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"Man-made" Climate Change Lunathicks Out in Full Force

  • 28-07-2018 9:42pm
    #1
    Creative83
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  • #2
    looksee
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    Grand so.


  • #3
    WesternZulu
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    Creative83 wrote: »
    It is all bull**** and speculation of course. Nobody has the balls in that community to come forward and actually say that there is no problem

    Where are the scientific facts to support your argument?


  • #4
    ancapailldorcha
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    WesternZulu wrote: »
    Where are the scientific facts to support your argument?

    Who needs facts when you have feelings.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • #5
    dudara
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    Can you provide your academic credentials or research to support your claims?


  • #6
    Creative83
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    WesternZulu wrote: »
    Where are the scientific facts to support your argument?


    I could provide with a temperature guideline over the past 2,000 years I think... but it wouldn't fit your narrative so I wont do it


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  • #7
    Junkyard Tom
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    Fly close to the Sun thIcarus, you'll be grand.


  • #8
    Creative83
    Closed Accounts Posts: 353 ✭✭Creative83


    dudara wrote: »
    Can you provide your academic credentials or research to support your claims?


    It is sad to see that you have been taken in, hook line and sinker


  • #9
    WinnyThePoo
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    Creative83 wrote: »
    It is sad to see that you have been taken in, hook line and sinker

    What are your credentials apart from your feelings.


  • #10
    Creative83
    Closed Accounts Posts: 353 ✭✭Creative83


    ancapailldorcha wrote: »
    Who needs facts when you have feelings.


    Your hero, Al Gore... what did he say would happen in ten years from 2003?


  • #11
    Canis Lupus
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    Someone had one to many drinky winkys tonight?


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  • #12
    Yer Da sells Avon
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    "97% of the world's climate scientists are wrong about their own field of expertise, and I, an ill-educated, over-confident right-wing man, am right"


  • #13
    jjpep
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    I remember when trolls actually used to make an effort.


  • #14
    dav3
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    I think we've found Danny Healy-Rae's account.


  • #15
    Twenty Grand
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    Over 97% of scientists believe in climate change, and that humanity will certainly suffer unimaginably if we do nothing.

    What does it cost any of us to put measures in place to stop it happening?


  • #16
    Canis Lupus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,893 ✭✭✭Canis Lupus


    Hapax Legomenon wrote: »
    "97% of the world's climate scientists are wrong about their own field of expertise, and I, an ill-educated, over-confident right-wing man, am right"

    most of the leading scientific organizations worldwide have issued public statements endorsing this position.

    But what do they know really vs some videos I watched on youtube done by a random guy.


  • #17
    DickSwiveller Returns
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    Hapax Legomenon wrote: »
    "97% of the world's climate scientists are wrong about their own field of expertise, and I, an ill-educated, over-confident right-wing man, am right"

    The 97 per cent figure has been debunked many times. It was a survey of a tiny few scientists and many didb't even reply.


  • #18
    DickSwiveller Returns
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    https://www.forbes.com/sites/alexepstein/2015/01/06/97-of-climate-scientists-agree-is-100-wrong/#5eabc3f33f9f


  • #19
    DickSwiveller Returns
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    Climate change has become one of the causes that the liberal left have attached themselves to. Like most issues these people become attached to it has become a sort of cult. Anyone who even questions the consensus is labelled a 'denier' There are climate scientists in top US colleges who complain that funding is only given to scientists who accept human caused climate change and some are even afraid to voice their opinion for fear of the backlash.


  • #20
    Creative83
    Closed Accounts Posts: 353 ✭✭Creative83


    Hapax Legomenon wrote: »
    "97% of the world's climate scientists are wrong about their own field of expertise, and I, an ill-educated, over-confident right-wing man, am right"

    Yep, because they are employed to prove it.... any contrary opinion is hounded out


  • #21
    Annasopra
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    WesternZulu wrote: »
    Where are the scientific facts to support your argument?

    There is none.

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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  • #22
    jackboy
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    Twenty Grand wrote: »

    What does it cost any of us to put measures in place to stop it happening?

    We can stop human causes of climate change but we cannot stop natural causes of climate change. There will always be massive climate change and there is nothing we can do about it.


