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Why are we Irish so reluctant to support other Irish Youtubers?

  • 08-05-2018 8:35pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43


    My mates enjoy all the content from Youtube heavyweights like Casey Neistat and Reviewbrah. They even watch the daily news uploads by Philip DeFranco and are therefore well versed in American current affairs but have no time for Irish discussion channels like ComputingForever run by Dave Cullen. Even then, most of Dave's subscribers are from outside Ireland. I hate to use the word but is it a case of classic Irish begrudgery or is their content just crap?

    Related to this is why are there so few Irish Youtubers in the first place? I have heard the argument before that Ireland is too small and people would be embarrassed to show their face on Youtube or shamed for having notions. "People will recognise me in the street therefore I won't bother. What would the neighbours think".


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,684 ✭✭✭✭Samuel T. Cogley


    I've just not seen any decent content tbh. Well apart from that riding hippos thing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,661 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Never heard of those heavyweights.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43 ameirecan


    kneemos wrote: »
    Never heard of those heavyweights.

    They are regularly on the worldwide trending page with tens of millions of views. But if you don't watch Youtube then it's understandable.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,242 ✭✭✭duffman13


    ameirecan wrote: »
    My mates enjoy all the content from Youtube heavyweights like Casey Neistat and Reviewbrah. They even watch the daily news uploads by Philip DeFranco and are therefore well versed in American current affairs but have no time for Irish discussion channels like ComputingForever run by Dave Cullen. Even then, most of Dave's subscribers are from outside Ireland. I hate to use the word but is it a case of classic Irish begrudgery or is their content just crap?

    Related to this is why are there so few Irish Youtubers in the first place? I have heard the argument before that Ireland is too small and people would be embarrassed to show their face on Youtube or shamed for having notions. "People will recognise me in the street therefore I won't bother. What would the neighbours think".

    Say how ya really feel Dave!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,313 ✭✭✭Ubbquittious


    I dont support any youtubers


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,684 ✭✭✭✭Samuel T. Cogley


    ameirecan wrote: »
    They are regularly on the worldwide trending page with tens of millions of views. But if you don't watch Youtube then it's understandable.

    Calling bull**** there. Yer Computing forever man doesn't seem to be doing very much on computing and his avatar thing has annoyed me from the 2 minutes I watched his videos. He's less than 300K subs and is looking at 71K views on a 2 week old video.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,166 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    Let them get real jobs.


  • Posts: 1,167 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    What age are you that you follow you tubers? Serious question.

    Viper Higgins is the only fella I watch regularly. Cos he's class man.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,661 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    ameirecan wrote: »
    They are regularly on the worldwide trending page with tens of millions of views. But if you don't watch Youtube then it's understandable.


    I do watch Youtube. Regularly browse random channels and have never come across them.

    Had a look at reviewbrah and I can see exactly why people don't support him.
    Casey Neistat got tiresome after twenty seconds as well.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,524 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    ameirecan wrote: »
    My mates enjoy all the content from Youtube heavyweights like Casey Neistat and Reviewbrah. They even watch the daily news uploads by Philip DeFranco and are therefore well versed in American current affairs but have no time for Irish discussion channels like ComputingForever run by Dave Cullen. Even then, most of Dave's subscribers are from outside Ireland. I hate to use the word but is it a case of classic Irish begrudgery or is their content just crap?


    His content is just crap.

    Related to this is why are there so few Irish Youtubers in the first place? I have heard the argument before that Ireland is too small and people would be embarrassed to show their face on Youtube or shamed for having notions. "People will recognise me in the street therefore I won't bother. What would the neighbours think".


    There are plenty of good quality Irish channels and Irish people on YouTube, one of them has over 18 million subscribers -

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacksepticeye


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  • Registered Users, Subscribers, Registered Users 2 Posts: 47,365 ✭✭✭✭Zaph


    ameirecan wrote: »
    My mates enjoy all the content from Youtube heavyweights like Casey Neistat and Reviewbrah. They even watch the daily news uploads by Philip DeFranco and are therefore well versed in American current affairs but have no time for Irish discussion channels like ComputingForever run by Dave Cullen. Even then, most of Dave's subscribers are from outside Ireland. I hate to use the word but is it a case of classic Irish begrudgery or is their content just crap?

