Eamon Dunphy leaving RTE

trixiebust

I had a feeling there would be some announcement after the W.C.

The last 2 or 3 years weren't great to watch. Slowly declining, & was phoning it in. The chemistry between Dara & him was piss poor too. Although I'd blame Dara ( I don't want to upset anyone) Maloney for that though.

Not the first time he left RTE though. I remember the 3rd/4th place play-off in the 1986 world cup in Mexico. It was never a game taken all that seriously before then so in I suppose in a sort of pilot for "Apres Match" RTE did the whole thing with Dermot Morgan and (I think it was) Fran Dempsey standing in as pundits, doing impersonations of the Giles/Dunphy act.

Your man's nose was well out of joint after that, didn't find it one bit funny, and didn't come back until the ROI actually qualified for a major tournament for the first time two years later when obviously the TV audience watching him was going to triple.

Agricola

Billy86 wrote: »

Is Cunningham still there? I avoid RTE coverage as I said earlier, and while he can be a bit annoying at times (and has the maddest eyebrows the world has ever seen), Kenny when I have seen him tends to be pretty well researched and hasn't shown much difficulty putting his own opinion across rather than 'towing the line' of niceties.

I believe Kenny is doing a few bits for Off the Ball on Newstalk.....................at this particular moment in time!




I fully expect Duff to make up a third of the main trio now. RTE are going down the road of the British coverage, big name ex players over people who actually understand the nuances of the game and crucially, can articulate them. Duff is shocking imo.

He always sounds like he's still standing pitchside with Tony O'Donoghue, breathlessly giving his synopsis of events as fast as he possibly can so he can get out of there. Terrible delivery for tv analyst.

Arthur Daley

[Deleted User] wrote: »

You man's nose was well out of joint after that, didn't find it one bit funny, and didn't come back until the ROI actually qualified for a major tournament for the first time two years later when obviously the TV audience watching him was going to triple.

Fairly sure he wasn't on the panel for Euro 88. But was back in 1990.

Joe prim

For all his faults, he did well in the Eurovision.

Star Bingo

Agricola wrote: »

I fully expect Duff to make up a third of the main trio now. RTE are going down the road of the British coverage, big name ex players over people who actually understand the nuances of the game and crucially, can articulate them. Duff is shocking imo.

I don’t even be paying attention to what he’s sayin

Hopefully he can develop into a distinguished voice his that cocks my ear and commands my attention...?! sh*t even Kenny Cunningham managed that albeit at brief, but particular moments in time

DEFTLEFTHAND

Bracken81 wrote: »

Kenny is good
But he seems to have been dropped for Duffer and the likes
Wasn't involved in the world cup coverage at all

Yeah I like him, he can get fiery at times. Not afraid of a heated argument.

That's what we want, the likes of Duffer and Andrews are just too 'vanilla.'

Arthur Daley

Arthur Daley wrote: »

Fairly sure he wasn't on the panel for Euro 88. But was back in 1990.

Ah! Fair enough, I'm open to correction on that, and let's be honest the sands of time aren't exactly flowing north

No matter what the tournament my point is the same though. The Bill/Giles/Dunphy party started in I think 1978 with the Argentina world cup when Irish qualification for anything was a distant dream. When it became a realistic expectation he was back in line fairly sharpish getting his mug on every TV and paper in the country. No objection to that, it's a smart business move, just saying the man did remarkably well for himself financially speaking by being allowed to be drunk on air at licence payers expense.

(Ridiculing Liam Brady, throwing his pen at the camera, and calling various EPL players cheats and brats and frauds etc is entirely his own business, though I kinda liked that part myself!:D)

padd b1975

Arthur Daley wrote: »

Fairly sure he wasn't on the panel for Euro 88. But was back in 1990.

He wasn't there in '94 either.

OldMrBrennan83

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ArnoldJRimmer

Patww79 wrote: »

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I don't get this. If Eamon says Pogba or Salah is useless and winds up your average United or Liverpool supporter, then more fool them for giving him oxygen

Most critics here are stating that this has been outdated punditry for many years now, and that its time for him to retire. Similar to what Brolly brings to the table, its fairly transparent baiting that has made the analysis unwatchable for many people. Not sure I would classify that as a success

passremarkable

He’s a nothing player, like Paul McShane on steroids !!
Dunphy on Ramos

blinding

passremarkable wrote: »

He’s a nothing player, like Paul McShane on steroids !!
Dunphy on Ramos

Thats encouraging drug taking !

greenspurs

Interview in The Star today with Dunphy.
Talking about new Head of SPort not wanting pundits to "upset gaa and football players"...

Kiss the players ar$e$ ala Sky sports is the new direction then ?
Vanilla tv.

Sephiroth_dude

Himself,Bill,John and Liam were brilliant together.

inforfun

For all i care they get rid of analysis completely if the few guys that were at least amusing, like Dunphy, are gone.

90% of them cant or will not tell me anything i hadnt seen myself already and having to watch a couple of former players almost become twitter hooligans on tv because their former club just lost.... no thanks.

weldoninhio

inforfun wrote: »

For all i care they get rid of analysis completely if the few guys that were at least amusing, like Dunphy, are gone.

90% of them cant or will not tell me anything i hadnt seen myself already and having to watch a couple of former players almost become twitter hooligans on tv because their former club just lost.... no thanks.

