Waterford GAA thread - mod warning post #1 and #51

hardybuck

JesusRef wrote: »

I think if Gaultier formed a hurling club they would make steady progress up the grades very quickly.

Passage and Ballygunnar should offer Football and the GAA should end the practice of players playing Hurling with one club and football with another (it's too messy)

Passage and Ballygunnar should also have their own Camogie teams, something that would again drive on improvement in the code which has made huge strides lately,

The last paragraph is actually the trickiest. Ballygunner and Passage are GAA clubs. Camogie and Ladies Football have their own associations.

I would be in favour of the GAA absorbing those associations, but if they don't want to be absorbed they should really be using their own facilities rather than relying on the GAA for everything. That's another messy practice which should be tidied up.

PTH2009

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/we-want-to-ensure-waterford-people-wake-up-the-way-limerick-people-did-feeling-10-feet-tall-870682.html

puzl

Good to hear some of his thoughts and it certainly appears that he doesn't have an inclination for a mass culling. Hopefully some new blood, a fresh approach, rekindled hunger and something positive from the fixture situation and he fan hit the ground as he intends to: running.

I could certainly do with feeling 10 feet tall.

Mastermcgrath

puzl wrote: »

Good to hear some of his thoughts and it certainly appears that he doesn't have an inclination for a mass culling.  Hopefully some new blood, a fresh approach, rekindled hunger and something positive from the fixture situation and he fan hit the ground as he intends to: running.

I could certainly do with feeling 10 feet tall.

Yea his interview with Tomas McCarthy on wlr last week had me feeling a bit more confident about his approach. It was refreshing to hear him saying 'guys aged 28, 29 & 30 don't want to be hearing about 2 or 3 years plans'.  An indirect dig at the previous regime maybe, although he did give Derek McGrath due credit for instilling team morale and togetherness and said he very much wants to keep that going.
Overall seems a very straight talking guy, no bulls**t.

deiseach

Hmm. You wouldn't be able to tell whether Pauric Fanning was a bulls**ter or not based on what he has said. Looks like the kind of stuff a bulls**ter would say. Having said that, he seems to have embraced the role and given the nonsense that proceeded his appointment, that in itself is encouraging.

Onto less contentious matters (I hope). My club count gives me 48:

1 Abbeyside / Ballinacourty
2 An Rinn
3 Ardmore
4 Ballinameela
5 Ballyduff Lower
6 Ballyduff Upper
7 Ballygunner
8 Ballysaggart
9 Brickey Rangers
10 Bunmahon
11 Butlerstown
12 Cappoquin / Affane
13 Clashmore / Kinsalebeg
14 Clonea
15 Colligan
16 De La Salle
17 Dungarvan
18 Dunhill
19 Erins Own
20 Fenor
21 Ferrybank
22 Gaultier
23 Geraldines
24 John Mitchels
25 Kilgobnet
26 Kill
27 Kilmacthomas
28 Kilrossanty
29 Lismore
30 Melleray / Glen Rovers
31 Modeligo
32 Mount Sion
33 Newtown / Ballydurn
34 Old Parish
35 Passage
36 Portlaw
37 Rathgormack
38 Roanmore
39 Shamrocks
40 Sliabh gCua / St Mary's
41 St Mollerans
42 St Pauls
43 St Saviours
44 Stradbally
45 Tallow
46 The Nire / Fourmilewater
47 Tourin / Ballinwillin
48 Tramore

If you have one pitch, you're one club. I've checked each pitch on the rather magnificent GAA Pitch Finder. So if you are the treasurer of any of these clubs, you can look forward to €2,083.33 from JP, with 16 cents left over to put towards a light bulb in one of the jacks in the new Walsh Park.

(E&OE)

PTH2009

deiseach wrote: »

Hmm. You wouldn't be able to tell whether Pauric Fanning was a bulls**ter or not based on what he has said. Looks like the kind of stuff a bulls**ter would say. Having said that, he seems to have embraced the role and given the nonsense that proceeded his appointment, that in itself is encouraging.