  • #23
    WinnyThePoo
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    DickSwiveller Returns wrote: »
    The 97 per cent figure has been debunked many times. It was a survey of a tiny few scientists and many didb't even reply.

    Did you find that out on a ten minute youtube video?


  • #24
    The_Kew_Tour
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,460 ✭✭✭✭The_Kew_Tour


    When will world end?

    That is the question!


  • #25
    Sweetemotion
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    Canis Lupus wrote: »
    most of the leading scientific organizations worldwide have issued public statements endorsing this position.

    But what do they know really vs some videos I watched on youtube done by a random guy.

    Listen from 2:30 minute mark.



  • #26
    DickSwiveller Returns
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  • #27
    Annasopra
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    Creative83 wrote: »
    Yep, because they are employed to prove it.... any contrary opinion is hounded out

    Often because it is quite faulty

    https://qz.com/1069298/the-3-of-scientific-papers-that-deny-climate-change-are-all-flawed/

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • #28
    Harry Palmr
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    Creative83 wrote: »
    With our recent heatwave... the "top scientists", best in the world apparently... are now predicting doom on a biblical level.

    It is all bull**** and speculation of course. Nobody has the balls in that community to come forward and actually say that there is no problem.

    Funny thing is that these guys would protest a Nuclear power plant in a heartbeat, apparently not smart enough to relise that nuclear energy is the way forward!!!

    Do you know why the northern hemisphere is currently on fire? If the answer is no then you are not fit to challenge climate change.


  • #29
    DickSwiveller Returns
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    WinnyThePoo wrote: »
    Did you find that out on a ten minute youtube video?

    No, I like questioning things rather than attaching myself to causes that are currently fashionable. Read the link I sent. he explains why it's horse****


  • #30
    2011
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    Even those that have the view that we have no significant impact on climate change accept that fossil fuels are finite. So once they are used up how are we to turn the lights on if we don’t invest in renewable energy?


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  • #31
    DickSwiveller Returns
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    Harry Palmr wrote: »
    Do you know why the northern hemisphere is currently on fire? If the answer is no then you are not fit to challenge climate change.

    Weather and climate are 2 different things.


  • #32
    ancapailldorcha
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    Creative83 wrote: »
    Your hero, Al Gore... what did he say would happen in ten years from 2003?

    The tone of your posts suggests otherwise and I really, really should know better than to ask but have you any facts at all to support your argument? Randomers in Youtube videos do not count. I mean actual Geographical, Geological or Meteorological evidence that's been published in peer-reviewed journals.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • #33
    DickSwiveller Returns
    Closed Accounts Posts: 752 ✭✭✭DickSwiveller Returns


    ancapailldorcha wrote: »
    The tone of your posts suggests otherwise and I really, really should know better than to ask but have you any facts at all to support your argument? Randomers in Youtube videos do not count. I mean actual Geographical, Geological or Meteorological evidence that's been published in peer-reviewed journals.

    Do you?


  • #34
    Harry Palmr
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    DickSwiveller Returns wrote: »
    Weather and climate are 2 different things.

    I know that but I ask the question for a reason.


  • #35
    Subcomandante Marcos
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    Creative83 wrote: »
    It is sad to see that you have been taken in, hook line and sinker

    What are your credentials?

    What's your publication impact? What area of research do you specialise in?


  • #36
    2011
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    Creative83 wrote: »
    It is sad to see that you have been taken in, hook line and sinker

    So what’s the plan when all the fossil fuels are used up?


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  • #37
    Twenty Grand
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    DickSwiveller Returns wrote: »
    The 97 per cent figure has been debunked many times. It was a survey of a tiny few scientists and many didb't even reply.
    If it's not 97% then what is it then? Reliable source please.
    DickSwiveller Returns wrote: »
    Climate change has become one of the causes that the liberal left have attached themselves to. Like most issues these people become attached to it has become a sort of cult. Anyone who even questions the consensus is labelled a 'denier' There are climate scientists in top US colleges who complain that funding is only given to scientists who accept human caused climate change and some are even afraid to voice their opinion for fear of the backlash.
    Proof please?
    Creative83 wrote: »
    Yep, because they are employed to prove it.... any contrary opinion is hounded out
    Employed by who exactly?