    Surely if they're any good, thanks to the miracle of the internet it doesn't really matter where they're from? There's no particular reason why Irish people should watch those guys simply because they're also Irish.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,934 ✭✭✭One More Toy


    Because they are all trying to shill their personal training/make up artist course


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,661 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Obviously millions of subs isn't an indication of quality.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25 hansgruber at gmail.com


    I'd be more inclined to follow people who specialize in an area and have knowledge or talent in that area.

    Had a browse at Computing Forever. Videos on the following:
    Germany's Bleak Future
    How is this a thing? - With a picture of Kanye West
    Our Single Point of Failure.
    WTF is Youtube doing?
    HP Envy Destroy's Macbook Pro.

    This fella seems to think people actually want to watch videos on one man's ramblings on pretty much anything. That's not what I want from a Youtube channel.

    As I said, I prefer channels that focus on a particular topic e.g. weightlifting and covers it in an engaging, entertaining and informative way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,625 ✭✭✭AllForIt


    One is hardly going to watch content just because the producer is Irish - you tube.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,482 ✭✭✭Kidchameleon


    Computing forever is a great channel, jacksepticeye is shyte


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,351 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    Clisare and the Viper from the Hardy Bucks are the only two that I've really ever seen produce decent stuff.

    Oh and the Epic News lads.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,670 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    I found a great irish channel for a game I play. I even shared it in the gaming forum. There are some good Irish you tubers out there.

    However very few make content I'd watch.

    And that Dave Cullen seems like he's incredibly annoying.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43 ameirecan


    Clisare and the Viper from the Hardy Bucks are the only two that I've really ever seen produce decent stuff.

    Can you expand on why you enjoy Clisare's content? I understand that taste's are subjective but she really, really likes to go for the twee paddywhackery ****e with a big Irish flag in the thumbnail and an exaggerated accent. Besides that all I see are makeup tutorials. I hope you're not a lad watching that?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,351 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    ameirecan wrote: »
    Can you expand on why you enjoy Clisare's content? I understand that taste's are subjective but she really, really likes to go for the twee paddywhackery ****e with a big Irish flag in the thumbnail and an exaggerated accent. Besides that all I see are makeup tutorials. I hope you're not a lad watching that?

    Nah.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,670 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    I'd be more inclined to follow people who specialize in an area and have knowledge or talent in that area.

    Had a browse at Computing Forever. Videos on the following:
    Germany's Bleak Future
    How is this a thing? - With a picture of Kanye West
    Our Single Point of Failure.
    WTF is Youtube doing?
    HP Envy Destroy's Macbook Pro.

    This fella seems to think people actually want to watch videos on one man's ramblings on pretty much anything. That's not what I want from a Youtube channel.

    As I said, I prefer channels that focus on a particular topic e.g. weightlifting and covers it in an engaging, entertaining and informative way.

    He had an interview with Justin Barrett there. Just watched a few minutes. He waffled about how evolutionary theory affects the left and they are killing themsekves because they are anti competition.

    The op is either alt right or is Dave Cullen.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 22,648 ✭✭✭✭beauf


    That's because most of it is drivel. Even Neistat has largely lost his way.

    The only Irish one I watch occasionally is Bob Flavin. That's just a car review from an Irish perspective.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,351 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    Grayson wrote: »
    He had an interview with Justin Barrett there.

    Ah jaysus, is that lunatic still about? Last I heard he was failing to get his deposit back for European elections and giving talks to German Nazi meetings.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,292 ✭✭✭0lddog


    ameirecan wrote: »
    My mates enjoy all the content from Youtube heavyweights like Casey Neistat and Reviewbrah. They even watch the daily news uploads by Philip DeFranco .....".

    What on earth are you talking about ?


    ( the only youtube channel that I know of is run by a cat called Jacob )


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43 ameirecan


    Grayson wrote: »
    The op is either alt right or is Dave Cullen.

    OH NO! Not the ALT-RIGHT!!

    It's funny how this alt-right paranoia is beginning to resemble McCarthy's Communist witch hunts. Don't forget to check under the bed tonight before you go to sleep.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,684 ✭✭✭✭Samuel T. Cogley


    ameirecan wrote: »
    OH NO! Not the ALT-RIGHT!!

