How long before Marijuana will be legalised?

OU812

Obviously, a referendum isn't necessary, but with the likely outcome of this referendum repealing the 8th amendment & making Abortion legal in Ireland & considering we've legalised same-sex marriage, is there any harm in legalising weed?

When you consider the medical & social benefits, reducing crime statistics & increasing tax take, wouldn't the sensible option be to legalise it & take advantage of the benefits?

According to the Washington Post, in states where it's been legalised, teen usage hasn't increased, violent crimes have reduced & tax take has increased.

Atlantic Dawn

Far too much influence from big pharma for it ever to be legalized in this country.

Rikand

42.0 years

Muahahaha

About 18-24 months after the UK legalises it

thebull85

I reckon be another 20 years minimum before its legalised in the UK, so 25-30 years here.

henryforde80

When Snoop Dogg runs for Taoiseach.

Arghus

20 years.

And depending on how stoned you are that could feel like like anything from 25 to 50 years.

pleas advice

Rikand wrote: »

42.0 years

on the 4th of octendecimber

NIMAN

You should have grown out of the urge by the time its legalised.

Don't be an old stoner, its not a good look.

Pac1Man

Don't know but I'm fast running out of pain pills here and wouldn't mind sampling some brownies with black coffee on a Saturday morning.

fleet

Muahahaha wrote: »

About 18-24 months after the UK legalises it

This, and virtually unmodified except for any bits thst look complicated. Like virtually all our law, still apeing the mainland.

posturingpat

Pac1Man wrote: »

Don't know but I'm fast running out of pain pills here and wouldn't mind sampling some brownies with black coffee on a Saturday morning.

Hemp oil can now be bought in lots of Pharmacies contrary to popular belief. Check out a few and have a chat with them.

Ahhhh for forks sake!

The Vintners will never allow it to be legalised for recreational use.

facehugger99

We effectively had legalised drug use when those smart shops were going - only took a couple of outraged old biddys phoning Joe Duffy to have them all closed at the stroke of a pen.

I reckon another 20-30 years.

SEPT 23 1989

facehugger99 wrote: »

We effectively had legalised drug use when those smart shops were going - only took a couple of outraged old biddys phoning Joe Duffy to have them all closed at the stroke of a pen.

I reckon another 20-30 years.

I think it had more to do with people jumping out of windows and trying to cut their eyes out while out of their heads

Terrible things those aul drugs

Pint when your ready there please

6541

Very soon, governments are realizing that it is possible to raise loads of tax on it.

circadian

I reckon in the next 10 years but I guarantee the government will make a balls of it and award the first licences to huge pharmaceutical companies instead of trying to encourage small indigenous start ups.

jh79

Vote for the Greens at the next election, they want an Amsterdam type set up and have made it part of their election manifesto.

Richard Hillman

jh79 wrote: »

Vote for the Greens at the next election, they want an Amsterdam type set up and have made it part of their election manifesto.

They also want open door immigration, so no.

Sleeper12

We were talking about this subject 30 years ago. It seemed like a pipe dream (pardon the pun) at the time.

It's looking like it will be available medically in the next few years. I still think that we are years maybe decades away from be legal to have it to be get stoned

wexie

jh79 wrote: »

Vote for the Greens at the next election, they want an Amsterdam type set up and have made it part of their election manifesto.

Richard Hillman wrote: »

They also want open door immigration, so no.

Be a half decent movieplot in stoned terrorists...

Kinda like 4 Lions meets Cheech and Chong

Kimbot

Anyone see Netflix US twitter post on 4/20?

Read something like this "We have disabled the Are you still watching feature, we know your too high to respond today" haha

Mossy Monk

With all the tax money that will be earned I'd say it will be legalised within 10 years.

Wanderer78

Legalise the lot, moving on....

Ahhhh for forks sake!

Why is the stuff even illegal? I was having a conversation in work the other day and non one could see the logic.

All of the responses were along the lines of “sure cannabis makes you high, getting high is bad”, when I asked them why it’s bad, they just keep going around in a circular argument.

I asked them if they drink, most replied “yes”.

Hypocrisy.

JohnnyFlash

My sister works as a psychiatrist nurse. Says the weed lads are smoking these days is very dangerous. Nothing like the stuff of old. Extremely strong and cheap. There’s a huge rise in the amount of them presenting to mental health services with severe psychosis and paranoid delusions.

CruelCoin

We've gone from forced labour camps for single mothers to gay marriage and soon abortion, in what? 30 years?

At that rate, this will up for debate and voting sometime in the early 2020s.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Never mind marijuana - when will LSD become legal?!

Kimbot

Ahhhh for forks sake! wrote: »

Why is the stuff even illegal? I was having a conversation in work the other day and non one could see the logic.