  • #38
    Creative83
    Closed Accounts Posts: 353 ✭✭Creative83


    ancapailldorcha wrote: »
    The tone of your posts suggests otherwise and I really, really should know better than to ask but have you any facts at all to support your argument? Randomers in Youtube videos do not count. I mean actual Geographical, Geological or Meteorological evidence that's been published in peer-reviewed journals.

    Whatever, listen, you take it up the arse... carbon taxes and all of this bull****.


  • #39
    Canis Lupus
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    DickSwiveller Returns wrote: »
    Do you?

    https://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/


  • #40
    WinnyThePoo
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    DickSwiveller Returns wrote: »
    No, I like questioning things rather than attaching myself to causes that are currently fashionable. Read the link I sent. he explains why it's horse****

    Climate change isnt fashionable. next.


  • #41
    Thoughtform
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    "The left believe it" is not valid reason to deny it. Forget about obsessing over where on the political divide people occupy and do some research. "It's all bollocks because I don't want to believe it" isn't a counter-argument either.

    I'm not particularly left-wing, and I hope it's not the case - and maybe it isn't (I am allowing for doubt) but I can't deny the evidence either.


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  • #42
    DickSwiveller Returns
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    Twenty Grand;107644217]If it's not 97% then what is it then? Reliable source please.

    I've no idea what it is, but, like the gender pay gap, the 97 figure is 100 per cent bull.
    Proof please?
    https://www.nationalreview.com/2015/02/global-warming-follow-money-henry-payne/


  • #43
    DickSwiveller Returns
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    Thoughtform wrote: »
    "The left believe it" is not valid reason to deny it. Forget about obsessing over where on the political divide people occupy and do some research. "It's all bollocks because I don't want to believe it" isn't a counter-argument either.

    I'm wary of cults, and people who get very attached to issues to the point that they can't bear any dissent. Why do people who have no idea about climate express such certainty that man made climate change is real? Are we allowed question it?


  • #44
    WinnyThePoo
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    DickSwiveller Returns wrote: »
    I've no idea what it is, but, like the gender pay gap, the 97 figure is 100 per cent bull.


    https://www.nationalreview.com/2015/02/global-warming-follow-money-henry-payne/

    So the 97 percent figure is bull because something completely irrelevant you think is bull also.

    So we've got

    You like to do your own research
    Climate change is fashionable
    Something about gender pay gap


  • #45
    Twenty Grand
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    WinnyThePoo wrote: »
    So the 97 percent figure is bull because something completely irrelevant you think is bull also.

    So we've got

    You like to do your own research
    Climate change is fashionable
    Something about gender pay gap

    Also add the author of the National Review article he linked is a cartoonist with no more experience in climate change than myself.


  • #46
    DickSwiveller Returns
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    WinnyThePoo wrote: »
    So the 97 percent figure is bull because something completely irrelevant you think is bull also.

    So we've got

    You like to do your own research
    Climate change is fashionable
    Something about gender pay gap

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/alexepstein/2015/01/06/97-of-climate-scientists-agree-is-100-wrong/#5eabc3f33f9f

    He completely debunks the propoganda


  • #47
    ancapailldorcha
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    DickSwiveller Returns wrote: »
    Do you?

    I didn't start the thread nor make any of the claims.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • #48
    jaxxx
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    Can I place a wager that the OP is a flat Earther?


  • #49
    Twenty Grand
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    DickSwiveller Returns wrote: »
    https://www.forbes.com/sites/alexepstein/2015/01/06/97-of-climate-scientists-agree-is-100-wrong/#5eabc3f33f9f

    He completely debunks the propoganda
    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/climate-consensus-97-per-cent/2017/may/03/is-the-climate-consensus-97-999-or-is-plate-tectonics-a-hoax

    And here's a more recent one that agrees with me.


  • #50
    Sweetemotion
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    jaxxx wrote: »
    Can I place a wager that the OP is a flat Earther?

    Didn't 97% of scientists at one time also claim the the earth was flat?


  • #51
    GreeBo
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    Sweetemotion wrote: »
    Listen from 2:30 minute mark.


    Wow, that was pretty pathetic from "I'm a scientist" McElhinney.

    Bangs on about the 98% figure being nonsense as there is no list but then 2 minutes later uses "Everyone knows that Europe is failing" as the basis of her argument.

    :rolleyes:


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