120GB SSD £22.99 on 7dayshop

bromley52

As seen on hukd

jamesd

bromley52 wrote: »

As seen on hukd

Ordered 2, thanks.

corks finest

bromley52 wrote: »

As seen on hukd

Good find

bromley52

bromley52 wrote: »

As seen on hukd

Thanks got 2 myself

MisterAnarchy

They will be giving these away free in cereal boxes soon.
Saying that ,these are the prices we should have had for the last 12 months but for the price fixing rampant in the SSD manufacturing industry.

Guy:Incognito

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

They will be giving these away free in cereal boxes soon.
Saying that ,these are the prices we should have had for the last 12 months but for the price fixing rampant in the SSD manufacturing industry.

Big SSD ****ing us over yet again.

micks_address

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

They will be giving these away free in cereal boxes soon.
Saying that ,these are the prices we should have had for the last 12 months but for the price fixing rampant in the SSD manufacturing industry.

Big SSD ****ing us over yet again.

Is this fast enough to use as a boot drive in PC?
Thanks,
Mick

RossieMan

Price fixing? You mean the nand shortage right?

RossieMan

RossieMan wrote: »

Price fixing? You mean the nand shortage right?

There's an ongoing price fixing investigation in China.

Price fixing is almost the default behaviour in these type of industries. Most of the big players in the electronics industry have been caught price-fixing at least once. RAM, optical drives, CRT tubes, flat screens, capacitors, you name it. Hitachi, LG, Panasonic, Sanyo, Samsung SDI etc...all these big well-known companies. The fines are so small that it's worth the risk.

In one case - I think the optical drives - the investigation found that conspirators were meeting in cinemas, huddling together in the back row to discuss prices :pac:. Like that Matt Damon movie. This was just a few years ago and involved huge, huge companies !

Alanstrainor

micks_address wrote: »

Is this fast enough to use as a boot drive in PC?
Thanks,
Mick

Yes. It'll be great. Not the fastest SSD out there but compared to a mechanical drive it would be a huge leap. I should probably just buy one really...

davemie

Would this be a better drive for two pound more?

Kingston Technology SA400S37/120G SSD A400 120 GB Solid State Drive (2.5 Inch SATA 3)

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01N6JQS8C/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_fRAvBbQMT0S00

Alanstrainor

davemie wrote: »

Would this be a better drive for two pound more?

Kingston Technology SA400S37/120G SSD A400 120 GB Solid State Drive (2.5 Inch SATA 3)

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01N6JQS8C/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_fRAvBbQMT0S00

They are both almost identical in terms of spec. No noticeable difference between the two I'd say. Although I'd probably prefer the Kingston brand.

MisterAnarchy

RossieMan wrote: »

Price fixing? You mean the nand shortage right?

You think that the Nand shortage really lasted over 12 months ?
It was the initial reason for the increases but there was rampant price fixing after a few months.

duridian

davemie wrote: »

Would this be a better drive for two pound more?

Kingston Technology SA400S37/120G SSD A400 120 GB Solid State Drive (2.5 Inch SATA 3)

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01N6JQS8C/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_fRAvBbQMT0S00

Based on the specifications from Kingston’s manufacturers website versus what I see on independent reviews saying the Adata can do the claimed 450MB/s write, I think the Adata is better in writing speeds.
I don’t think there is a much difference between write speed of higher capacity ~960GB version of the Kingston and this Adata, but for some reason the low capacity Kingston models, especially the 120GB, are a good bit slower according to their official spec sheet.
Adata 120GB with 450MB/s write versus Kingston 120GB with 320MB/s write.

So I guess the short answer as far as I can see is no, it isn’t better.

EDIT some links
Kingston official info. Click specifications to see the claimed read and write speeds of the A400.
https://www.kingston.com/en/ssd/consumer/sa400s37

Adata official info for SU 650.
http://www.adata.com/rs/specification/503

Bangla review with English subs shows benchmarks of this Adata drive. Jump to about 4m55s.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlpAQt0HIkI

This one is of the 240GB version of Adata but nearly the same write speed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VrkC58X_uw

This is the Kingston 120GB

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Je3RSM154Gg

longshotvalue

For the sake of €30 most people would be far better of with a 250 gig Crucial or Samsung.

128 is just about enough for a win 10 pc with any software, and ssds are better not full

bromley52

aidankkk wrote: »

For the sake of €30 most people would be far better of with a 250 gig Crucial or Samsung.

128 is just about enough for a win 10 pc with any software, and ssds are better not full

Iv a 2009 laptop running win7 which my 8yo uses. It takes for ever to boot so I'm hoping a €26 SSD would improve things a little bit. If not then I would have broken the bank.

Alanstrainor

bromley52 wrote: »

Iv a 2009 laptop running win7 which my 8yo uses. It takes for ever to boot so I'm hoping a €26 SSD would improve things a little bit. If not then I would have broken the bank.

