Crime and policing analyst in AGS (EO level)

sexmag

Harika wrote: »

Are you opening it with the Adobe reader or in the browser? Else go to the file location and use "open with"

i resolved it by opening it in IE of all things :rolleyes:

Anyway filled it out and sent in, my quantitive and qualitive answers are waffel, dont have high hopes really as ive been stuck in the same adminstrative job for 10 years but you never know.

Only thing is if training is in temple more ill have to get a car for myself, i have 4 kids under 8 so being away for 5 weeks means my mrs might go postal on them haha ill have to travel up and down most nights but will be worth it in the end.

Good luck everyone

Mc Love

Good to see we're all wafflers here

mel123

'the selection methods may include', so what actually is the selection method in this instance does anyone know?
This is my first application for CS. So is it an aptitude test and interview?

Crunchymomma

mel123 wrote: »

'the selection methods may include', so what actually is the selection method in this instance does anyone know?
This is my first application for CS. So is it an aptitude test and interview?

I'm going to presume that stage one will have two parts (a) basically a personality test where they have statements and you say how much that are like or unlike you and some job sim questions where you pick how satisfactory certain responses to a problem would be (b) verbal and numerical tests. Stage 2- high scorers from stage one repeat stage one testing supervised in PAS. Then possibly shortlisting of applications, then stage three interview and etray

This is all just speculation on my part having gone through a few CS campaigns previously

sexmag

mel123 wrote: »

'the selection methods may include', so what actually is the selection method in this instance does anyone know?
This is my first application for CS. So is it an aptitude test and interview?

id say there will defo be a mathematical aptitude test

CK2019

Not looking forward to going through aptitude tests again :-/ I know there isn’t a chance of it happening but I’m still hoping that they will just decide to shortlist based on applications and not bother with the aptitude tests!! The point of the aptitude tests are to reduce the numbers to a manageable amount yea? So maybe if not that many applied.....

I’ll live in my bubble for a while yet haha

mel123

Crunchymomma wrote: »

I'm going to presume that stage one will have two parts (a) basically a personality test where they have statements and you say how much that are like or unlike you and some job sim questions where you pick how satisfactory certain responses to a problem would be (b) verbal and numerical tests. Stage 2- high scorers from stage one repeat stage one testing supervised in PAS. Then possibly shortlisting of applications, then stage three interview and etray

This is all just speculation on my part having gone through a few CS campaigns previously

Thanks!
So everyone that applied will automatically get the opportunity to complete stage one?
Whats 'supervised in PAS'? Sorry not down with the lingo

Crunchymomma

mel123 wrote: »

Thanks!
So everyone that applied will automatically get the opportunity to complete stage one?
Whats 'supervised in PAS'? Sorry not down with the lingo

Thats what I think anyway but I could be way off

Supervised in PAS is when groups are called up to repeat the tests in the Public appointments service building in Dublin, they do this to weed out anyone who got someone else to complete their stage one tests

LordBasil

I've applied for this - not sure if I meet the requirements but what the hell, Why Not?!!!

With regards to next phase ie. Aptitude Tests, Supervised Tests etc. I think it will depend on how many applied.

Best of luck to everyone.

tomhenryford

I applied for this but I actually have no idea what the day to day job involves. Would anyone like to tell me what they think is involved in lay mans terms?

Mc Love

tomhenryford wrote: »

I applied for this but I actually have no idea what the day to day job involves. Would anyone like to tell me what they think is involved in lay mans terms?

It says it in the information booklet

sexmag

Mc Love wrote: »

It says it in the information booklet

i cant find it in my downloads, does anyone have a copy they can forward to me so i can reread?

Maldesu

sexmag wrote: »

i cant find it in my downloads, does anyone have a copy they can forward to me so i can reread?

Can someone send it on to me too if ye have it. I'm not at my main comp and want to re-read it

corcraa

Not sure how to send the entire booklet but this is an extract from it!

Tasks and Activities Crime and Policing Analysts may be involved in a range of tasks and activities. These include:
1. Generation of standard and ad hoc reports using information from the PULSE System and other information sources;
2. Using relevant systems and packages to analyse the information required and develop reports;
3. Collating and examining information, identifying anomalies and making links to support particular queries/ requests;
4. Developing an understanding of the research evidence in order to shape the analysis;
5. Developing the service and relationships with colleagues – letting people know what can be done and the benefits it can bring;
6. Supporting the enhancement of analytical reports and techniques;
7. Presentation of work to members of the organisation and key stakeholders;
8. Responding quickly to requests for information;
9. Supporting/ standing in for their Line Manager as required;
10. Providing training to colleagues on specific packages/ approaches as required;
11. Explaining what the data means even if this means delivering bad news or identifying key risks;
12. Working closely with colleagues to share knowledge and new analytical techniques.

