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How do actors that play super heros build muscle so fast

  • 18-07-2018 2:06pm
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    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 129 ✭✭


    I'm talking about the likes of Henry Cavill, Chris Evans and Chris Helmsworth . Surely there must be a little bit of steroid use?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 778 ✭✭✭Jack Moore


    OSI wrote: »
    They have months of doing nothing but getting ready with their own dedicated trainer, dietician chef etc all focused solely on getting them ripped for the role.

    I’d be sure at lease a few of them are using steroids.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,590 ✭✭✭LLMMLL


    OSI wrote: »
    They have months of doing nothing but getting ready with their own dedicated trainer, dietician chef etc all focused solely on getting them ripped for the role.

    Personally I have my doubts that’s the reason. They’d have other projects on the go so wouldn’t necessarily be dedicating their entire time before the shoot to getting bulked.

    I know people who dedicate their entire lives to bodybuilding and don’t make those kinds of gains in a few month.

    Then take into account the age of some of these guys like Hugh jackman......

    ROIDS.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,878 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    A little bit of this
    OSI wrote: »
    They have months of doing nothing but getting ready with their own dedicated trainer, dietician chef etc all focused solely on getting them ripped for the role.

    And a little bit of this..
    LLMMLL wrote: »
    Personally I have my doubts that’s the reason. They’d have other projects on the go so wouldn’t necessarily be dedicating their entire time before the shoot to getting bulked.

    I know people who dedicate their entire lives to bodybuilding and don’t make those kinds of gains in a few month.

    Then take into account the age of some of these guys like Hugh jackman......

    ROIDS.

    None of the actors there look like bodybuilders IMO.

    Plus in the USA and other countries its relatively easy for a male 35yrs ++ to get prescribed TRT


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65 ✭✭DeanoG14


    OSI wrote: »
    They have months of doing nothing but getting ready with their own dedicated trainer, dietician chef etc all focused solely on getting them ripped for the role.

    Don't forget the dedicated doctor ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,276 ✭✭✭✭banie01


    I know they are not "current" action hero's but if memory serves Stallone got into some bother in Australia back in @2007 for importing HGH.
    A few others have had similar "health issues" too.

    *EDIT*
    Article confirming above just to confirm I'm not speculating

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2007/may/21/australia.film


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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,893 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    Mod Note: If we could stop speculating on steroid usage that would be lovely

    A lot of them don't get big. They wear muscle suits. Some get slightly bigger and get very lean.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,611 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    Ah you'd even see in interviews they mention the bodysuits and cgi, esp as a lot of those are comic characters no matter what someone would do the dimensions are near impossible to be physically. Obviously for the shots out of the suit it's different but they try and get all those done early on in shooting while still training.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65 ✭✭DeanoG14


    Brian? wrote: »
    Mod Note: If we could stop speculating on steroid usage that would be lovely

    A lot of them don't get big. They wear muscle suits. Some get slightly bigger and get very lean.

    Why? (Genuine question) Steroids aren't illegal.

    Isn't that OP's question. "Do they use steroids?". If we're not to discuss it then what's the point of keeping the thread open?

    Either way, some of those guys deserve massive credit and a lot of them have been in shape for a long time but because of the parts they play it isn't always in focus or they aren't always as lean as they get for the superhero roles.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 129 ✭✭thetimeisnow


    He may not look like a bodybuilder in the traditional sense and the look below may be natural but its the speed at which he achieved it is what I find hard to understand. For most guys his height your looking at years not months of training to look like that
    456070.jpg


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 129 ✭✭thetimeisnow


    From doing a bit of research I do know that building up your body like that for the first time is the hardest time , but if they lose the bulk getting it back is much easier due to satellite cells in the muscles


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,694 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    He may not look like a bodybuilder in the traditional sense and the look below may be natural but its the speed at which he achieved it is what I find hard to understand. For most guys his height your looking at years not months of training to look like that
    456070.jpg

    To be fair, that chap had a decent muscle base, ie good genetics. Its quite possible he did that naturally because its not like he blew up in a short period of time.

    Not saying its definitely just genetics but its plausible in this instance


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,893 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    DeanoG14 wrote: »
    Why? (Genuine question) Steroids aren't illegal.

    Isn't that OP's question. "Do they use steroids?". If we're not to discuss it then what's the point of keeping the thread open?