I agree, when a striker misses a chance, and all the analyst can give us from the situation is "he'll be disappointed with that", then it's pointless having the analyst there. Even someones grandmother would realise that someone who is paid to score goals will be disappointed when they miss.

Oasis1974

Bit of a callous man really to be a soccer pundit. You can call the ones over in the UK just yes men with boring analysis but Dunphy always had his own hidden agenda. I mean I used watch this guy slate Christiano Ronaldo back in his young days at United and he was incessant about it. Ronaldo was a diver cheat and the worst kind of player who would never amount to anything. The guy didn't turn out to bad in the end Eamon did he.

blinding

Oasis1974 wrote: »

Bit of a callous man really to be a soccer pundit. You can call the ones over in the UK just yes men with boring analysis but Dunphy always had his own hidden agenda. I mean I used watch this guy slate Christian Ronaldo back in his young days at United and he was incessant about it. Ronaldo was a diver cheat and the worst kind of player who would never amount to anything. The guy didn't turn out to bad in the end Eamon did he.

A bit better than Eamonn .

padd b1975

Still no mention of him standing in a Millwall team photo with his lad hanging out.

Very disappointing.

blinding

padd b1975 wrote: »

Still no mention of him standing in a Millwall team photo with his lad hanging out.

Very disappointing.

His lad....disappointed you !:eek:

Arthur Daley

padd b1975 wrote: »

He wasn't there in '94 either.

Yeah, he was at the Team hotel in Orlando, with Jack and the boys. Small world

Cork Boy 53

greenspurs wrote: »

Interview in The Star today with Dunphy.
Talking about new Head of SPort not wanting pundits to "upset gaa and football players"...

Kiss the players ar$e$ ala Sky sports is the new direction then ?
Vanilla tv.

Well if that's the case Duff must already be in the bad books given his comments about the GAA earlier this week.

squawker

Oasis1974 wrote: »

The guy didn't turn out to bad in the end Eamon did he.

he was bang on about Jack Charlton though

Say Your Number

On Ronaldo, I would imagine Dunphy had seen a hundred of these selfish, flashy, Fancy Dan players with zero substance throughout his life, a stereotype Ronaldo definitely fit in the early days of his career.

I think Dunphy's main objection was to his behavior, diving, pretending to be injured, throwing his hands in the air dramatically for everyone to see when a teammate misplaced a pass, for old school fellas like Dunphy and Giles those type of actions broke the footballers code.

I imagine all the hype about him from the English channels didn't help either, as with Italia 90, there was some truth to his core point but he expressed himself in a typically melodramatic fashion that it wound a lot of people up.

trashcan

Say Your Number wrote: »

there was some truth to his core point but he expressed himself in a typically melodramatic fashion that it wound a lot of people up.

That sums up Dunphy for me. There was often a decent point to the core of what he was saying, but he was prone to wild exaggeration, and of course constant contradictions of his previous stance on points, which made it difficult to take him seriously. I'll never forget his savaging of Liam Brady when he was playing for Ireland in the early 80's. By the time they were on the panel together of course he had become a "great player."

blinding

Dunphy had selective amnesia !

I hope to forget him soon !

paleoperson

Sephiroth_dude wrote: »

Himself,Bill,John and Liam were brilliant together.

yeah, I think this is like losing a great man of the parish as someone (sarcastically) said, but legit when parishes meant something.

I grew up with Dunphy, Giles and Bill on the telly. They were always there. Giles would be the sensible, wise man telling it like it is. Dunphy would be more of a loose canon but could be a legend sometimes. Bill for likeability and a bit of comedy. When Bill went it was a knock, Giles leaving was a massive blow but Dunphy was there anyway. Brady... I don't really care about him too much, he came after the first three.

Now that Dunphy's gone it's over, the magic is broken. I had a simple rule for deciding whether to watch rte or the english channels for the world cup - if Dunphy was on I'd watch him, if not the others. Until my dying day I'll remember them.

Was he right? Sometimes yes, sometimes no. But I admired his spirit and ability to argue, he definitely contributed and was vastly more likely to give an original point than most of the clones you see now.

A supposed argument with RTE, complaining about ageism and some other nonsense despite being offered a raise - I'd say that's just his parting shot going out the door. Focusing his energies on The Stand? But surely it doesn't take that much energy to show up and analyze a football match, lots of people would do it for free. I'd say it's more like he's aware of his mortality, he might be starting to feel more drained mentally and physically and wants to go out on a high before it starts showing.

NIMAN

Surely The Stand can't be much of a money spinner?

I mean, do people really listen to podcasts in big numbers? I have listened to a few of them out of curiosity, and they are just ok.

I know some will say podcasts are the future, but the WC and Johnny Giles kept The Stand with plenty of material in recent times, but podcats will only attract a tiny fraction of the numbers Dunphy would get if he was on a 'proper' radio station doing the same show.

OldMrBrennan83

NIMAN wrote: »

Surely The Stand can't be much of a money spinner?

I mean, do people really listen to podcasts in big numbers? I have listened to a few of them out of curiosity, and they are just ok.

I know some will say podcasts are the future, but the WC and Johnny Giles kept The Stand with plenty of material in recent times, but podcats will only attract a tiny fraction of the numbers Dunphy would get if he was on a 'proper' radio station doing the same show.

I'd say he's his money made and The Stand is on his own terms, which he wouldn't get working for a broadcaster.