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William hill St Ledger 2018

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    #32
    votecounts
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    Kew Gardens


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    #33
    CH3OH
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    I would love to see Ryan getting a bit excited and have a little smile☺ and i backed him (apologies for aftertiming!)


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    #34
    UrbanFret
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    Terrible ride from Dettori there. He was so far out of his ground .


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    #35
    TheMilkyPirate
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    UrbanFret wrote: »
    Terrible ride from Dettori there. He was so far out of his ground .

    He was a bit far back but it's the horses inexperience that cost her if anything


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    UrbanFret
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    TheMilkyPirate wrote: »
    He was a bit far back but it's the horses inexperience that cost her if anything

    All the more reason to have her handy. She eas still rolling at the finish, plenty left Id say.


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    #37
    Johner
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    Best horse won, I thought Kew Gardens did it nicely. I wouldn't be backing the filly to reverse form.


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    #38
    tryfix
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    The ITV crew are ridiculous in their fawning over Lah Ti Dar, she lost to a decent stayer. There weren't two exceptional horses fighting out the finish and you can be damn sure that if Kew Gardens had finished as far back in 2nd as LTD did there'd have been no talk about two exceptional horses.


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    #39
    kiers47
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    The best horse won and I was a critic of Kew gardens prior to the race.
    The trip was the undoing of Lah Ti Dar. Thought it was an average enough race tbh.


    Watched that race again. Not sure how anyone can think the filly should have won.


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    #40
    tryfix
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    kiers47 wrote: »
    The best horse won and I was a critic of Kew gardens prior to the race.
    The trip was the undoing of Lah Ti Dar. Thought it was an average enough race tbh.


    Watched that race again. Not sure how anyone can think the filly should have won.
    I don't think it was, she was staying on well in 2nd and pulling away from a pack of solid stayers at the line.



    My take on her would be that York racecourse produces big margin wins in pattern middle-distance races there that don't translate into equally impressive form when the wide margin winners step up into the really big races elsewhere. She won a listed race there and the hype machine went into overdrive because of her breeding and stable connections. She had been elevated to Arc winner in waiting despite having never contested a Gp1 race in her life.

    As far I read the race today she was going best in the last two furlongs but she met a better horse than herself. Take Kew Gardens out and people would have been raving about how easily she won the race. I think she's more of a solid Coronet type rather the Enable type she was hyped as.

    It was one of the better Legers of recent times, the time was fast and the field was packed with plenty of OR 110-117 type horses who were well beaten by the winner.


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    antietam
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    UrbanFret wrote: »
    Terrible ride from Dettori there. He was so far out of his ground .
    Absolute crap,2.4f out have at look at the filly never made any progress against the winner.She passed 3m chasers but the third horse is of very very serious interest going forward.Based on breeding HOW could the filly stay, explain.


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    UrbanFret
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    antietam wrote: »
    Absolute crap,2.4f out have at look at the filly never made any progress against the winner.She passed 3m chasers but the third horse is of very very serious interest going forward.Based on breeding HOW could the filly stay, explain.

    Breedings not an exact science though is it? She stays all right and if,and I doubt they ever will, meet again she'll reverse the form no doubt about it.


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    #43
    akelly02
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    UrbanFret wrote: »
    Breedings not an exact science though is it? She stays all right and if,and I doubt they ever will, meet again she'll reverse the form no doubt about it.

    To say no doUbt about it is a bit ridiculous


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    #44
    Inion An Ri
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    The runner-up had her ground to suit, the winner didn't. Kew Gardens is a much better horse on fast ground, the faster the better for him.


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    #45
    longshotvalue
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    I though the winner was very impressive. Hands and heels all the way, beat a very good horse. Wouldn't mind seeing him in the Arc.


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    #46
    Auroras_encore
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    Thought la ti dar just couldn't go as quick as the winner during the race, she was doing her best work at the end


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    #47
    The Tetrarch
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    diomed wrote: »
    Kew Gardens 86.70 €157.43 €13,491.67
    I knew I backed Kew Gardens in the Derby. I just can't believe the price (85/1).


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