    It's funny how this alt-right paranoia is beginning to resemble McCarthy's Communist witch hunts. Don't forget to check under the bed tonight before you go to sleep.

    ...And in the youtube vein unsubbed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 208 ✭✭Debtocracy


    Cause they're shiiiite Kathleen!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,670 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    Ah jaysus, is that lunatic still about? Last I heard he was failing to get his deposit back for European elections and giving talks to German Nazi meetings.

    Look up his interview with Jim jeffries from a few weeks ago. It's hilarious.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,670 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    ameirecan wrote: »
    OH NO! Not the ALT-RIGHT!!

    It's funny how this alt-right paranoia is beginning to resemble McCarthy's Communist witch hunts. Don't forget to check under the bed tonight before you go to sleep.

    That's a very rational response. See you on your next rereg


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,375 ✭✭✭✭kunst nugget


    That computing forever chap sounds like an absolute dipstick. Does he really have 1,400 videos of that scutter? I lasted two minutes before I broke my phone screen trying to stop that smug, nasal drone from melting my ears.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,737 ✭✭✭✭Alf Veedersane


    ameirecan wrote: »
    My mates enjoy all the content from Youtube heavyweights like Casey Neistat and Reviewbrah. They even watch the daily news uploads by Philip DeFranco and are therefore well versed in American current affairs but have no time for Irish discussion channels like ComputingForever run by Dave Cullen. Even then, most of Dave's subscribers are from outside Ireland. I hate to use the word but is it a case of classic Irish begrudgery or is their content just crap?

    Related to this is why are there so few Irish Youtubers in the first place? I have heard the argument before that Ireland is too small and people would be embarrassed to show their face on Youtube or shamed for having notions. "People will recognise me in the street therefore I won't bother. What would the neighbours think".

    So what other Irish youtubers are suffering from begrudgery outside of the one 'example' given?

    Also, I would reframe the question so that instead of "why are there so few Irish youtubers?" It's "why are there so many youtubers?".


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 291 ✭✭Pegmatite


    ameirecan wrote: »
    well versed in American current affairs but have no time for Irish discussion channels like ComputingForever run by Dave Cullen. Even then, most of Dave's subscribers are from outside Ireland. I hate to use the word but is it a case of classic Irish begrudgery or is their content just crap?


    His content is crap.
    And who is it aimed at. I've watched a couple of his videos. I imagine he believes he is having a heavy weight political discussion. But all he seems to do is talk about the scary left, beta men and talk to crack pots like Justin Barret who have no political currency.



    What is it supposed to be? He just seems to pander to the sort of people who watch Alex Jones, believe that Pizzagate is a real thing and that they are the only people who really now what is going on.

    Question anything they say or ask them to provide citations and they will claim you are shouting them down. Or that they are just asking questions, whats wrong with asking a question? Do you think people shouldnt be able to answer questions.


    It's not a political discussion and has very little relevance to anyone in Ireland or anyone in the real world.


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 78,456 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    I'm claiming two exemptions to the question posed in the thread title:
    1. I don't "support" any YouTubers, Irish or otherwise; and
    2. I'm not Irish


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,492 ✭✭✭pleas advice


    I only use Youtube to listen to mid 90's / early 2000's dance music, am I doing it wrong?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,351 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    Yeah, apparently you should be listening to mid 90's / early 2000's Youth Defence rejects ****ting on about how Hitler was right.


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  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I have no idea who any of ye are on about.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 398 ✭✭Herpes Free Since03


    Lia_lia wrote: »
    I have no idea who any of ye are on about.

    I think most people wouldn't.... YouTube is a platform for music and tutorial vids for most people.... if people like to follow certain YouTubers, then great, but it's not for me


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,736 ✭✭✭Irish Guitarist


    I've watched a couple of Computing Forever videos but it's hard to take him seriously. Does he really care that much about American politics and political correctness to make 10 or 15 minute long videos every week? Why doesn't he have more of an opinion on Irish news? Apart from that he goes off on wild tangents. He takes an example of political correctness from the news and then goes off on a rant about what will happen next and how this will all lead to the world being taken over by communism or something. He'll start off talking about unisex toilets and by the end of the video he's telling you we're living in Nazi Germany or communist Russia. I like the occasional angry rant. Some of them can be so over the top they're funny but he's no Paul Joseph Watson.

