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Where are the 2015 no voters now?

  • 22-05-2018 4:40pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭


    Something I've thought about over the last week or so, and brought up myself in a thread. What are the opinions of people who opposed the marriage equality laws now, 3 years on . We've had no falling skies, to the best of my knowledge no one's male - female marriage is devalued in any way.

    Is it a case that once it's done and the opposition is proven to have no basis that they just want people to forget they opposed it and then they move on to oppose the next thing?

    It just seemed to all go very quiet right after the referendum.......


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 18,266 Mod ✭✭✭✭CatFromHue


    we really voted to turn Ireland gay so they're all gay now


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,492 ✭✭✭pleas advice


    They all moved to Roscommon / South Leitrim


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    CatFromHue wrote: »
    we really voted to turn Ireland gay so they're all gay now

    I was wondering what that was. Must tell the missus. Tbh I'm not sure if she'll be happy, sad or uninterested that I'm gay now :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,349 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    They were all forced to have a gay wedding themselves, so hopefully they’re happy now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,636 ✭✭✭feargale


    Something I've thought about over the last week or so, and brought up myself in a thread. What are the opinions of people who opposed the marriage equality laws now, 3 years on . We've had no falling skies, to the best of my knowledge no one's male - female marriage is devalued in any way.

    Is it a case that once it's done and the opposition is proven to have no basis that they just want people to forget they opposed it and then they move on to oppose the next thing?

    It just seemed to all go very quiet right after the referendum.......

    They lost the referendum and took their beating like men. What do you want them to do? Seek another referendum to overthrow the previous result? You can only do that when the people vote the wrong way in a referendum relevant to the EU. Or, oh sorry! I forgot about Zimbabwe.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,212 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    They are still out their and there beliefs haven't changed in my experience.
    Some are homophobic and some are religious. Same as the Yes voters.
    I have followed some of these people on social media and they have major issues with the gay agenda constantly being promoted.
    Some simply don't believe in same sex marriage still. If they were invited to one they probably wouldn't go because they'd be seen as accepting it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,667 ✭✭✭Hector Bellend


    Something I've thought about over the last week or so, and brought up myself in a thread. What are the opinions of people who opposed the marriage equality laws now, 3 years on . We've had no falling skies, to the best of my knowledge no one's male - female marriage is devalued in any way.

    Is it a case that once it's done and the opposition is proven to have no basis that they just want people to forget they opposed it and then they move on to oppose the next thing?

    It just seemed to all go very quiet right after the referendum.......

    Do you start threads about everyone who disagrees with you?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    feargale wrote: »
    They lost the referendum and took their beating like men. What do you want them to do? Seek another referendum to overthrow the previous result? You can only do that when the people vote the wrong way in a referendum relevant to the EU. Or, oh sorry! I forgot about Zimbabwe.

    I never said they should do anything. I asked what their opinions are now that none of the scaremongering has proven to have any basis.

    Presumably they are still opposed to it but I'm wondering if they've come up with new reasons.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,439 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    Something I've thought about over the last week or so, and brought up myself in a thread. What are the opinions of people who opposed the marriage equality laws now, 3 years on . We've had no falling skies, to the best of my knowledge no one's male - female marriage is devalued in any way.

    Is it a case that once it's done and the opposition is proven to have no basis that they just want people to forget they opposed it and then they move on to oppose the next thing?

    It just seemed to all go very quiet right after the referendum.......


    It's not on the table any more is all. Both sides thankfully went quiet after the referendum, as they do after every referendum, and people just carry on about their lives. It happens after referenda which fail too - people go quiet and just go about their daily lives.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,253 ✭✭✭Stonedpilot


    Something I've thought about over the last week or so, and brought up myself in a thread. What are the opinions of people who opposed the marriage equality laws now, 3 years on . We've had no falling skies, to the best of my knowledge no one's male - female marriage is devalued in any way.

    Is it a case that once it's done and the opposition is proven to have no basis that they just want people to forget they opposed it and then they move on to oppose the next thing?

    It just seemed to all go very quiet right after the referendum.......

    What was interesting about that was two of the anti gay marraige men who debated it fiercely were gay men!.

    Paddy Manning was one forget the other guys name.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Do you start threads about everyone who disagrees with you?

    Maybe we could separate boards in to sections only for the people who agree on topics. Just take the discussion part out of forums altogether?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,487 ✭✭✭Mutant z


    Who cares why is it even relevant what they are doing now much like it won't be relevant what anyone who will be voting in the abortion referendum will be doing 3 years from now.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,218 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    Something I've thought about over the last week or so, and brought up myself in a thread. What are the opinions of people who opposed the marriage equality laws now, 3 years on . We've had no falling skies, to the best of my knowledge no one's male - female marriage is devalued in any way.

    Is it a case that once it's done and the opposition is proven to have no basis that they just want people to forget they opposed it and then they move on to oppose the next thing?