Onto less contentious matters (I hope). My club count gives me 48:

1 Abbeyside / Ballinacourty
2 An Rinn
3 Ardmore
4 Ballinameela
5 Ballyduff Lower
6 Ballyduff Upper
7 Ballygunner
8 Ballysaggart
9 Brickey Rangers
10 Bunmahon
11 Butlerstown
12 Cappoquin / Affane
13 Clashmore / Kinsalebeg
14 Clonea
15 Colligan
16 De La Salle
17 Dungarvan
18 Dunhill
19 Erins Own
20 Fenor
21 Ferrybank
22 Gaultier
23 Geraldines
24 John Mitchels
25 Kilgobnet
26 Kill
27 Kilmacthomas
28 Kilrossanty
29 Lismore
30 Melleray / Glen Rovers
31 Modeligo
32 Mount Sion
33 Newtown / Ballydurn
34 Old Parish
35 Passage
36 Portlaw
37 Rathgormack
38 Roanmore
39 Shamrocks
40 Sliabh gCua / St Mary's
41 St Mollerans
42 St Pauls
43 St Saviours
44 Stradbally
45 Tallow
46 The Nire / Fourmilewater
47 Tourin / Ballinwillin
48 Tramore

If you have one pitch, you're one club. I've checked each pitch on the rather magnificent GAA Pitch Finder. So if you are the treasurer of any of these clubs, you can look forward to €2,083.33 from JP, with 16 cents left over to put towards a light bulb in one of the jacks in the new Walsh Park.

(E&OE)

Ah the money could be resting in someone's account

JesusRef

deiseach wrote: »

Hmm. You wouldn't be able to tell whether Pauric Fanning was a bulls**ter or not based on what he has said. Looks like the kind of stuff a bulls**ter would say. Having said that, he seems to have embraced the role and given the nonsense that proceeded his appointment, that in itself is encouraging.

Onto less contentious matters (I hope). My club count gives me 48:

1 Abbeyside / Ballinacourty
2 An Rinn
3 Ardmore
4 Ballinameela
5 Ballyduff Lower
6 Ballyduff Upper
7 Ballygunner
8 Ballysaggart
9 Brickey Rangers
10 Bunmahon
11 Butlerstown
12 Cappoquin / Affane
13 Clashmore / Kinsalebeg
14 Clonea
15 Colligan
16 De La Salle
17 Dungarvan
18 Dunhill
19 Erins Own
20 Fenor
21 Ferrybank
22 Gaultier
23 Geraldines
24 John Mitchels
25 Kilgobnet
26 Kill
27 Kilmacthomas
28 Kilrossanty
29 Lismore
30 Melleray / Glen Rovers
31 Modeligo
32 Mount Sion
33 Newtown / Ballydurn
34 Old Parish
35 Passage
36 Portlaw
37 Rathgormack
38 Roanmore
39 Shamrocks
40 Sliabh gCua / St Mary's
41 St Mollerans
42 St Pauls
43 St Saviours
44 Stradbally
45 Tallow
46 The Nire / Fourmilewater
47 Tourin / Ballinwillin
48 Tramore

If you have one pitch, you're one club. I've checked each pitch on the rather magnificent GAA Pitch Finder. So if you are the treasurer of any of these clubs, you can look forward to €2,083.33 from JP, with 16 cents left over to put towards a light bulb in one of the jacks in the new Walsh Park.

(E&OE)

Nice work!

enoughtaken

JesusRef wrote: »

deiseach wrote: »

Hmm. You wouldn't be able to tell whether Pauric Fanning was a bulls**ter or not based on what he has said. Looks like the kind of stuff a bulls**ter would say. Having said that, he seems to have embraced the role and given the nonsense that proceeded his appointment, that in itself is encouraging.

Onto less contentious matters (I hope). My club count gives me 48:

1 Abbeyside / Ballinacourty
2 An Rinn
3 Ardmore
4 Ballinameela
5 Ballyduff Lower
6 Ballyduff Upper
7 Ballygunner
8 Ballysaggart
9 Brickey Rangers
10 Bunmahon
11 Butlerstown
12 Cappoquin / Affane
13 Clashmore / Kinsalebeg
14 Clonea
15 Colligan
16 De La Salle
17 Dungarvan
18 Dunhill
19 Erins Own
20 Fenor
21 Ferrybank
22 Gaultier
23 Geraldines
24 John Mitchels
25 Kilgobnet
26 Kill
27 Kilmacthomas
28 Kilrossanty
29 Lismore
30 Melleray / Glen Rovers
31 Modeligo
32 Mount Sion
33 Newtown / Ballydurn
34 Old Parish
35 Passage
36 Portlaw
37 Rathgormack
38 Roanmore
39 Shamrocks
40 Sliabh gCua / St Mary's
41 St Mollerans
42 St Pauls
43 St Saviours
44 Stradbally
45 Tallow
46 The Nire / Fourmilewater
47 Tourin / Ballinwillin
48 Tramore

If you have one pitch, you're one club. I've checked each pitch on the rather magnificent GAA Pitch Finder. So if you are the treasurer of any of these clubs, you can look forward to €2,083.33 from JP, with 16 cents left over to put towards a light bulb in one of the jacks in the new Walsh Park.