    And if you mean financial support on Patreon or something there's absolutely no way I'd give anyone on YouTube money.

    There are computer or tech channels like 8 Bit Guy or Lazy Game Reviews which are entertaining, but the amount of money and presents they get is unreal. They have unboxing videos where they open parcels viewers have sent in. People send them stuff like old computers that they could probably get a three figure sum for if they put them on eBay. And they have Patreon accounts too so they make more money from them. I seriously don't get this thing of giving stuff to people on the internet. And the two channels I mentioned are ones I somewhat like. The idea of giving money to someone for rambling about Trump for 15 minutes is ludicrous. I might as well ask someone on After Hours if they want me to send them money through Paypal.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    Isn't the only Irish youtuber that could be considered a "heavyweight" that Jack Septic Eye gamer fella? I'm not a fan myself but he's estimated to be earning well north of a million a year off it for a few years now and I think I saw he is in the 20-30 most popular channels with north of 9 billion views on youtube so fair play to him all the same.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,275 ✭✭✭Your Face


    I think the OPs preposition is polarizing.
    I subscribe to very little on YT.
    I wouldn't subscribe to a channel just because its Irish. Just because I don't subscribe to a channel doesn't mean its crap, it means its not good enough for me personally.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 778 ✭✭✭BabyCheeses


    Jackscepticeye is the only big Irish youtuber I can think of. Fair play to him for doing well but it's not my thing. Have heard about computingforever but that's only because he was spamming reddit awhile back. He was acting very weird so that put me off him completely if the conspiracy theories didn't already. There was something wrong with that boy.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,872 Mod ✭✭✭✭riffmongous


    The Epic News Guys were pretty good but just too slow with new content. I still watch their tallafornia vids every few months, and the traveller call out ones


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,950 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    The only youtube channel I watch is Foil Arms and Hog and look forward to new videos ever Thursday. Funny lads

    Other than that I just watch random ****e. Spent 2 hours watching videos of Lava burning things last night.


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    I subscribe to Real Engineering, its one of my favorite channels. Its tremendous.

    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCR1IuLEqb6UEA_zQ81kwXfg


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,492 ✭✭✭pleas advice


    ChikiChiki wrote: »
    The only youtube channel I watch is Foil Arms and Hog and look forward to new videos ever Thursday. Funny lads

    Other than that I just watch random ****e. Spent 2 hours watching videos of Lava burning things last night.
    seen some of that. 'lava destroys a coke can!!!'...
    very anti-climatic,


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    It's all about the hydraulic press, lads.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Aceandstuff


    Billy86 wrote: »
    It's all about the hydraulic press, lads.

    Red Hot Nickel Ball.
    I love me some Red Hot Nickel Ball.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,315 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    ameirecan wrote: »
    They even watch the daily news uploads by Philip DeFranco and are therefore well versed in American current affairs but have no time for Irish discussion channels like ComputingForever run by Dave Cullen. Even then, most of Dave's subscribers are from outside Ireland.
    So, youtubers who comment on American policy are not watched by people in Ireland?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,432 ✭✭✭big b


    ask Bono


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 24,609 ✭✭✭✭arybvtcw0eolkf


    ameirecan wrote: »
    My mates enjoy all the content from Youtube heavyweights like Casey Neistat and Reviewbrah.

    The only Irish heavyweight I'd recommend is my own +100kg Judo competitions and training :D

    All joking aside it really depends on what takes your fancy, none of the stuff you've posted means a jot to me.

    I'd follow mostly fitness & nutrition, highly recommended is recently site banned boards member James Hanley. He was brilliant in the Health and Fitness forum, but got a site ban so now I follow him on Youtube.

    Other than fitness and martial arts most other stuff is covered better by other people in other countries.

    Almost forgot. I'm a biker so I follow some biking channels but I've only found one Irish one. The guy is a member of boards.ie (so he's Irish) but the content isn't great, but I follow him because he's both Irish and a biker.

    I've looked at a few other members channels, but they're mostly gaming stuff. Way too geeky & 'hiding away from life in mothers basement stuff for me.


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