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DaBluBoi

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123115198#Comment_123115198

I think bro may have forgotten a noun or two there

cgcsb

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123058213#Comment_123058213

The railway order for DART+ North is due to be decided on Monday (a bank holiday). So given that nothing has happened to day and no communication on the matter, it's safe to say that the 6 month duration is pure fiction/comedy. 2 years is the minimum time for a railway order (or bus based transport project), some recently have taken 4 years (closing a few level crossings). Metrolink is coming up on 2.5 years, a total sh1tshow. We just have to accept 2 years is the basic minimum for such a project and a year or 2 for judicial reviews which can be taken indiscriminately for any reason, real or imaginary.

spacetweek

2 years is for existing apps that were in the system while it was being reformed and they were trying to clear the backlog.
Hopefully new apps going in recently won’t take 2 years. As for Metrolink it’s the biggest most expensive infrastructure project in this country’s history so no way I can see to get it decided quickly, it is hugely complex.

PlatformNine

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123120094#Comment_123120094

I think saying that it will be a minimum of 2 years because it hasn't been approved on the exact day given is a bit overly pessimistic. But I can't say I expect them to make a decision next week. Again like I said, D+N should be the first significant RO grantet that has been more recently submitted, and will give us an idea of how long future ROs might take. Even if it isn't decided Tuesday, even if it isn't approved for another 6 months, it will still be an improvement and a good sign for future projects to come. Unfortunately we just wont know how long it will take until it is approved.

goingnowhere

DART+ North is relatively simple, there are few if any issues compared to Maynooth, 12-15 months best guess

The question is public hearing or not, only Maynooth and Metro went to hearings that adds a year at least on top of that

Middleton and DART south west got rubber stamped, work is already underway in Cork

cgcsb

"Complexity" is a real catch all for Irish officialdom. It's complexity that has stopped DCC implementing further changes from it's own city centre traffic management plan, and complexity is what caused a railway order for closing a few level crossings to take 4 years. I think there's just no competitent decision making ability.