Disciplining Children AKA Back in my day they behaved.

qwerty ui op

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Does not exist anymore really.

I think we need to bring back parental physical discipline of children. I don't mean beatings but "hidings" could be in. This is as nature intended to keep the sprogs in check.

We have moved away from that and the result is not good. Children with zero discipline, respect and no direction.

Only going to get worse.

Time to take control. The politically correct world is on it's last legs. People want common sense. This is part of restoring the balance.

How come some people are always looking at the past with rose-tinted glasses.

First thing you should do is take the vast majority of traditional parenting methods from all part of the world and throw that pile of **** into the bin.
It didn't work!!

Your Face

Superplex off the top rope.

That will quieten any child.

recyclebin

Change the wifi password. Thatll learn them.

riffmongous

Your Face wrote: »

Superplex off the top rope.

That will quieten any child.

Unless the reverse it of course

wexford awake

Nothing wrong with giving children four to six slaps across the arse or back of legs. Europe and their crap has made it illegal to physically discipline children. Kids were happier in the 70s 80s and 90s because we were simply tougher because we got tough love at home. Moddle coddling is more harmful than a slap.

Billy86

Hitting children makes them happy. Well there we have it folks, lock the thread up because that one's going to be difficult to top.

whisky_galore

wexford awake wrote: »

Nothing wrong with giving children four to six slaps across the arse or back of legs. Europe and their crap has made it illegal to physically discipline children. Kids were happier in the 70s 80s and 90s because we were simply tougher because we got tough love at home. Moddle coddling is more harmful than a slap.

A few good kicks up the hole.

Happy days.

wexford awake

Suppose its quicker 😆

freshpopcorn

The quarterly children are misbehaving more than ever thread!

super_furry

Weird to see so many people so eager to hit children.

qwerty ui op

wexford awake wrote: »

Nothing wrong with giving children four to six slaps across the arse or back of legs. Europe and their crap has made it illegal to physically discipline children. Kids were happier in the 70s 80s and 90s because we were simply tougher because we got tough love at home. Moddle coddling is more harmful than a slap.

Toughen um up eeh! by that logic we should all be building torture chambers for our children. Make them super tough for the big bad world out there.

wexford awake

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qwerty ui op wrote: »

wexford awake wrote: »

Nothing wrong with giving children four to six slaps across the arse or back of legs. Europe and their crap has made it illegal to physically discipline children. Kids were happier in the 70s 80s and 90s because we were simply tougher because we got tough love at home. Moddle coddling is more harmful than a slap.

Toughen um up eeh! by that logic we should all be building torture chambers for our children. Make them super tough for the big bad world out there.

See that's the problem, children have become like fragile ornaments. I mention a few smacks and you equate it to torture. No wonder kids Today are spoiled sh**ts.

c68zapdsm5i1ru

wexford awake wrote: »

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See that's the problem, children have become like fragile ornaments. I mention a few smacks and you equate it to torture. No wonder kids Today are spoiled sh**ts.

Well, they're being spoiled by a generation who were used to getting a few whacks from the wooden spoon when they were younger.

Seriously, there are better ways to discipline a child. I agree a lot of children nowadays seem to get away with murder, but it's not because their parents don't hit them. It's because their parents don't control them, say 'no' to them, back up teachers or neighbours who complain about their behaviour etc.

Liam McPoyle

super_furry wrote: »

Weird to see so many people so eager to hit children.

It's funny.

I would have always been pro smacking (I mean for serious matters and at that, only a smack on the Arse or hand) but since becoming a dad I don't think I could ever bring myself to smack my child. I'd go so far as saying the thought of it actually horrifies me. Myself and my siblings got the wooden spoon by times growing up, weirdly it was always my mam, and i don't think it did us any harm.

qwerty ui op

wexford awake wrote: »

See

See that's the problem, children have become like fragile ornaments. I mention a few smacks and you equate it to torture. No wonder kids Today are spoiled sh**ts.

No I didn't I was pointing out how crazy this toughen them up thinking is...

What have you seen in real life to make you think children are now like fragile ornaments ?

What have you seen to make you believe children are spoiled?

Bitches Be Trypsin

There's ways to discipline kids other than physically. Change the WiFi password, remove iPad/phone/Xbox whatever, make it a long time thing, Eg. A week. Longer lasting behavioural correction as opposed to a stinging arse for five minutes.

Neyite

Children are funny wee yokes. My child would be exactly the kind of kid you could break wooden spoons on and he'd remain defiant, and become more badly behaved if you physically punished him. Change the wifi password or threaten to remove the bedtime story though and he's putty in my hands.

