broad Bassist wrote: »
    His fawning tribute to the dictator Fidel Castro was a complete embarrassment to the country.

    I wouldn't agree.


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    #75
    Edgware
    Registered Users Posts: 5,875 ✭✭✭Edgware


    Posters will have to accept that our betters (Socialists or not) deserve to be treated with respect and that our taxes could not be better spent. Robinson McAlleese Higgjns etc are well able to bleed the system while spouting ****e about equality and "having a national conversation" about the greed of the capitalist system


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    #76
    Keepaneye
    Closed Accounts Posts: 91 ✭✭Keepaneye


    Lux23 wrote: »
    I wouldn't agree.

    You got the example you were looking for and thats your response. How surprising.

    How about you list what difference he has made?


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    #77
    RobertKK
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    I found rooms in the same hotel for two people for €435 a night, it is only when one wants to really pamper themselves does the price rise into the thousands as wasted on our president.
    It is always nice to get pampered when someone else is paying...


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    #78
    xi5yvm0owc1s2b
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    Lux23 wrote: »
    I wouldn't agree.

    The president's sycophantic eulogy, which called Castro a "giant among global leaders" and made no mention of the numerous executions of dissidents and other human rights abuses that took place under his long dictatorship, was rightly ridiculed around the world. It cast Ireland in a very negative light, and was most definitely seen as an embarrassment by many.


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    #79
    kilns
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    Irish people sure known how to complain.  Its Geneva where you would struggle to get a 2 star hotel for 200 a night.  what do you expect, go on Air BNB and get a deal?
    Its probably the same people who complained about paying their water bills and giving out about Irish water and are now complaining about hose pipe bans.
    Honestly, the country is full of moaners


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    #80
    Thud
    Registered Users Posts: 2,547 ✭✭✭Thud


    Suites there are €3k a night but you can get a room there for €520, maybe he was upgraded.

    https://www.trivago.ie/?aDateRange%5Barr%5D=2018-08-24&aDateRange%5Bdep%5D=2018-08-25&aPriceRange%5Bto%5D=0&aPriceRange%5Bfrom%5D=0&iPathId=48050&aGeoCode%5Blat%5D=46.20919&aGeoCode%5Blng%5D=6.149954&iGeoDistanceItem=16231&iGeoDistanceLimit=20000&aCategoryRange=0%2C1%2C2%2C3%2C4%2C5&aOverallLiking=1%2C2%2C3%2C4%2C5&sOrderBy=relevance%20desc&bTopDealsOnly=false&iRoomType=7&cpt=1623102&iIncludeAll=0&iViewType=0&bIsSeoPage=false&bIsSitemap=false&


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    #81
    PlaneSpeeking
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    RobertKK wrote: »
    I found rooms in the same hotel for two people for €435 a night, it is only when one wants to really pamper themselves does the price rise into the thousands as wasted on our president.
    It is always nice to get pampered when someone else is paying...

    Then bon voyage!


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    #82
    PlaneSpeeking
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    Thud wrote: »
    Suites there are €3k a night but you can get a room there for €520, maybe he was upgraded.

    https://www.trivago.ie/?aDateRange%5Barr%5D=2018-08-24&aDateRange%5Bdep%5D=2018-08-25&aPriceRange%5Bto%5D=0&aPriceRange%5Bfrom%5D=0&iPathId=48050&aGeoCode%5Blat%5D=46.20919&aGeoCode%5Blng%5D=6.149954&iGeoDistanceItem=16231&iGeoDistanceLimit=20000&aCategoryRange=0%2C1%2C2%2C3%2C4%2C5&aOverallLiking=1%2C2%2C3%2C4%2C5&sOrderBy=relevance%20desc&bTopDealsOnly=false&iRoomType=7&cpt=1623102&iIncludeAll=0&iViewType=0&bIsSeoPage=false&bIsSitemap=false&

    Perhaps he had a suite for the protection detail, that's normal.


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    #83
    Mutant z
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    No one does hypocrisy quite like Michael D.


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    #84
    Edgware
    Registered Users Posts: 5,875 ✭✭✭Edgware


    Luka Broad Bassist wrote: »
    The president's sycophantic eulogy, which called Castro a "giant among global leaders" and made no mention of the numerous executions of dissidents and other human rights abuses that took place under his long dictatorship, was rightly ridiculed around the world. It cast Ireland in a very negative light, and was most definitely seen as an embarrassment by many.

    The people executed werent dissidents They were "enemies of the proletariat"


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    #85
    Yer Da sells Avon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,737 ✭✭✭Yer Da sells Avon


    I'm a big fan of Miggledy Higgins, and I find that most of his detractors are the kind of right-wing bores who have horrible opinions about everything and will never be happy.

    However...

    Why shouldn't he stay in a budget hotel?


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    #86
    Hitman3000
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    Yer Da sells Avon wrote:
    Why shouldn't he stay in a budget hotel?


    Budget hotels are for the plebs, not champagne socialists.


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    #87
    dirtyden
    Registered Users Posts: 1,731 ✭✭✭dirtyden


    super_furry wrote: »
    This thread reminds of that old saying about the people who know the price of everything and the value of nothing.

    Explain what you mean by that?

    Put a value on Higgins attending Castro’s funeral?

    Put a value on him attending this international labour convention?


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    #88
    Mebuntu
    Registered Users Posts: 911 ✭✭✭Mebuntu


    seamus wrote: »
    Sure, let's just stick him into a shared dorm in a hostel then, what's the worst that can happen?

    There's overkill, like driving around in an armor-plated car with 12-inch doors, and then there's good sense, like minimising the number of people on the same floor as the president.

    The president of any EU country is a potential target for any lone fringe loony, no matter how soft a target they may be. No need to make it easy for them.
    To be fair, it's always the expensive/luxury hotels that are targetted.


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    #89
    flookdgates
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    The media enforced censorship over this man's personal life is ridiculous. Why can't we mention the big gay elephant in the room?

    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/apology-as-forbes-withdraws-homosexual-claim-about-president-michael-d-higgins-29443643.html


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    #90
    Yer Da sells Avon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,737 ✭✭✭Yer Da sells Avon


    flookdgates wrote: »
    The media enforced censorship over this man's personal life is ridiculous. Why can't we mention the big gay elephant in the room?

    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/apology-as-forbes-withdraws-homosexual-claim-about-president-michael-d-higgins-29443643.html

    Probably because there's no evidence whatsoever that he's gay.


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    #91
    flookdgates
    Site Banned Posts: 67 ✭✭flookdgates


    Yer Da sells Avon wrote: »
    Probably because there's no evidence whatsoever that he's gay.

    Lol you obviously don't rub shoulders with Ireland's political class.
    Here's a question for you: Did you know that Varadkar was gay before he officially came out of the closet to RTE?


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