    It just seemed to all go very quiet right after the referendum.......

    They've gone to one of these
    https://goo.gl/images/Ghmss5
    and they aren't coming out until Ronan Mullen gives the all clear.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Didn't stds go through the roof in "the community" though..like up 30 or 40 % in a year?

    God was angry..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,624 ✭✭✭Working class heroes


    What was interesting about that was two of the anti gay marraige men who debated it fiercely were gay men!.

    Paddy Manning was one forget the other guys name.

    They are now man and em wife.

    Racism is now hiding behind the cloak of Community activism.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,590 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Aren't all weddings a bit gay?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,888 ✭✭✭Atoms for Peace


    I intended to vote Yes, but on the day i voted No.:o Bit of an idioit decision i'll admit, but I never doudted it would fail but just got sick of the likes of panty bliss and decided to stick it to the "liberal agenda".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,439 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    Maybe we could separate boards in to sections only for the people who agree on topics. Just take the discussion part out of forums altogether?


    That's pretty much what's happened already, which is why you don't see too many people around who voted no in the last referendum. It doesn't mean they've disappeared, they just discuss these topics elsewhere, which is pretty much why Boards is dying on it's arse and other social media platforms are thriving at their expense.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,293 ✭✭✭✭Mint Sauce


    They will probably go to the same places as the all those who voted the losing side on Friday, and get on with their lives.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,691 ✭✭✭s3rtvdbwfj81ch


    I intended to vote Yes, but on the day i voted No.:o Bit of an idioit decision i'll admit, but I never doudted it would fail but just got sick of the likes of panty bliss and decided to stick it to the "liberal agenda".

    you're grand, I know a fella who was voting "No" until he had a last minute attack of conscience, so you kind of cancelled each other out.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,253 ✭✭✭Stonedpilot


    I intended to vote Yes, but on the day i voted No.:o Bit of an idioit decision i'll admit, but I never doudted it would fail but just got sick of the likes of panty bliss and decided to stick it to the "liberal agenda".

    Panty milked it for all its worth. A shameless self promoter.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 302 ✭✭AfterLife


    Mint Sauce wrote: »
    They will probably go to the same places as the all those who voted the losing side on Friday, and get on with their lives.

    I really hope the referendum passes on Friday mainly because I think it's the right thing to happen but also because if it doesn't pass it will be a complete ****show and there will be quite a lot of people not getting on with their lives I fear.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,590 ✭✭✭✭kneemos




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    kneemos wrote: »

    Who's agenda got the u2 albums on every iPhone? :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,143 ✭✭✭Auguste Comte


    I'd say they are hanging around with the hello divorce, bye bye Daddy crowd praying for God to save the sinful world.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,439 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    I'd say they are hanging around with the hello divorce, bye bye Daddy crowd praying for God to save the sinful world.


    There are plenty of people who voted no who also have no tolerance for people who are religious. It's not as though the two are mutually exclusive. Some people just don't like other people who aren't them. The results of any referenda doesn't actually change people and it doesn't change what they did or didn't believe about other people either before or after any referendum.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,063 ✭✭✭Kiwi in IE


    Something I've thought about over the last week or so, and brought up myself in a thread. What are the opinions of people who opposed the marriage equality laws now, 3 years on . We've had no falling skies, to the best of my knowledge no one's male - female marriage is devalued in any way.

    Is it a case that once it's done and the opposition is proven to have no basis that they just want people to forget they opposed it and then they move on to oppose the next thing?

    It just seemed to all go very quiet right after the referendum.......

    They are currently preoccupied with trying to keep bodily autonomy for women outlawed. Too busy with that to worry about LGBTQ relationships presently.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 969 ✭✭✭Greybottle


    Well my 'oul fella voted No and he died last year.

    Make out of that what you will.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,478 ✭✭✭eeguy


    I'd love to go back over the opposition posters for the last few referenda and see if any of it actually came through.

    I remember a Sinn Fein one for the Nice Treaty saying we'd all be drafted into an EU army and lose our sovereignty. There's was another one saying the Europe would crush Irish farming and we'd have no say in the EU parliament.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Greybottle wrote: »

    Make out of that what you will.

    God is gay and he smited him?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    eeguy wrote: »
    I'd love to go back over the opposition posters for the last few referenda and see if any of it actually came through.

    I remember a Sinn Fein one for the Nice Treaty saying we'd all be drafted into an EU army and lose our sovereignty. There's was another one saying the Europe would crush Irish farming and we'd have no say in the EU parliament.

