City just crazy

pmason

This city has gone completely mad with traffic. Its really gone well past a joke and the council seem to be doing nothing. 1hr 10min to get home yesterday evening which should have been only 40mins and an hour to get to work this morning. Long queues out to Briar Hill every evening. Everyone trying to get out of the city and cant. I just wonder what are those engineers doing in them council offices everyday. One simple thing that could improve briar hill alone would be to extend the slip roads going to Carnmore and Doughiska and create another job for that cops that sits there in the sun waiting to catch people trying to get home to collect kids etc....

WAKE UP GALWAY TD'S & ENGINEERS AND TAKE YOUR HEADS OUT OF THE SAND!

youngrun

pmason wrote: »

This city has gone completely mad with traffic. Its really gone well past a joke and the council seem to be doing nothing. 1hr 10min to get home yesterday evening which should have been only 40mins and an hour to get to work this morning. Long queues out to Briar Hill every evening. Everyone trying to get out of the city and cant. I just wonder what are those engineers doing in them council offices everyday. One simple thing that could improve briar hill alone would be to extend the slip roads going to Carnmore and Doughiska and create another job for that cops that sits there in the sun waiting to catch people trying to get home to collect kids etc....

WAKE UP GALWAY TD'S & ENGINEERS AND TAKE YOUR HEADS OUT OF THE SAND!

The city is full to the gills with cars
Too many people driving everywhere , too many cars in small space
Short term need Buses and park and rides and people to get on a bike or walk for short journeys
Council and employers need to work together to incentivise or cajole people to use these services
Long term roads are years away

ben.schlomo

Oh look a traffic thread, hurray. Surely these should just be merged at this stage.

TheBoyConor

Sure look what happened in cork.

As soon as the City Council make any move to cajole people out of their cars there is uproar because people can't drive their cars right in through the front door of the shops and businesses also complaining that customers might have to park a 5 minute walk away and not be able to drive up to the till.

We want no traffic but we still want to drive our cars EVERYWHERE.
Typical irish attitude.

fergiesfolly

TheBoyConor wrote: »

Sure look what happened in cork.

As soon as the City Council make any move to cajole people out of their cars there is uproar because people can't drive their cars right in through the front door of the shops and businesses also complaining that customers might have to park a 5 minute walk away and not be able to drive up to the till.

We want no traffic but we still want to drive our cars EVERYWHERE.
Typical irish attitude.

I think the uproar came from city council members....who may have had a vested interest in city centre businesses.

I don't normally venture into the city centre, but needed to go in Monday. The traffic at peak time was horrendous and I couldn't for the life of me do it everyday. To spend all that time after your working day stuck in clogged up roads must be mind numbingly boring and soul destroying.

Everyone involved in planning our city and all those coming into the city needs to play their part to end this.

Doctors room ghost

Galway is fukd with traffic.they have about 400 sets of lights bet into the city with some backed up onto the last set.theres about 10 sets between doughiska and bohermore.theres some fukr on a backhander selling lights and keeping the boys in jobs.half them aren’t even synchronized properly. If a car comes in the coast road from Oran they stop the full flow on Dublin road.what the fcuk is that about.they could have just merged that lane for all that use it.
There wasn’t half the problem when they had roundabouts in Galway and half the fukrs on the road could drive properly.
Use indicators ye animals

TheBoyConor

Roundabouts are fine but you get elderly people complaining to councillors that they want pedestrian lights and then that rolls down through to roads department and they come under pressure to change roundabouts for lights.

WallyGUFC

Plenty of Galway drivers haven't a notion how to use roundabouts either.

Triangle

Just a thought, but maybe proper transport is needed.....perhaps something similar to the gluas proposal. Something that runs on time. - and not a train service that is slower than cycling

Maybe even building public transport into the city plan. I wonder have they done this with the new place in ardaun or are they just expecting a bus route?

Mrs OBumble

I caught the bus.

Yesterday i got to work in Parkmore in 45 minutes (including the 10 minute walk from the bus stop to the office and 5 mins from home to bus stop).

Getting home took longer ... about 70 mins all up including the 15 mins walking and 10 mins waiting for the bus.

But becaude i wasn't driving, read the paper and cleared emails while travelling.

Fwiw.

fergiesfolly

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

I caught the bus.

Yesterday i got to work in Parkmore in 45 minutes (including the 10 minute walk from the bus stop to the office and 5 mins from home to bus stop).

Getting home took longer ... about 70 mins all up including the 15 mins walking and 10 mins waiting for the bus.

But becaude i wasn't driving, read the paper and cleared emails while travelling.