It will transform the laptop. But a fresh install of Windows 7 would probably do it a lot of favours too. For this money I'd say the 120GB SSD is worth it.

Hell I have a Windows 10 desktop running on a 64GB SSD. Works a charm, never have any issues with it. 120GB would be easy to live with tbh.

bromley52

Mine was delivered this morning and I only ordered it on Sunday.

Daniel S

Waiting for mine to put into my old Macbook Pro, hopefully will make it usable again!

I got mine as well this morning, very quick delivery i must say. I just cloned my dell hard drive to one of these and replaced it in, jaysus the thing took off what a change in performance.

scamalert

well for people that had laptops for long time and never used ssd in one its like adding 30-50% performance once you put ssd and fresh windows 7-10 install. Thou not a fan of brand but cant go wrong much with 20 quid. really amazed how they gotten so cheap as memory in general has almost doubled in price in last two years.

mightyreds

Still waiting on mine ordered Sunday also

davemie

It's now out of stock on the website.

alastair_doom

davemie wrote: »

It's now out of stock on the website.

Amazon do have the following for ~£25:

Kingston Technology SA400S37/120G SSD A400 120 GB Solid State Drive (2.5 Inch SATA 3)

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01N6JQS8C

No idea how it compares

tuxy

aidankkk wrote: »

For the sake of €30 most people would be far better of with a 250 gig Crucial or Samsung.

128 is just about enough for a win 10 pc with any software, and ssds are better not full

True, it's perfect for a budget media center build though.

With my install of windows 10 on one of these i have about 85gigs free space left.

duridian

alastair_doom wrote: »

Amazon do have the following for ~£25:

Kingston Technology SA400S37/120G SSD A400 120 GB Solid State Drive (2.5 Inch SATA 3)

https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01N6JQS8C

No idea how it compares

The Kingston's much slower at writing than the Adata in the 120GB size. The 240GB is pretty slow as well, though not as much as 120GB model. The 480GB and 960GB version of the Kingston are fast like the Adata.

Read back a page or two, I posted some stuff about this speed difference earlier in the week.

I actually ordered one of the Adata 120GB SSDs from Amazon rather than 7 day shop because I was ordering a few other bits there anyway. Plan to use it to liven up an old Core2 Quad core desktop that I've had nearly 11 years!

Daniel S

Apart from those who got them on Wednesday, has anyone received them since?

editorsean

I decided to get this for my old workplace PC. It's a 10-year old HP workstation with a Core2Duo E8400, 4GB RAM and running Windows 10.

With the last hard disk upgrade to the PC (WD 640GB 7200RPM), I short-stroked the OS partition to 100GB to help improve performance at the time as my work, OneDrive, SharePoint, etc. are stored on a second hard disk. This also made it very straight forward to migrate to SSD as I didn't have to worry about shrinking the OS partition.

Before cloning the SSD, I timed how long it takes for the PC to boot and load the main applications I use in sequence - Outlook 2016, Firefox, Publisher 2016 and GIMP. As my nickname suggests, I do a lot of content editing at work, mainly editing images, webpages and publications. Restarting has always been a slow task, so I included a restart timing to having the Firefox browser open on the homepage.

HDD stopwatch timing (m:ss) from pushing the power button to:

• Password: 0:36.5
• Desktop: 0:42.4
• Outlook: 2:39.0
• Firefox: 3:00.1
• Publisher 3:15.5
• GIMP: 3:42.1

HDD stopwatch timing (m:ss) from Start->Power->Restart to:

• Password: 1:43.3
• Desktop: 1:58.5
• Firefox: 3:21.8

I did a 1:1 clone in Linux Mint. While the SSD has a 450MB/s write speed, this only lasts for a few GB of sustained write and averaged about 50MB/s towards the end of the clone process:



I removed the Windows recovery partition as it was outside the disk boundary and Windows 10 usually creates a new one with the next feature update. I let it boot and reboot a few times to settle in and make sure everything seemed fine. I then shutdown and performed another set of stopwatch tests:

SSD stopwatch timing (m:ss) from pushing the power button to:

• Password: 0:20.4
• Desktop: 0:25.2
• Outlook: 0:43.0
• Firefox: 0:50.1
• Publisher 0:59.6
• GIMP: 1:17.7

SSD stopwatch timing (m:ss) from Start->Power->Restart to:

• Password: 0:49.5
• Desktop: 0:57.4
• Firefox: 1:03.0

While not as fast as a modern PC with an SSD, it's well worth the upgrade and no more stuttering with multiple applications open. :cool:

Daniel S

Amazing to think you can restart the PC and open Firefox in less than a third of the time!