Tbh, slapping kids is lazy or ignorant parenting IMO. My parents did it because looking back their parenting knowledge was limited to their own upbringings which were quite bleak and harsh. But when they saw their grandchildren being reared without getting slapped and turning out just as well as their parents did, they realised that there are other, more effective ways to discipline and correct poor behaviour, and mam has often said she wished she had the knowledge and resources back then that we have now.

LirW

Ah yeah, everyone not hitting their children is a mollycoddling left-wing socialist.

If you can't raise your kids and discipline them without getting physical I feel really sorry for you.


Every generation ever gave out about the kids of the following generations because they aren't as amazing as yourself.
I'd say that today's kids are doing well. Most of them are pretty smart, compassionate and ambitious. Yes, there are a few outlaws but people are portraying that there are only marauding gangs of kids in restaurants (I genuinely couldn't tell you when the last time was misbehaved kids came to my attention in a restaurant). When I see kids throwing absolute millennium fits, pretty much all parents do something about it and it usually works.
When mine misbehaves he gets the bollocking he deserves, there are thousands of ways to deal with bad behavior than giving them a smack.

farmerwifelet

I think parenting classes should be mandatory - and I don't mean the baby ones when you are expecting more on the lines of triple p parenting. Just because you can have a child doesn't automatically mean you know how to raise one!

I think it would benefit parents and when they choose their own parenting style then fair enough but some basics would be great for all.

corner of hells

farmerwifelet wrote: »

I think parenting classes should be mandatory - and I don't mean the baby ones when you are expecting more on the lines of triple p parenting. Just because you can have a child doesn't automatically mean you know how to raise one!

I think it would benefit parents and when they choose their own parenting style then fair enough but some basics would be great for all.

So I could drop my kids to these classes and head out for a pint ?
I like the way you're thinking.

LirW

I think it would benefit parents and when they choose their own parenting style then fair enough but some basics would be great for all.

That's all well and good but the basics and every good parenting book in the world doesn't prepare you for the real life misbehaviour of kids and it can sometimes really wear you down. Have a super picky eater at home that plain out refuses anything and you've tried every good and bad advice that is out there and nothing worked, but you don't wanna give in and raise the child on nuggets and waffles.
There are plenty of situations nobody prepares you for (and can't prepare you) but they need to be handled delicately enough.

Whispered

There's a lot of info out there re parenting if parents bother to check. Parenting classes are all well and good but if you can't be bothered researching a bit yourself you're not likely to implement suggestions from a mandatory parenting class.

I have a toddler, I get away for an evening very rarely. An annoying/noisy child in a restaurant does my head in because I'm there to get away from that. But I don't think that's bad behaviour, it's kids being kids and not properly managed by the adults.

I have a severe lack of patience, I don't hit, I've pulled my hand back to a few times and look at each time as a failure on my part. Failure to read the situation, help my son deal with whatever is going on, to sufficiently control my reaction to being annoyed etc

I'm not a walkover by any means, but I don't think hitting my son is the road I'd go down when it comes to discipline.

PictureFrame

I'm a Child Psychologist by trade and would be absolutely appauled at the thoughts of using physical violence to discipline a child, it doesn't work and is a really bad sign if adults cannot use their common sense and a bit of tact to teach their children right from wrong and instead have to use violence, no matter what form it takes.

From a personal sense I grew up with a parent who would utilise slapping as a way of discipline, i've seen first hand how it can lead to a huge amount of fear and anxiety in children, and needless to say, we have no relationship anymore.

Use your common sense, your intellect and stay calm if your kids are driving you spare, don't be instilling fear in your child- it really is quite a horrible thing for any child to experience.

branie2

Could boarding school be an option?

xzanti

Take away their favourite toy/device for a week or two. Or ground them.

I think if you need to resort to violence against a child, then you're doing it wrong.

If an adult hit me, I'd press charges. Why should it be ok for an adult to hit a defenseless child?

Also, if the law banning people from hitting their kids was removed, there are certain people who would view it as a green light for abuse. Nothing surer.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

super_furry wrote: »

Weird to see so many people so eager to hit children.

Meh - it's Ireland...

biko

Why reason with a child when a smack sorts them out faster.

corner of hells

biko wrote: »

Why reason with a child when a smack sorts them out faster.

"Why reason with a child when smack sorts them out faster" , FYP

_Brian

Teaching children that hitting someone is how you get them to do what you want is not the best example to set.

If more parents stopped trying to be best friends with their kids and actually parented them as parents it would lead to better behaved kids.

Lastly, I’m sick of parents giving out about poorly behaved kids when they spend every weekend getting smashed drunk themselves. It’s hard to have the higher moral ground when your slumped in your own vommit beside the toilet every weekend.

I was never hit or smacked or belted or given a hiding or threatened with a wooden spoon etc. Not once.

Only the gods know how I've avoided a life of drug addiction and prison.