(E&OE)

Nice work!

The Nire / Fourmilewater are two seperate clubs.

Teebor15

enoughtaken wrote: »

The Nire / Fourmilewater are two seperate clubs.

Same pitch, same management, same players. Taking the piss if they look for a double handout!

deiseach

Did I say less contentious? Some hope

mountgomery burns

Teebor15 wrote: »

Same pitch, same management, same players. Taking the piss if they look for a double handout!

Depends, if they conduct all activities adminstratively as separate clubs then I could see why. For example, if they paid the levy twice then that would be grounds for receiving a double allocation of whatever sum is to be divided amongst the clubs.

deiseach

mountgomery burns wrote: »

Depends, if they conduct all activities adminstratively as separate clubs then I could see why. For example, if they paid the levy twice then that would be grounds for receiving a double allocation of whatever sum is to be divided amongst the clubs.

Jamie Barron says they are the same club:

All-Star hurler Jamie Barron turns his hand to the bigger ball on Sunday when The Nire face Killarney's Dr Crokes in the Munster Club SFC final.

The Nire's sister hurling club Fourmilewater reached the county quarter-final this year and the Waterford man says the club's novel approach to dual players has allowed them to compete at senior level in both codes.

“It's one parish, the area is called Ballymacarbry," he explains. "You’ve The Nire at one side of it, and Fourmilewater is the other side, it’s all the same lads. It’s the same club.

"We do 50-50 in the club. Benji Whelan is the manager of the hurling and the football.

"If we have hurling in two weeks’ time we’ll hurl for the two weeks coming into that, if we’ve football we’ll stick with football. So it keeps alternating - whatever needs to be done, is done.

"Before we were always having problems. One manager over the football would want training on a Wednesday and the hurling manager would be the same. It didn’t work so that’s why we got Benji in and it’s working for us.

“He gets in a trainer every now and again. He gets in Michael Ryan who used to train Waterford, he’s in our parish. Then we’ve Jerome Stack training us in football every now and again. He works it like that to keep it fresh and keep everyone interested."

Then again, saying they are separate clubs might be technically correct, which is the best kind of correct. It would be interesting to know either way.

Giveitfong

The Waterford GAA website contains a list of adult clubs which lists Fourmilewater and the Nire separately, with different officials.


Colligan should be Colligan/Emmets.


The website also has a list of juvenile clubs which includes the following group teams:


An Ghaeltacht
St Carthages
Cois Bhríde
Clanna Gael
Naomh Bríd
St Marys
St Olivers
St Patricks


To the extent that these bear similar costs as clubs which have their own juvenile teams, they merit some share of JP's largesse. I am sure the County Board will work out some way of throwing them a few bob out of the windfall pot.

mountgomery burns

deiseach wrote: »

Jamie Barron says they are the same club:



Then again, saying they are separate clubs might be technically correct, which is the best kind of correct. It would be interesting to know either way.

Well from a players perspective that may be so, but if they are operating from separate budgets with different treasurers, secretaries and chairpersons then they would be individual clubs. Also, while it may not occur, I would imagine players have the option say of playing football for the Nire and hurling for Clonea Power if they so wished.

Not too pushed about the debate regarding JPs money though as we have no idea how that will be distributed. Have they even proposed a new levy for the stadium? Conceivably, they could just factor the allocation into the levy to get it back anyway...

deise08

Was listening to Joe Duffy the other day and there was a girl on complaining about the gift.
Apparently, according to her, camogie and football doesn't fall under the GAA ?

upthedeise16

deiseach wrote: »

Jamie Barron says they are the same club:



Then again, saying they are separate clubs might be technically correct, which is the best kind of correct. It would be interesting to know either way.

If they pay 2 different county levies, seperate insurance, seperate registration to Croke Park and seperate affiliation, then they are 2 clubs I suppose and I know they have separate ticket allocations for matches

Teebor15

deise08 wrote: »

Was listening to Joe Duffy the other day and there was a girl on complaining about the gift.
Apparently, according to her, camogie and football doesn't fall under the GAA ?

She wasn't saying that but was having a right whinge looking for her slice of the pie. The guy who came on debating it with her was. He was correctly pointing out that the GAA consists of 3 sports, Hurling, Gaelic football and Handball. Camoige is not part of the GAA and has it's own organisation. Ladies Football is not part of the GAA and also has it's own separate organisation. They are very similiar sports to the mens equivalent but are not the same.