All of the responses were along the lines of “sure cannabis makes you high, getting high is bad”, when I asked them why it’s bad, they just keep going around in a circular argument.

I asked them if they drink, most replied “yes”.

Hypocrisy.

I believe it was first made illegal when there was talk of hemp replacing cotton as the main item used to make clothing. All those cotton plantations would have been left to rot if hemp got in so it was made illegal. Or so some stories go

Franz Von Peppercorn

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

Never mind marijuana - when will LSD become legal?!

Nevah

Kimbot

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

Nevah

What you on about Willis...... Its legal to take in After Hours or didnt you hear? :pac:

TheSegal

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

My sister works as a psychiatrist nurse. Says the weed lads are smoking these days is very dangerous. Nothing like the stuff of old. Extremely strong and cheap. There’s a huge rise in the amount of them presenting to mental health services with severe psychosis and paranoid delusions.

I'd love to know where this strong and cheap weed is. 90% of the stuff I have gotten here since moving home is utter crap compared to the medicinal cannabis in Vancouver I was given for my epilepsy.

TheSegal

TheSegal wrote: »

I'd love to know where this strong and cheap weed is. 90% of the stuff I have gotten here since moving home is utter crap compared to the medicinal cannabis in Vancouver I was given for my epilepsy.

I believe self sufficiency is the way to go if you want to ensure the quality of what you're getting - takes the criminal element out of it and what you're consuming then is organic, good quality etc etc and you actually have control over the strength and strains of what you're consuming. - takes a bit of work to get up and running, but well worth the effort once it comes to harvest time.

Sleepy

If put to a plebisite, it'd be legal in the morning.

suicide_circus

Without it I could go even blinder

Mackmatic

**** that, dont touch the stuff lads.

What will your mother/girlfriend do when she finds you dead in the morning with a pinner in your mouth. Last thing this country needs is a bunch of savages running around eating each other suffering from reefer madness.

North inner city hoodlum

Don't source off criminal gangs for cannabis (weed) they add anything to hand to increase weight to maximise profit.

Alot of "professionals" would be out of jobs too.

It's the lobbying by the drinks industry here in Ireland why it isn't legal, alot of politicians are pub owners or investors in pub chains

There's alot of scare mongering in relation to cannabis, it kills your brain cells, they die anyway, you'll be junkified by smoking or using the wacky tobacie, feck off back to yer high stool and fight with yourself in the mirror.

GYO (Grow your own)

pickarooney

Sleepy wrote: »

If put to a plebisite, it'd be legal in the morning.

Just as soon as everyone gets up off the couch to go vote.

Woke Hogan

I'd imagine it'll be legalised in Ireland within the next fifteen years. Hopefully a few other states in Europe will legalise first so that Ireland doesn't become a magnet for cannabis tourists, it's bad enough so many people come here for the "pub culture."

Doltanian

If the save the 8th referendum is passed then the SJW agitator types will probably shift their focus over to this, quiet alot of them would be casual drug users anyway so it would suit their own agenda.

Mackmatic

Doltanian wrote: »

If the save the 8th referendum is passed then the SJW agitator types will probably shift their focus over to this, quiet alot of them would be casual drug users anyway so it would suit their own agenda.

Thats a pretty wild generalization to make. People for abortion are casual drug users? Hahaha.

And using SJW unironically, going for the bingo you are.

thebull85

North inner city hoodlum wrote: »

Don't source off criminal gangs for cannabis (weed) they add anything to hand to increase weight to maximise profit.

Alot of "professionals" would be out of jobs too.

It's the lobbying by the drinks industry here in Ireland why it isn't legal, alot of politicians are pub owners or investors in pub chains

There's alot of scare mongering in relation to cannabis, it kills your brain cells, they die anyway, you'll be junkified by smoking or using the wacky tobacie, feck off back to yer high stool and fight with yourself in the mirror.

GYO (Grow your own)

Had a bash of growing my own a few times, and while it was smokeable, i couldnt get it completely right, the haze you buy on the street much nicer and stronger.


And f**k me, the ESB bill.

super_furry

I don't like it personally and it doesn't really suit me but I struggle to think of any argument that's strong enough to keep it illegal.

North inner city hoodlum

thebull85 wrote: »

Had a bash of growing my own a few times, and while it was smokeable, i couldnt get it completely right, the haze you buy on the street much nicer and stronger.


And f**k me, the ESB bill.

Where you using HPS lights?what strain where you try to grow?

LED are getting there now, and don't give up the first few times are a learning curve and pick a easy strain (Northern lights).

Roughly what was your ESB bill per grow?

What's the street price of an ounce now 500/600?