Fwiw.

Where( roughly) you're traveling from might give some context to the times given.
Is it much faster /slower than by car/ bicycle?

flazio

Authorising car pooling vehicles to use the bus lanes would be great.

punisher5112

Get a moped,scooter or motorbike...

Remember back in early 2000 there were so many on bikes.

I've been back living and working in Galway for over 3 years now. Work on one side of the city. Live on the other side. I dont find traffic all that bad.
I come into work early to beat the traffic, and leave during peak times. Rarely ever takes more than 45 minutes home. Lots of times I can do it in 30 minutes.

I've previously relied on public transport in Dublin to get in and out of work. Much happier sitting in traffic, than standing at a bus stop, waiting for a full bus to arrive, so that I can stand for the duration of my journey

Doctors room ghost

punisher5112 wrote: »

Get a moped,scooter or motorbike...

Remember back in early 2000 there were so many on bikes.

The clowns calling the shots will make you jump through hoops now to get a license for a bike or moped.costs up to a grand for compulsory course and lessons before you can do the test and then pay a fortune for insurance.then buy gear and a bike and sit out in all weather on it.

Doctors room ghost

WallyGUFC wrote: »

Plenty of Galway drivers haven't a notion how to use roundabouts either.

You should try a roundabout in mayo.left lane is first exit only and everything else doing kamikaze runs in the right hand lane.they are even arrowed that way.no second exit off left lane in mayo.

Coillte_Bhoy

Doctors room ghost wrote: »

You should try a roundabout in mayo.left lane is first exit only and everything else doing kamikaze runs in the right hand lane.they are even arrowed that way.no second exit off left lane in mayo.

Rubbish :rolleyes:

Doctors room ghost

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

Rubbish :rolleyes:

Not at all.check out the roundabouts in cbar.the one below McHale Park at the garage is definitely arrowed that way as are more of them.

Coillte_Bhoy

Doctors room ghost wrote: »

Not at all.check out the roundabouts in cbar.the one below McHale Park at the garage is definitely arrowed that way as are more of them.

I go through that roundabout every morning, you are very much mistaken

Doctors room ghost

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

I go through that roundabout every morning, you are very much mistaken

Come down from the ring road at back of McHale Park into that roundabout where left for Headford straight for Westport at garage.its marked left in left lane and right straight on in right lane.it definitely was last time I was through it.more of them are the same

Coillte_Bhoy

Doctors room ghost wrote: »

Come down from the ring road at back of McHale Park into that roundabout where left for Headford straight for Westport at garage.its marked left in left lane and right straight on in right lane.it definitely was last time I was through it.more of them are the same

Oh thats not the one i mean. Though im nearly sure you are wrong, ill check it out this week. maybe the arrows are wrong but there is definetley a 2nd left exit

WallyGUFC

Roundabout at Cemetery Cross is especially bad if travelling out the Tuam Road. People (particularly taxi drivers) in the right-hand lane and travelling straight on is a regular occurrence. I've seen many close calls there and have had 1 or 2 myself. Then you have the people sitting in yellow boxes...

Seems loads of people still go first 2 exits left lane, last 2 exits right lane and get flustered with more than 4 exits.

Doctors room ghost

WallyGUFC wrote: »

Roundabout at Cemetery Cross is especially bad if travelling out the Tuam Road. People (particularly taxi drivers) in the right-hand lane and travelling straight on is a regular occurrence. I've seen many close calls there and have had 1 or 2 myself. Then you have the people sitting in yellow boxes...

Seems loads of people still go first 2 exits left lane, last 2 exits right lane and get flustered with more than 4 exits.

One at Oran jacks house at end of dual carriage in Oran is the same.people are always in right hand lane and go straight across and cut over then for limerick exit going toward cbridge

Zzippy

Doctors room ghost wrote: »

Come down from the ring road at back of McHale Park into that roundabout where left for Headford straight for Westport at garage.its marked left in left lane and right straight on in right lane.it definitely was last time I was through it.more of them are the same

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

Oh thats not the one i mean. Though im nearly sure you are wrong, ill check it out this week. maybe the arrows are wrong but there is definetley a 2nd left exit

Google maps says you're both right. Or both wrong. Or something...

https://www.google.ie/maps/@53.85198...2!8i6656?hl=en

https://www.google.ie/maps/@53.85190...2!8i6656?hl=en


Obviously different images taken on different occasions. No idea which is more recent.

Doctors room ghost

Zzippy wrote: »

Google maps says you're both right. Or both wrong. Or something...

https://www.google.ie/maps/@53.85198...2!8i6656?hl=en

https://www.google.ie/maps/@53.85190...2!8i6656?hl=en


Obviously different images taken on different occasions. No idea which is more recent.