    And we'd all be working for €1.27 an hour or some such.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,557 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    They all moved to Roscommon / South Leitrim

    North Leitrim some liberal stronghold or something?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,312 ✭✭✭paw patrol


    I'd say most of the No voters are living their lives as usua,l in the democracy that is Ireland, realising like rational people sometimes you win the vote and sometimes you lose.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,872 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Who's agenda got the u2 albums on every iPhone? :)
    Definitely not the gays!
    Not guilty on that one lol


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 219 ✭✭FingerDeKat


    lawred2 wrote: »
    North Leitrim some liberal stronghold or something?
    No , just nobdy lives there


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,439 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    Kiwi in IE wrote: »
    They are currently preoccupied with trying to keep bodily autonomy for women outlawed. Too busy with that to worry about LGBTQ relationships presently.


    Nobody is campaigning to keep bodily autonomy for women outlawed? Bodily autonomy has never been an absolute right for anyone in the first place, regardless of their sex. There are also plenty of people who are LGBT who voted no in the marriage equality referendum as they saw it as an attack on their culture in a heteronormative society, and there are plenty of women who are campaigning for a no vote in the upcoming referendum, and regardless of the outcome will still have a greater influence than the law over the people in their lives than complete strangers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,189 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    Something I've thought about over the last week or so, and brought up myself in a thread. What are the opinions of people who opposed the marriage equality laws now, 3 years on . We've had no falling skies, to the best of my knowledge no one's male - female marriage is devalued in any way.

    I get this feeling after every referendum. Before each EU vote we were told that we would become part of the EU army & have to go to war etc. Even going back to the divorce referendum we were promised all sorts of evil things would rain down on us.

    Same thing will happen here people against abortion won't have abortions. People who feel they have no option will have an abortion as they do now in England anyway. The main difference is after this referendum woman and men can get proper care before during & afterwards without having to travel outs the country.

    My money is that the world won't end after the result next Friday


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,239 ✭✭✭Jimbob1977


    The Thought Police have rounded them up.

    They are incarcerated at the Ministry of Truth in Dun Laoghaire.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,218 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    eeguy wrote: »
    I'd love to go back over the opposition posters for the last few referenda and see if any of it actually came through.

    I remember a Sinn Fein one for the Nice Treaty saying we'd all be drafted into an EU army and lose our sovereignty. There's was another one saying the Europe would crush Irish farming and we'd have no say in the EU parliament.

    The left generally suspected that essentially the EU would lead to NATO membership. It's a cold war era thing that still lingers in some parts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,557 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    No , just nobdy lives there

    That sounds lovely


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,005 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    eeguy wrote: »
    I'd love to go back over the opposition posters for the last few referenda and see if any of it actually came through.

    I remember a Sinn Fein one for the Nice Treaty saying we'd all be drafted into an EU army and lose our sovereignty. There's was another one saying the Europe would crush Irish farming and we'd have no say in the EU parliament.

    I think it was Labour had pro-Lisbon posters asking for a yes vote for “jobs and stability”. Then the EU gladly raped us when the economy tanked.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,676 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    I'd hazard a guess most of those who voted NO in 2015 will also be voting NO this Friday.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,770 ✭✭✭oceanman


    Zebra3 wrote: »
    I think it was Labour had pro-Lisbon posters asking for a yes vote for “jobs and stability”. Then the EU gladly raped us when the economy tanked.
    yeah that was labour alright I think, thankfully gone now never to return I hope...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,641 ✭✭✭✭road_high


    NIMAN wrote: »
    I'd hazard a guess most of those who voted NO in 2015 will also be voting NO this Friday.

    There's a common theme with them all usually- No to contraception, no to Divorce, no to Gay Marriage, no to Abortion....you can see the pattern here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,212 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    road_high wrote: »
    There's a common theme with them all usually- No to contraception, no to Divorce, no to Gay Marriage, no to Abortion....you can see the pattern here.

    I know some of them and they softened to a lot but there's no softening to Friday!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    Don't think the two referendums are in anyway similar


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,590 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    road_high wrote: »
    There's a common theme with them all usually- No to contraception, no to Divorce, no to Gay Marriage, no to Abortion....you can see the pattern here.


    No.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,732 ✭✭✭BarryD2


    .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,478 ✭✭✭eeguy


    road_high wrote: »
    There's a common theme with them all usually- No to contraception, no to Divorce, no to Gay Marriage, no to Abortion....you can see the pattern here.

    Some people are naturally conservative, and it's been shown that people get more conservative as they get older.

    I think that you need to respect the views of those on both sides, and understand why they hold those views.

    My gran voted no in the marriage referendum. To her and many of her generation, marriage is sacred between a man and woman. Ridiculing and sneering at the other side isn't constructive. It just forces them further into their beliefs and divides the argument. Better to explain and enlighten people of a different view.

    I'm going to vote yes on Friday, but personally I disagree with on demand abortion entirely. But, since there's no way to have a constructive argument while the 8th is in place, I'm all for removing it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,189 ✭✭✭✭Sleeper12


    road_high wrote:
    There's a common theme with them all usually- No to contraception, no to Divorce, no to Gay Marriage, no to Abortion....you can see the pattern here.


    No? :)


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