    Either way, some of those guys deserve massive credit and a lot of them have been in shape for a long time but because of the parts they play it isn't always in focus or they aren't always as lean as they get for the superhero roles.

    Please don't question mod direction in thread. PM me for an answer.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,969 ✭✭✭✭Mars Bar


    He may not look like a bodybuilder in the traditional sense and the look below may be natural but its the speed at which he achieved it is what I find hard to understand. For most guys his height your looking at years not months of training to look like that

    Even the Hemsworth's father is in super shape. Genetically gifted those lads are!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17 Beach Fuzz


    Brian? wrote: »
    Please don't question mod direction in thread. PM me for an answer.


    Could you not just explain it on the thread for everybody in the first place? Surely it makes more sense to be transparent on your reasons here?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,306 ✭✭✭✭Drumpot


    Ah Come on guys....

    Everybody knows It’s all CGI these days , actors don’t even have to shave let alone work out to get toned!!!


    henry3.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,104 ✭✭✭manonboard


    It makes sense that it's chemical help like some form of steroids or testosterone. It's legal in many places, or at least alot less illegal.
    It happens sooo fast for some actors that it's just not feasible to think its all natural. I know many people who work hard in the gym for gains like this and it just takes alot longer for them doing it naturally, with a good diet.


    I'm sure they work very hard, and there are ways to build BIG muscle without it being very strong. They'd have lots of help to and lets not forget a bit of computer help.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 681 ✭✭✭Killgore Trout


    Lookin back at some pics of Chris Hemsworth in home and Away has some pretty decent guns and delts. So it wasn’t like he licked it off a stone.

    Also low bf with a lot of the mentioned guys contributes to the appearance of rippedness. I remember cavil mentioned in interviews the cutting before his topless scenes in man of steel and how they were shot together so he could get his clothes on and getting a more realistic calorie intake.

    People who haven’t put the time and effort in are usually the first ones calling roids.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 207 ✭✭Chaos Tourist


    DeanoG14 wrote: »
    Don't forget the dedicated doctor ;)

    He's the one they call Dr. Feelgood

    He's the one that makes ya feel alright


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,646 ✭✭✭washman3


    DeanoG14 wrote: »
    Why? (Genuine question) Steroids aren't illegal.

    Isn't that OP's question. "Do they use steroids?". If we're not to discuss it then what's the point of keeping the thread open?

    Either way, some of those guys deserve massive credit and a lot of them have been in shape for a long time but because of the parts they play it isn't always in focus or they aren't always as lean as they get for the superhero roles.

    He's probably getting confused with the athletics/sports forums.
    Many people naturally assume that because steroids are banned for most sports and deeply frowned upon that they are illegal to buy/obtain. The opposite is in fact the case. In the USA and indeed many,many countries anabolic steroids are readily available and in many cases without prescription of any sort.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,454 ✭✭✭mloc123


    Hugh Jackman openly said he took steroids for 'The Wolverine' iirc.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,287 ✭✭✭givyjoe


    LLMMLL wrote: »
    Personally I have my doubts that’s the reason. They’d have other projects on the go so wouldn’t necessarily be dedicating their entire time before the shoot to getting bulked.

    I know people who dedicate their entire lives to bodybuilding and don’t make those kinds of gains in a few month.

    Then take into account the age of some of these guys like Hugh jackman......

    ROIDS.

    Hugh Jackman definitely did for his later appearances as wolverine. Stallione was caught a few years ago bringing some juice into Oz.

    Arnie's had a few heart surgeries, likely being needed from.years of roids.

    Usually a give away is being excessively vascular.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,903 ✭✭✭Blacktie.


    IBTL


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65 ✭✭DeanoG14


    washman3 wrote: »
    He's probably getting confused with the athletics/sports forums.
    Many people naturally assume that because steroids are banned for most sports and deeply frowned upon that they are illegal to buy/obtain. The opposite is in fact the case. In the USA and indeed many,many countries anabolic steroids are readily available and in many cases without prescription of any sort.

    I could understand if I was speaking of an athlete that trains in tested events, and my "speculation" would be seen to blacken an athlete's reputation.

    As you said there's nothing wrong or illegal with a guy using anabolic steroids to reach his aim if he's not breaking any laws/rules.