This description of the role is not intended to be an exhaustive list of duties and responsibilities and may be reviewed from time to time to reflect the needs of the Analysis Service.

Crunchymomma

Think this is the booklet

Crunchymomma

I wonder will we hear anything this week regarding the stage one testing. CO closed a week earlier and they got stage one link Thursday last week.

I get so antsy waiting for them ha I feel like I have been constantly doing these comps for ages!! Once stage one is through I normally have a fair idea of whether I'm in the running or not

sexmag

Crunchymomma wrote: »

I wonder will we hear anything this week regarding the stage one testing. CO closed a week earlier and they got stage one link Thursday last week.

I get so antsy waiting for them ha I feel like I have been constantly doing these comps for ages!! Once stage one is through I normally have a fair idea of whether I'm in the running or not

Entirely depends on the amount of applications, I wouldn't compare it too other positions as they may have a different filter process

Flippyfloppy

Crunchymomma wrote: »

I wonder will we hear anything this week regarding the stage one testing. CO closed a week earlier and they got stage one link Thursday last week.

I get so antsy waiting for them ha I feel like I have been constantly doing these comps for ages!! Once stage one is through I normally have a fair idea of whether I'm in the running or not

I’m kind of the same. I’m wonder what sort of stuff will come up in stage one. The contestants of the previous round are remaining tight lipped 😀

sexmag

Just got my rejection notice via public jobs.

Good luck everyone

tomhenryford

sexmag wrote: »

Just got my rejection notice via public jobs.

Good luck everyone

Rejected as well. Good luck everyone else.

Mac0783

Aargh the waiting for the rejection is the worst. hurry up PJ

Skip13

tomhenryford wrote: »

Rejected as well. Good luck everyone else.

Sorry to hear that.

CZ 453

sexmag wrote: »

Just got my rejection notice via public jobs.

Good luck everyone

tomhenryford wrote: »

Rejected as well. Good luck everyone else.

Good luck to you both in whatever else you apply for.

Mac0783

Hard luck guys. Any get good news yet?

Maldesu

CZ 453 wrote: »

Good luck to you both in whatever else you apply for.

I didn't know they did rejection letters. Just thought they did the tests and kicked you off that way.

Mc Love

Didn't think they'd announce anything so quickly

Crunchymomma

No rejection notice here, dunno if that means I got through shortlisting or if ijust haven't got my PFO notice yet, anyone get anything positive???

Tipp star

I haven't got any correspondence yet either.. I'm hoping no news is good news. Hard luck to the guys that got the disappointing news and thanks for letting us know.

Flippyfloppy

Nothing here either. Hard luck to those we lost

Mac0783

It's very quiet this morning, anyone hear anything today?

Crunchymomma

Mac0783 wrote: »

It's very quiet this morning, anyone hear anything today?

Not heard anything yet

Maldesu

Same, but anything I've ever gotten from Public Jobs came in around 4pm

Mac0783

Same here but I thought when they'd started in batches they might keep going this morning.

Crunchymomma

Mac0783 wrote: »

Same here but I thought when they'd started in batches they might keep going this morning.

I'm not sure there would be enough applicants to need to send them out in batches.

Laraghcon21

Mac0783 wrote: »

It's very quiet this morning, anyone hear anything today?

Nothing so far

CZ 453

Have the number of positions on offer or applicants been released anywhere?

CK2019

Haven’t heard anything either. But as someone else mentioned it’s always been at least early evening before I’ve got notifications from them.

Maldesu

Mc Love posted a few days ago some articles about the numbers. An old one from 2007, suggested there may be 26 odd places, but also said over 220 applied for the very top jobs (of 3) so the applications may be larger than we think.
A later article posted said there may be around 20 jobs or so.

Mc Love

Maldesu wrote: »

Mc Love posted a few days ago some articles about the numbers. An old one from 2007, suggested there may be 26 odd places, but also said over 220 applied for the very top jobs (of 3) so the applications may be larger than we think.
A later article posted said there may be around 20 jobs or so.

I'd say that one from 2007 was probably the launch of the service given there were that many positions available.