Would you pay a bit more for a regulated and approved cannabis supply from a licensed seller?

I certainly would, I use to like the strong strains now I go for the lighter stuff, I'm fecking old now

Adults should be given the option of a clean safe regulated supply and pay tax to sustain a clean regulated supply.

Mackerel and Avocado Sandwich

How could it ever be legalised? Doctors etc will say it leads to schizophrenia etc. Ireland is quite conservative, especially outside of cities. Not many TDs will support the vote because it will make them look bad to their pious constituents and not enough people smoke it really to care enough.
I like a smoke sometimes but sure it's easy to get nowadays and easy to grow so who cares if it's legal or not?

Guy:Incognito

Atlantic Dawn wrote: »

Far too much influence from big pharma for it ever to be legalized in this country.

Is that not the same line rolled out in America for various things?

Then suddenly the people saying "big pharma won't allow it" go very quiet when stuff goes ahead.

thebull85

North inner city hoodlum wrote: »

Where you using HPS lights?what strain where you try to grow?

LED are getting there now, and don't give up the first few times are a learning curve and pick a easy strain (Northern lights).

Roughly what was your ESB bill per grow?

What's the street price of an ounce now 500/600?

Would you pay a bit more for a regulated and approved cannabis supply from a licensed seller?

I certainly would, I use to like the strong strains now I go for the lighter stuff, I'm fecking old now

Adults should be given the option of a clean safe regulated supply and pay tax to sustain a clean regulated supply.

My esb bill is normally 80-90 per month, it was double that each month at least. Yeah i was using a 400w hps light, along with a ballast and and fan going 24 hours a day.

Tried growing church, hindu kush and top dogg, probably werent the right strains to be growing indoors, i had a constant problem with keeping the temperature down which is probably why the weed wasnt great. Still got 4-5 ounces of dry weed.

Youd get an oz for 400 cash on the street.

As regards paying for it, i would pay more if it was available legally but at the same time i wouldnt want to be ripped off. I think Amsterdam prices are perfectly acceptable.

you get 2 grams in a 25 bag here now.

North inner city hoodlum

thebull85 wrote: »

My esb bill is normally 80-90 per month, it was double that each month at least. Yeah i was using a 400w hps light, along with a ballast and and fan going 24 hours a day.

Tried growing church, hindu kush and top dogg, probably werent the right strains to be growing indoors, i had a constant problem with keeping the temperature down which is probably why the weed wasnt great. Still got 4-5 ounces of dry weed.

Youd get an oz for 400 cash on the street.

As regards paying for it, i would pay more if it was available legally but at the same time i wouldnt want to be ripped off. I think Amsterdam prices are perfectly acceptable.

you get 2 grams in a 25 bag here now.

Give it another go with LEDs and get a pH tester if you already haven't got one.

I agree mostly with the Dutch model, you pay a high price for cannabis cup winners per gram 40 to 50 euro , if you want something light 10euro per gram roughly.

There's alot of money being made by criminals from cannabis in Ireland, it shouldn't be left in the hands of criminals.

Ray Palmer

Ahhhh for forks sake! wrote: »

Why is the stuff even illegal? I was having a conversation in work the other day and non one could see the logic.

All of the responses were along the lines of “sure cannabis makes you high, getting high is bad”, when I asked them why it’s bad, they just keep going around in a circular argument.

I asked them if they drink, most replied “yes”.

Hypocrisy.

It illegal because people complained about their servants and farmhands were getting stoned. That is actually the real reason. Historically the opium wars made the world scared of drugs and they lumped them all together to insure other countries didn't try it on them.

Ken.

Anyone up for a poll. Simple question. If asked to vote would you vote to legalize Marijuana with just the 2 options Yes or No. Also I think we set a time limit of a month and keep the results hidden till the end so no one will jump on a side just because its ahead.

Franz Von Peppercorn

Mackerel and Avocado Sandwich wrote: »

How could it ever be legalised? Doctors etc will say it leads to schizophrenia etc. Ireland is quite conservative, especially outside of cities. Not many TDs will support the vote because it will make them look bad to their pious constituents and not enough people smoke it really to care enough.
I like a smoke sometimes but sure it's easy to get nowadays and easy to grow so who cares if it's legal or not?

Yes, it might be decriminalised for use, if that hasn’t happened already de facto, but I can’t see cafes selling it.

It won’t be legalised because a) most people don’t care and b) there’s a tendency towards prohibition and restriction already in alcohol (banning low priced alcohol) , tobacco (major campaigns against it, huge taxes) , and head shops etc.

Yes the vitners were partly responsible for the laws against cheap off licensed alcohol but it was also promoted by doctors. Doctors aren’t going to support this and the government listens to doctors.