    What I would like is if OP is thinking of getting on shape he has realistic ambitions in place. A natural lifter will struggle to gain 5lbs of lean mass in a year with a near perfect training and diet.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,903 ✭✭✭Blacktie.


    DeanoG14 wrote: »
    What I would like is if OP is thinking of getting on shape he has realistic ambitions in place. A natural lifter will struggle to gain 5lbs of lean mass in a year with a near perfect training and diet.

    Well this just isn't true. Sure the guys way down the line and getting real close to their genetic potential would find it very tough to put on muscle but someone in the intermediate or beginner stage would not struggle to gain 5 lb of muscle even with a not so perfect diet and training regime.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65 ✭✭DeanoG14


    Blacktie. wrote: »
    Well this just isn't true. Sure the guys way down the line and getting real close to their genetic potential would find it very tough to put on muscle but someone in the intermediate or beginner stage would not struggle to gain 5 lb of muscle even with a not so perfect diet and training regime.

    Sure, if you're a taller guy and new to lifting with decent genetics you might hit 10-12lbs over the course of your first year but that's not the norm.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,903 ✭✭✭Blacktie.


    DeanoG14 wrote: »
    Sure, if you're a taller guy and new to lifting with decent genetics you might hit 10-12lbs over the course of your first year but that's not the norm.

    This is the norm if you put in some effort and don't just half ass it. Check out Lyle McDonalds article on it. LINK

    Chart of muscle gain in the article-
    Category Rate of Muscle Gain (Men)
    Beginner 1-1.5% total body weight/month
    Intermediate 0.5-1% total body weight/month
    Advanced 0.25-0.5% total body weight/month


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 65 ✭✭DeanoG14


    Blacktie. wrote: »
    This is the norm if you put in some effort and don't just half ass it. Check out Lyle McDonalds article on it. LINK

    Chart of muscle gain in the article-
    Category Rate of Muscle Gain (Men)
    Beginner 1-1.5% total body weight/month
    Intermediate 0.5-1% total body weight/month
    Advanced 0.25-0.5% total body weight/month

    Thanks for the article, I'll give it a read shortly.

    By the above graph a 200lb guy with th same amount of muscle mass as a 140lb guy would gain muscle mass at a much faster rate (all other factors being equal), not sure I see the logic in that.

    Edit: again haven't given the article a full read, might be missing something.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,903 ✭✭✭Blacktie.


    DeanoG14 wrote: »
    Thanks for the article, I'll give it a read shortly.

    By the above graph a 200lb guy with th same amount of muscle mass as a 140lb guy would gain muscle mass at a much faster rate (all other factors being equal), not sure I see the logic in that.

    Edit: again haven't given the article a full read, might be missing something.

    Well I'd imagine that's why there's a range given and not just one exact figure for everyone. There are separate figures for women as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,482 ✭✭✭✭Ush1


    givyjoe wrote: »
    Hugh Jackman definitely did for his later appearances as wolverine. Stallione was caught a few years ago bringing some juice into Oz.

    Arnie's had a few heart surgeries, likely being needed from.years of roids.

    Usually a give away is being excessively vascular.

    Arnie did steroids of course but that didn't cause his heart condition. Pretty sure it was a genetic thing he was born with.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,982 ✭✭✭Caliden


    Christian Bale from this:
    59e052f25a4f9808353306a979a700a4.png


    to this in 5 months:

    98015086dfe31ff15803922240262947.jpg


    He was 30-31 when Batman Begins was filmed.

    Let's be real here, there's only so much you can do naturally and that dramatic change seems extremely unlikely.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,287 ✭✭✭givyjoe


    Caliden wrote: »
    Christian Bale from this:
    59e052f25a4f9808353306a979a700a4.png


    to this in 5 months:

    98015086dfe31ff15803922240262947.jpg


    He was 30-31 when Batman Begins was filmed.

    Let's be real here, there's only so much you can do naturally and that dramatic change seems extremely unlikely.

    To be fair to Bale, the Batman Begins physique is much closer to his 'norm'. He also started from that stick thin figure, got way too big and was told to go off and lose some weight. Arrived from filming having been eating everything in sight and lots of fast food. Sure he was dubbed 'Fatman' when he showed up first. So cutting into that shape after being a little too big isn't that unrealistic.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,893 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    well done everyone for ignoring polite mod instruction . Thread locked.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




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