I’ll agree to disagree zippy.it was definitely arrowed wrong when I went through it.it might have just been a mistake and changed

fergiesfolly

Jesus lads, we have enough issues with Galway traffic without dragging roundabouts in Mayo into it.

punisher5112

Roundabout way to bring thread totally off the roundabout........

Too many in cars it's that simple.

Next time you see a bicycle or motorbike pass think they are one less car blocking all the rest of you in.

On the topic of lessons etc for bikes that's a good thing and nothing stopping one doing so on their own bike.

Oops69

I really wish Galway would sort out it's traffic problem .... just so I Don't have to hear about 'bother na drav' or whatever every 5mins on any feckin radio station.

jjpep

Cycle. Way easier than coping with unpredictable journey times. If you have to spend time commuting anyway you might as well get some benefit out of it.

Doctors room ghost

punisher5112 wrote: »

Roundabout way to bring thread totally off the roundabout........

Too many in cars it's that simple.

Next time you see a bicycle or motorbike pass think they are one less car blocking all the rest of you in.

On the topic of lessons etc for bikes that's a good thing and nothing stopping one doing so on their own bike.

I’m all for education and road safety but the new lessons brought in for bikes is a joke and far too expensive. The cc to kw conversion is a joke aswell created to spin money.id have no issue with the lessons and course if it was reasonably priced

Nettle Soup

An outer ring road and new bridge will solve a lot of the problem.

Mrs OBumble

fergiesfolly wrote: »

Where( roughly) you're traveling from might give some context to the times given.
Is it much faster /slower than by car/ bicycle?

Live in the centre. Work in Parkmore.

I wouldn't be able for cycling, and neither do I have anywhere to store a bicycle.

A car might be quicker - but I'd be paying thru the nose for parking and insurance. So not an option.

Parkmore to Eyre Square is about 7km give or take.

Soul destroying going at that speed for an hour or more.

Nettle Soup

Nettle Soup wrote: »

An outer ring road and new bridge will solve a lot of the problem.

It would. However that's 10 years away. Imagine the city by the time it comes around.

The council should act quick and get more people onto buses. Also expand the routes to commuter towns.

There's plenty of things they could do to get more people out of cars short term.

RoboKlopp

RoboKlopp wrote: »

It would. However that's 10 years away. Imagine the city by the time it comes around.

The council should act quick and get more people onto buses. Also expand the routes to commuter towns.

There's plenty of things they could do to get more people out of cars short term.

Bus Eireann have stated that they could increase frequency quite quickly and work with the NTA to provide more routes but won't even look at it until there are more bus lanes as the service would be poor otherwise

Which, to be honest, is a perfectly reasonable stance to take

flazio

I think decreasing the number of single person car occupancy might go some way to alleviate this as well. Next commute you take, just note how many cars around you have more than one person in them.
Car pooling incentives, like use of the bus lanes I mentioned earlier would go some way to reducing commuting times.

StonedRaider

It's so easy to come on and whinge about Galway's traffic issues. Why don't you do something to contribute to help solve the problem?
I did 16years ago. I can count on 1 hand the number of times I actually got stuck in Galway city traffic.
My commute is 14kms round trip. It takes me 20minutes door to door each way.
A couple of colleagues have done the same. Parked their cars in free spots apprx 3-4km outside the city,and cycled in to work. Where there's a will, there's a way.

Mrs OBumble

flazio wrote: »

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Car pooling incentives, like use of the bus lanes I mentioned earlier would go some way to reducing commuting times.

A bus is really like a big car pool - with the schedule, petrol cost and insurance issues worked out.

Letting ultra small buses (ie car pooling cars) use bus lanes reduced their effectiveness.

fergiesfolly

Signage over the road, rather than signage painted onto the road is what's needed.
Clear, visable and with enough distance from the roundabout, so drivers can adjust if needed.

Whereisgalway

Whereisgalway wrote: »

If our greedy councillors allowed a proper shopping centre to be built on the outskirts of the city it would reduce a lot a traffic but since they own shopsn pubs and only have eyes for there only wallets they won’t let it happen

Personally, I think this is a terrible idea. I lived in Drogheda a few years back, and they have two large shopping areas on the outskirts of the town. The city center has died because of it with loads of boarded up stores and derelict shop fronts.
You need a thriving city center to make a city

Tilikum17

WallyGUFC wrote: »

Roundabout at Cemetery Cross is especially bad if travelling out the Tuam Road. People (particularly taxi drivers) in the right-hand lane and travelling straight on is a regular occurrence. I've seen many close calls there and have had 1 or 2 myself. Then you have the people sitting in yellow boxes...