Fuzzy Logic

Still waiting on mine

mightyreds

got mine this morning ordered late Sunday night

MisterAnarchy

Daniel S wrote: »

Amazing to think you can restart the PC and open Firefox in less than a third of the time!

Yip,once you switch to a SSD you will never want to go back to a physical drive .
Hopefully PC's and Laptops will have SSD's as the norm from now on.

ED E

Daniel S wrote: »

Amazing to think you can restart the PC and open Firefox in less than a third of the time!

And that's a slow SSD too, 450 MB/s, try 2200MB/s

ozmo

For max speed and less wear - I would recommend to reinstall on an SSD rather than clone - as windows will detect it on installation and make some adjustments...

eg. I believe some defrag and caching services are not enabled when installing fresh on an ssd - cloning will bring over the settings suitable for the old drive.

Also data installs at a slightly different start place on an SSD - if they data is misaligned windows will have to occasionally do an extra sector read to get that full data block.

"...a mechanical hard drive starts its first partition after 63 empty blocks, while a solid drive starts its first partition after 64 blocks. That is to say, cloning one to the other would certainly decrease SSD's performance because the partitions are not correctly aligned by rules." link

duridian

ozmo wrote: »

For max speed and less wear - I would recommend to reinstall on an SSD rather than clone - as windows will detect it on installation and make some adjustments...

eg. I believe some defrag and caching services are not enabled when installing fresh on an ssd - cloning will bring over the settings suitable for the old drive.

Also data installs at a slightly different start place on an SSD - if they data is misaligned windows will have to occasionally do an extra sector read to get that full data block.

"...a mechanical hard drive starts its first partition after 63 empty blocks, while a solid drive starts its first partition after 64 blocks. That is to say, cloning one to the other would certainly decrease SSD's performance because the partitions are not correctly aligned by rules." link

Trim is another thing which I think may be affected, as it would serve no purpose on a hard drive, and might not be active in a system cloned across from one.

ozmo

ozmo wrote: »

For max speed and less wear - I would recommend to reinstall on an SSD rather than clone - as windows will detect it on installation and make some adjustments...

eg. I believe some defrag and caching services are not enabled when installing fresh on an ssd - cloning will bring over the settings suitable for the old drive.

Also data installs at a slightly different start place on an SSD - if they data is misaligned windows will have to occasionally do an extra sector read to get that full data block.

"...a mechanical hard drive starts its first partition after 63 empty blocks, while a solid drive starts its first partition after 64 blocks. That is to say, cloning one to the other would certainly decrease SSD's performance because the partitions are not correctly aligned by rules." link

I followed the link ozmo and used the software provided thanks, but it said my ssd was already aligned?.

I used this from Macrium software https://www.macrium.com/reflectfree, to clone my hard drive maybe this software does it automatically?, or does windows 10?

editorsean

Deleted User wrote: »

I followed the link ozmo and used the software provided thanks, but it said my ssd was already aligned?.

Windows 7, 8.x and 10 all automatically create the OS partition aligned to a 4K boundary duration installation, regardless of installation to HDD or SSD. The exception is when upgrading from Windows XP or Vista, where the existing partition is kept. This means that a 1:1 clone of a Windows 7 or later OS to an SSD should already be 4K aligned, unless the OS partition was previously created with Windows XP or Vista. Hard disks manufactured from around 2011 use 4K native sectors also.

For example, on my workplace PC I did the clone with, the OS partition offset is 1048576, which 4096 divides evenly into, i.e. 4K aligned:



For comparison, the data storage hard disk in this PC which was originally partitioned many years ago on Windows XP has an offset of 32256, which 4096 does not divide evenly into. Dividing 512 into it gives 63, the sector which Windows XP aligns the primary partition to:



When Windows 7 onwards boots from an SSD after a clone, it will automatically reconfigure itself for the SSD the next time it reboots. For example, it displays the drive as a solid state drive in the defragger and will not let me analyse/defrag it unlike the hard disk listing:



Similarly for TRIM. The DisableDeleteNotify query should return 0 when TRIM is enabled (source):



Indeed, a clean Windows installation will give better performance, although this does not necessary mean it needs to be done the same time as upgrading the HDD, unless there is a problem with cloning the existing OS across. However, while the PC is open for the SSD upgrade, I do recommend cleaning the inside of the PC, especially dust build-up on the heatsinks, etc.

duridian

Good info there. Thanks Sean.

LeChienMefiant

Silly question possibly... my newish HP laptop has a 1TB HDD and I will be upgrading to this SSD. Is it possible to clone the 1TB to the 120GB?
Secondly there is a recovery partition on the HP laptop. Is cloning this an option? Thirdly, how would I go about getting install media to reinstall Windows 7/8 from scratch?

LeChienMefiant

LeChienMefiant wrote: »

Silly question possibly... my newish HP laptop has a 1TB HDD and I will be upgrading to this SSD. Is it possible to clone the 1TB to the 120GB?

