RTE Interview

As for RTE, many times I got as far as the researcher Joe Duffy show who would not give me the time of day because I did not have anything negative to say about electric cars and really , they do seem to have a pro feminist, anti ev and anti Trump agenda in full swing.

ELM327

ELM327 wrote: »

I hope that's not directed at me

Not in the slightest.

ELM327

ELM327 wrote: »

I will have no hassle. My car can do 200km and despite doing over 50k a year I rarely exceed that. No use of public charging at all.


The Kona will have 300+km
The ones after will have 400-500km.


"Infrastructure was not the point" - when I said this I meant of the thread, the thread was for discussing the rte program and the complaint made.

As I said it matters not the range because at some point people will need to charge, your requirements will be different to countless others.

An ev can have 500 or 800 kms range, all people care about is being able to charge while out and about and charge times.

Lots of people go for weekend trips or away for a week or even 2 and they won't have home charging.

People could have a 100 Kwh EV and not plug it in for a week and then suddenly need to go somewhere and then they need public charging, there are all sorts of scenarios where a 300 Km range EV will suit most of the time, myself included but there are times that range is not suitable and this is where the network needs to improve to cater for the increase of ev sales in the coming years.

goz83

Deleted User wrote: »

the same ESB who not long ago tried to convince us that the network is adequate for the amount of electrics on the road.

Which wouldn't be true even if all existing chargers were working.

ELM327

goz83 wrote: »

Which wouldn't be true even if all existing chargers were working.

Unless all existing FCP were replaced with banks of 2, and replaced with 4 in the cities and on MSA.

Deleted User wrote: »

As I said it matters not the range because at some point people will need to charge, your requirements will be different to countless others.

An ev can have 500 or 800 kms range, all people care about is being able to charge while out and about and charge times.

Lots of people go for weekend trips or away for a week or even 2 and they won't have home charging.

People could have a 100 Kwh EV and not plug it in for a week and then suddenly need to go somewhere and then they need public charging, there are all sorts of scenarios where a 300 Km range EV will suit most of the time, myself included but there are times that range is not suitable and this is where the network needs to improve to cater for the increase of ev sales in the coming years.

Is this where the rex comes in handy DONT SHOOT ME

ELM327

ELM327 wrote: »

Is this where the rex comes in handy DONT SHOOT ME

That's where the Rex is essential ! wouldn't have wasted money if the situation with public charging was different I didn't go from lower range EV to longer range EV with Rex for fun , I could have put the money to other uses.

creedp

ELM327 wrote: »

The modern cars are not affected by this as much as before. I will not need to use the public network at all once my home charger is installed at my apartment (despite all 3 people on the radio show saying this didnt happen), other than in a very blue moon. I can get to westport, to wexford etc without charging. I do 50-60k per year. With no public charger use at all, really.



You can't expect to buy a 2011 leaf and have the same luxury, but if your commute is 20km-40km each way then you could have the same thing with home charging. Everyone must find a pricepoint.


Infrastructure is crap but that's not the point here.

The modern / expensive EVs have longer range but many people do not buy new cars or can't afford the investment required to get a decent range EV on the road. For many who don't do massive mileage but have regular longish trips outside urban Ireland, its easy to delay a decision to move from an ICE at this point in time. This is even more so the case with young families as there is no reasonably sized / priced equivalent to an MPV out there at present.

I have an EV but to be honest if I was offered an equivalent sized ICE and EV with similar running costs I would still opt for the ICE as it provides a more reliable means of meeting all my journey requirements at this point in time particularly as I have 4 kids.

In any case, its not completely down to me because while I would be prepared to take the risk of relying on public charging on longer journeys, my wife wouldn't and my kids would go crazy if we ended up hanging around for potentially a couple of works waiting to charge plus charging time.

Calahonda52

Villain wrote: »

Ah will do, there is an archive to right that shows date, the CRU one is from October 2017.

OCT 2017 ! : Time to dust off the gatling, break out a full 9 yds box of ammo and deal with the new kids in town:

1. the multi-car taxi drivers
2. the Teslas hogging the FCPs as well as the other on street CPs.
3. the increase in number of EVs

ps: you may need another box

Villain

Calahonda52 wrote: »

OCT 2017 ! : Time to dust off the gatling, break out a full 9 yds of ammo and deal with the new kids in town:

1. the multi-car taxi drivers
2. the Teslas hogging the FCPs as well as the other on street CPs.
3. the increase in number of EVs

ps: you may need another box

Well nothing has changed regarding the CRU decision or investment really since then sadly!

cros13

creedp wrote: »

The modern / expensive EVs have longer range but many people do not buy new cars or can't afford the investment required to get a decent range EV on the road.

Well the problem there is that unless people buy the cars new they won't be available used in quantity in 3-4 years time.

That's one of the advantages of Norway's approach of just exempting EVs from VAT and registration taxes. People who would otherwise buy 5-series actually go and buy a Model S and people who'd normally buy used, buy new.

cros13

cros13 wrote: »

Well the problem there is that unless people buy the cars new they won't be available used in quantity in 3-4 years time.

That's one of the advantages of Norway's approach of just exempting EVs from VAT and registration taxes. People who would otherwise buy 5-series actually go and buy a Model S and people who'd normally buy used, buy new.

Yes exactly, I got flamed here a while back for having the same opinion because some people thought that the rich shouldn’t be exempt from paying vrt. But they didn’t get the bigger picture and that is that the more electrics on the road the better.

Better to have a Model S on the road than a 5 series Diesel.

Orebro

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Yes exactly, I got flamed here a while back for having the same opinion because some people thought that the rich shouldn’t be exempt from paying vrt. But they didn’t get the bigger picture and that is that the more electrics on the road the better.

Better to have a Model S on the road than a 5 series Diesel.

One of them was me - and I still stand by my assertion that there should be a cap on the VRT relief - no need to subsidize an already weatly person into a luxury car. If anything, make the Leafs and Ioniqs of the world a bit cheaper instead of giving Joe and Jane Moneybags free dosh to exchange the Range Rover for the Model X.

ELM327

Looks like making the formal complaint was more effective than some here initially thought...

https://twitter.com/RTERadio1/status/1011543613631844352

ELM327

Just listened to it there on the podcast. (https://www.rte.ie/radio/utils/radioplayer/rteradioweb.html#!rii=b9%5F10895272%5F15036%5F26%2D06%2D2018%5F) begins at approx 30 minutes in.

Villain

Good stuff they got a slot, far better requesting that than a silly complaint to BAI and good to hear Roger raise the infrastructure issues but would have been good to use the opportunity to raise the CRU mess and put some political pressure on.

Soarer

Pity Roger didn't explain that Mike didn't have to queue for the charger in Cahir. He could've just filled up with petrol and hit the road again.

ELM327

Yes there was a lot of information not covered at all.
I assume as an outsider that the reason they got the slot was due to the complaint being filed.

Either way I don't think this did much for the positivity of EV in ireland, as the previous slot was much longer and more damaging.

Old diesel

Soarer wrote: »

Pity Roger didn't explain that Mike didn't have to queue for the charger in Cahir. He could've just filled up with petrol and hit the road again.

I think Roger comes across as someone a bit nervous re being on the radio.

It's not easy been on the radio if your not 100 percent comfortable with it.

Especially if he's on the phone as well.