Seems loads of people still go first 2 exits left lane, last 2 exits right lane and get flustered with more than 4 exits.

I find the one at the tirellan is the worst in the city. Every morning I’m in the right had lane taking the 3rd exit and every single day without fail, there’s car after in the left hand lane taking the same exit.

beardybrewer

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

A bus is really like a big car pool - with the schedule, petrol cost and insurance issues worked out.

I think you're confusing what you think people should do with what people will do. A car you already have/need that you can hop into anytime instead of waiting for an unreliable bus that takes too long will be on the road despite the traffic because it's still better than the alternative. Allowing carpooling during rush hours is common practice in other countries and something people might do to make a difference.

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

Letting ultra small buses (ie car pooling cars) use bus lanes reduced their effectiveness.

Can you back that up?

gordongekko

Talking about busses. Yesterday I was on the doughiska Road shortly after 4. 2 busses one after another passed me heading towards parkmore. A minute later 2 busses one after each other passed going towards town. 4 of the 5 busses on the route were all within 200 meters of each other.

xckjoo

beardybrewer wrote: »

I think you're confusing what you think people should do with what people will do. A car you already have/need that you can hop into anytime instead of waiting for an unreliable bus that takes too long will be on the road despite the traffic because it's still better than the alternative. Allowing carpooling during rush hours is common practice in other countries and something people might do to make a difference.

You might have a point if there was more bus lanes but there's almost none so lets not clog up the few we have.

Can you back that up?

Ya. Look at the parts of the road that aren't bus lanes.

addressing unreliability with buses by clogging up the bus lanes..... that's just plain idiotic

Countries that give preference to car poolers have multi lane highways with dedicated car pool lanes, at least the ones I'm aware of

Do you understand that the buses are unreliable because there are not enough bus lanes and bus priority measures?

You don't convince people to adopt an alternative by making it worse, you convince them by making it the smarter option

flazio

Why does it have to be one or the other? Why not both? The reason I'm pumping up carpooling is because, all we need is already here. We can't fill empty bus seats as there are no empty buses just yet, they need to be bought in and the infrastructure set up etc. We can however fill the empty car seats because they are already on the road right now. I'm suggesting carpooling be a quick fix until the bus infrastructure improves, not as something to replace the need for more buses.

flazio

flazio wrote: »

Why does it have to be one or the other? Why not both? The reason I'm pumping up carpooling is because, all we need is already here. We can't fill empty bus seats as there are no empty buses just yet, they need to be bought in and the infrastructure set up etc. We can however fill the empty car seats because they are already on the road right now. I'm suggesting carpooling be a quick fix until the bus infrastructure improves, not as something to replace the need for more buses.

So in the meantime, instead of improving the bus service, you want to make it worse???

Also, once you open that gate, it's very difficult to close it again. No, the bus lanes are literally the deciding factor that motivates some folk to change to use the bus.

Again, you don't get people to opt for something by deliberately degrading the service.

nuac

Nettle Soup wrote: »

An outer ring road and new bridge will solve a lot of the problem.

Yes but when, if ever?

Will the bog cotton and limestone pavement still be a problem?

Fitz*

I wonder what, if any, plans have been designed by City Council & Bus Eireann for 2 weekends time with 35,000 people arriving for both gigs on the Saturday & Sunday.

Traffic will certainly be mayhem those 2 days. It's already a bad traffic route as it is, let alone with the very large extra flow of people.

Surely BE will put on extra buses to help with the flow of people and take cars off the road.

Mrs OBumble

FitzShane wrote: »

I wonder what, if any, plans have been designed by City Council & Bus Eireann for 2 weekends time with 35,000 people arriving for both gigs on the Saturday & Sunday.

Traffic will certainly be mayhem those 2 days. It's already a bad traffic route as it is, let alone with the very large extra flow of people.

Surely BE will put on extra buses to help with the flow of people and take cars off the road.

Event organisers will have had to specify traffic management plans to get the license.

what_traffic

FitzShane wrote: »

I wonder what, if any, plans have been designed by City Council & Bus Eireann for 2 weekends time with 35,000 people arriving for both gigs on the Saturday & Sunday.

Traffic will certainly be mayhem those 2 days. It's already a bad traffic route as it is, let alone with the very large extra flow of people.

Surely BE will put on extra buses to help with the flow of people and take cars off the road.

Will it jsut be like Connacht Final Day in Pearse Stadium?