They are not part of the GAA because historically the GAA was set up just to facilitate men's sports. So in fairness to the ladies they set up their own sports and organisations and have resisted amalgamating into the GAA, probably for fear of not getting equal treatment and preferring to stand alone and look after there own affairs.

JP McManus sent a cheque to every GAA county board with €100,000 to be divided equally to the club's. He didn't send the cheque to the county boards of the camoige or ladies football. I'm sure JP didn't realise they were separate to the GAA and meant no harm but it is what it is.

She was saying the girls put in the same effort and deserve the benefit..she was painful to listen to. Does she not realise that if the money is spent on facilities at club grounds then the girls will benefit as nearly all ladies football and Camoige club's use GAA grounds.

Mastermcgrath

deise08 wrote: »

Was listening to Joe Duffy the other day and there was a girl on complaining about the gift.

A bit like Trocaire giving out about donations made to Concern

deise08

Thanks teebor that was a great post.

Not had it on in the car so didn't get to hear too much..

Gardner

i think this should be shared on the Waterford GAA forum since Bill Kenneally was a member of a Waterford GAA Club and would appeal to any member of the public to come forward with information.

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/victims-waterford-paedophile-basketball-coach-13322585

PTH2009

Eastern intermediate hurling final
Clonea 0-22- Erins Own 0-19

PTH2009

Western Junior A hurling final result
Ballinameela 3-15- Colligan 2-15

Junior A County final betweeen Tramore and Ballinameela will be played next Sunday before the Senior final at 13.15 in Fraher Field

PTH2009

A bit of a Shock in the West

Clashmore 4-15- Ballysaggart 3-15 in the western intermediate hurling final. Delighted for the club

Intermediate county final is Clonea vs Clashmore

cul beag

PTH2009 wrote: »

A bit of a Shock in the West

Clashmore 4-15- Ballysaggart 3-15 in the western intermediate hurling final. Delighted for the club

Intermediate county final is Clonea vs Clashmore

Definitely the better team on the day and DeBurca was majestic at centre back. Straight red card for Kieran Bennett didn’t help Ballysaggart’s cause near the end of the game.

PTH2009

https://twitter.com/tomasmcc/status/1046473173535985670?s=19

thesultan

cul beag wrote: »

PTH2009 wrote: »

A bit of a Shock in the West

Clashmore 4-15- Ballysaggart 3-15 in the western intermediate hurling final. Delighted for the club

Intermediate county final is Clonea vs Clashmore

Definitely the better team on the day and DeBurca was majestic at centre back. Straight red card for Kieran Bennett didn’t help Ballysaggart’s cause near the end of the game.

It was a massive turning point in the game.

mickotallow

thesultan wrote: »

It was a massive turning point in the game.

Definite red card though. Discipline was an issue all day. Stephen was very lucky not to see ref aswell. Struck a player on the ground which the linesman reported to the ref for a yellow. On last play of the game he committed a blatant frontal charge on a Clashmore defender which warranted a second yellow but ref blew for full time instead.
Ballysaggart were red hot favourites but Clashmore were full value for their victory. Were the better team all round. Their two main stars De Burca and O’Halloran showed very well and their attitude put Ballysaggart’s main stars to shame. O’Connor in full forward, Thrihy and the young number 5 ( Walsh I think) were their next best performers along with E O’Halloran in midfield.
Best of luck to them in the County

cul beag

mickotallow wrote: »

Definite red card though. Discipline was an issue all day. Stephen was very lucky not to see ref aswell. Struck a player on the ground which the linesman reported to the ref for a yellow. On last play of the game he committed a blatant frontal charge on a Clashmore defender which warranted a second yellow but ref blew for full time instead.
Ballysaggart were red hot favourites but Clashmore were full value for their victory. Were the better team all round. Their two main stars De Burca and O’Halloran showed very well and their attitude put Ballysaggart’s main stars to shame. O’Connor in full forward, Thrihy and the young number 5 ( Walsh I think) were their next best performers along with E O’Halloran in midfield.
Best of luck to them in the County

Summed up perfectly to be fair. The Ballysaggart fullback line was clearly out of their depth aswell and looked in trouble every time the ball went in there.

PTH2009

Bonds well tbh but the same is siad for most guys who move to different setups

http://www.the42.ie/paraic-fanning-lee-chin-waterford-4264071-Oct2018/

Any news on Brick and Moran staying around ?

whiteandblue

PTH2009 wrote: »

Bonds well tbh but the same is siad for most guys who move to different setups

http://www.the42.ie/paraic-fanning-lee-chin-waterford-4264071-Oct2018/

Any news on Brick and Moran staying around ?

I believe Moran is anyway