Maldesu

Mc Love wrote: »

I'd say that one from 2007 was probably the launch of the service given there were that many positions available.

Aye, but not a whole lot of movement in 11 years.

mel123

I havnt heard anything either here, good or bad.

I wonder what way they are doing it? I guess they looked through the applications and the first stage is based off experience weather you got through or not? Or anyone any other logical guess?

Mac0783

I called and asked and am no wiser after the call. Apparently they haven't contacted with results yet the only reason they contacted people so far was if there was an issue with their application form. She said they will contact everyone together and it wont be for another few weeks??

sexmag

Mac0783 wrote: »

I called and asked and am no wiser after the call. Apparently they haven't contacted with results yet the only reason they contacted people so far was if there was an issue with their application form. She said they will contact everyone together and it wont be for another few weeks??

Strange,here's what they said to me

"I refer to your application for the above named competition.  Following an examination by this office it has been determined that you have not demonstrated on your application form that you meet the eligibility requirements for this competition. 

 

Therefore, your application can receive no further consideration, on this occasion."

No mention of an error and if there was it's a bit unfair to say I didn't demonstrate the requirements if that's the case

CiaraOCL

I would call to follow up on the basis of the information relayed to the previous poster. The wording could be a bit more tactful if that is the case, but it would be good to find out what happened.
I had a quick scan of the thread from the campaign a few years prior; really hard to ascertain what way they’ll whittle it down to the chosen few. Are online assessments a given with all CS campaigns? I’m incredibly green when it comes to them, but this particular role has really piqued my interest.
I would imagine it will be incredibly competitive gauging by the interest demonstrated by my peer group alone, and that many positions would be filled internally? Hopefully not, and we’ll keep the faith.

rostalof

sexmag wrote: »

Strange,here's what they said to me

"I refer to your application for the above named competition.  Following an examination by this office it has been determined that you have not demonstrated on your application form that you meet the eligibility requirements for this competition. 

 

Therefore, your application can receive no further consideration, on this occasion."

No mention of an error and if there was it's a bit unfair to say I didn't demonstrate the requirements if that's the case

Please don't take this the wrong way, but the previous poster mentioned that the PAS stated that they contacted people with results, "if there was an issue" with the application. They never said there was an error.

The issue may be any number of things. It could be a failure to demonstrate the required experience for the role, or a failure to demonstrate a reasonable understanding of the requirements of the role, or insufficiently outlining career and/or educational achievements "to date which clearly demonstrates your suitability to meet the challenges of the role of Crime and Policing Analyst". (P.4 Application Form)

As other posters have said, by all means, ask the PAS for more detail. You may get a suitable response, but they are quite the masters of ambiguous statements!

yessiryes

Can you ring them and ask them to clarify how you didn't meet eligibility? Sounds strange...

sexmag wrote: »

Strange,here's what they said to me

"I refer to your application for the above named competition.  Following an examination by this office it has been determined that you have not demonstrated on your application form that you meet the eligibility requirements for this competition. 

 

Therefore, your application can receive no further consideration, on this occasion."

No mention of an error and if there was it's a bit unfair to say I didn't demonstrate the requirements if that's the case

ArtfulPodger

I got an email regarding not being eligible and i emailed back to see where i fell down and they said it wasn't clear that my academic qualifications met the required criteria but they were happy to let me proceed in the competition (if i wanted) and at a later stage it would be up to me to prove i have the qualifications.

tomhenryford

If in doubt as to why you have been regarded as ineligible, go and ask them but be quick. I was given the opportunity to resubmit my application due to an error that I didn't know was on it. Ring them and ask ASAP.

tomhenryford

sexmag wrote: »

Strange,here's what they said to me

"I refer to your application for the above named competition.  Following an examination by this office it has been determined that you have not demonstrated on your application form that you meet the eligibility requirements for this competition. 

 

Therefore, your application can receive no further consideration, on this occasion."

No mention of an error and if there was it's a bit unfair to say I didn't demonstrate the requirements if that's the case

Chase it up, worked for me.

gabbyannie

Long time lurker on Boards - first time setting up an account and posting.

Also hoping that no news is good news. Wondering what kind of backgrounds that successful candidates in previous competitions had. Couldn’t gleam much information from other threads.

I have an undergraduate and masters degree in Psychology, and have a solid background in research - albeit in academic settings. Currently work in the private sector in an administration/coordination role. Fingers crossed and best of luck to all ðŸ€