Depends on how much space is used on your 1TB drive.

Secondly there is a recovery partition on the HP laptop. Is cloning this an option?

It's not a good idea. These recovery partitions are pretty dumb and expect certain size disk. Even if you cloned it, it probably wouldn't work in the event you needed it.

A clean install is what I would do in your case.

Fuzzy Logic

Anyone still waiting on delivery?

styron

Fuzzy Logic wrote: »

Anyone still waiting on delivery?

Yeah, ordered last Monday (Dublin).

Alanstrainor

LeChienMefiant wrote: »

Silly question possibly... my newish HP laptop has a 1TB HDD and I will be upgrading to this SSD. Is it possible to clone the 1TB to the 120GB?
Secondly there is a recovery partition on the HP laptop. Is cloning this an option? Thirdly, how would I go about getting install media to reinstall Windows 7/8 from scratch?

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows8ISO

Download directly from Microsoft themselves.

I would not clone your drive. I would install from scratch in this case, seeing that it is a relatively new machine. You can keep your old hard disk as a backup at least for a short while, and then perhaps repurpose it as an external USB drive.

rebeve

Fuzzy Logic wrote: »

Anyone still waiting on delivery?

Still waiting ,Ordered mine on Monday .

editorsean

LeChienMefiant wrote: »

Silly question possibly... my newish HP laptop has a 1TB HDD and I will be upgrading to this SSD. Is it possible to clone the 1TB to the 120GB?
Secondly there is a recovery partition on the HP laptop. Is cloning this an option? Thirdly, how would I go about getting install media to reinstall Windows 7/8 from scratch?

You may be able to exclude it with the cloning software or alternatively delete the partition after the clone and expand the OS partition to fill the space in EaseUS. Windows 10 will work fine without the recovery partition and later recreate a smaller Windows 10 recovery partition during the next feature update. However, I've only done this with 240GB and larger SSDs.

As a few others already mentioned, I also recommend doing a clean Windows installation in this case due to the limited 120GB capacity. Besides the recovery partition, there tends to be a lot of preloaded content (and bloatware) on OEM installations that's difficult to fully remove. Based on the last few times I installed Windows 8 or 10 64-bit with drivers and updates, a clean ready to use Windows installation is typically around 10GB, compared to up to 40GB I've seen with some brand new laptops.

Before starting, download the network or Wi-Fi drivers from the HP website. Open up device manager (right-click start -> Device Manager) and check what network adapters you currently have, e.g. Realtek, Intel, etc. to identify which to download if it gives a choice. In device manager, click the very top item and press * on the numeric keyboard to expand the lot. Take screenshots page by page and put the images on a USB key. Once you get online with the clean Windows installation, Windows will automatically download and install most drivers from Windows update. If there are any remaining unknown devices, you can use the screenshots to help identify what drivers are left to install. In some cases, I've seen Windows 8 and 10 install every driver after completing Windows updates without depending on the manufacturer's website. If there's just one unknown device that needs a driver, it's usually the SD card slot.

If you would like to try Windows 10, I have also successfully installed Windows 10 on a friend's laptop late last year that only ever had Windows 8, well after the free upgrade period ended. I don't recall it asking for the Windows key during installation and activated fine. However, as that was about a year ago it's possible Microsoft may no longer allow this, in which case you can still install Windows 8.

As for my 7dayshop delivery - I ordered the SSD and a set of Ink cartridges last Sunday 22nd. The SSD arrived last Wednesday 25th and the ink cartridges on Friday 27th.

mrtom

rebeve wrote: »

Still waiting ,Ordered mine on Monday .

7 Day shop response:
We are sorry to hear your order has not yet arrived. I can confirm it was shipped on 24/7/18 and should be with you shortly. Unfortunately, I am unable to give you an exact arrival date, the package is not tracked. Delivery usually takes 3-5 working days, but this is not guaranteed.
Please allow a few more days for delivery. We are unable to re-send or refund until after 28 days from shipping as the Post Office will not accept an order as missing until after this time.
If your order has not arrived by this time, please get back to us.
Regards

davemie

Mine has also not arrived yet.

styron

Not today either - only realised despite using before that 7dayshop are Guernsey not UK/EU based (well hid on the site). My order's around £50 ... possible customs ??

djmarkus

styron wrote: »

Not today either - only realised despite using before that 7dayshop are Guernsey not UK/EU based (well hid on the site). My order's around £50 ... possible customs ??

"Guernsey is not a member of the EU and not part of the UK. Under its Protocol 3 relationship with the EU Guernsey is part of the customs territory which allows for the free movement of goods."

Alanstrainor

I order bits and bobs from them all the time, sometimes delivery takes a week or maybe a bit longer. Generally they are quick, but it happens. I wouldn't worry too much lads.