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UFC FIGHT NIGHT BARBOZA VS LEE

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    #32
    Lukker-
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    Didn’t realise they made refs uniforms in kids sizes


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    #33
    0byme75341jo28
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    Never had I anticipated this fight being so boring.


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    #34
    Amazingfun
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    Congrats to Frankie , he almost made me cry there talkin to Felder. Very touching.


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    #35
    Amazingfun
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    C'mon Barboza!


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    #36
    Jamiekelly
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    Kevin Lee doing some impromptu break dancing after that kick.

    gif in the making...


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    #37
    Ultimate Seduction
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    Best chicken dance I've ever seen. How did Barboza not finish him. Fair play to Lee for getting the win after that. Didn't watch the fight yet but reading it as a Khabib like domination from lee


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    #38
    mailburner
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    Lee was outstanding overall, insane cardio, great striking and taking edson down at will
    I'd like to see him get khabib though I'd imagine he'll need another fight or two for his chance, the loss against ferguson might be the best thing that ever happened him
    edson had his chance though in round three but outclassed besides


    average card for me, johns like someone said was outclassed by sterling, wasn't even competitive

    willis just stood there waiting to counter, was hoping sherman might shake him up, did well to survive after being clipped though.

    could have called the frankie cub result after 2/3 mins
    la flare garcia was painful
    hooker I really like, no telling how good he could become even though miller is well past it now.


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    #39
    mailburner
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    Ultimate Seduction wrote: »
    Best chicken dance I've ever seen. How did Barboza not finish him. Fair play to Lee for getting the win after that. Didn't watch the fight yet but reading it as a Khabib like domination from lee


    Nearly hit the ceiling, one clean punch was all that was needed possible but would have been such an undeserved winner even if I backed edson


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    #40
    finglashoop
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    seanhynes wrote: »
    Dodgy nj fight commisoner in the octagon too to influence the decision for the referee, the Georgian should get a submission denial bonus of the night

    How does the ref call a tko after the bell? The fight is over.

    I would have thought he wins by submission or it goes to a decision. The ref ended the fight after the horn to my eye


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    #41
    finglashoop
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    seanhynes wrote: »
    Dodgy nj fight commisoner in the octagon too to influence the decision for the referee, the Georgian should get a submission denial bonus of the night

    How does the ref call a tko after the bell? The fight is over.

    I would have thought he wins by submission or it goes to a decision. The ref ended the fight after the horn to my eye


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    #42
    Mellor
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    Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »
    What an end to that fight, his neck will be sore for a few days.

    I only caught the finish highlight. https://streamable.com/pkriu
    And found it a bit worrying to watch. Looked like he KO'd himself on the takedown, then came around in a mounted guillotine.
    The legs and arms flailing about looked like he was choked out at least once and came around as he adjusted.
    seanhynes wrote: »
    I still don't think it was the correct call , the ref didn't stop the fight before the bell,the Georgian won 2-1 at least , bull**** call he was the better fighter
    finglashoop wrote: »
    How does the ref call a tko after the bell? The fight is over.

    I would have thought he wins by submission or it goes to a decision. The ref ended the fight after the horn to my eye

    I'm not certain, but I think NJ utilised video replays for situations like this.
    I'm guessing the commissioner noticed was KO'd on the takedown, so told the ref to call the TKO. He was out at the bell also, so technical submissions was also an option.
    If you're out when the ref cals the fight, you lost.


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    #43
    finglashoop
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    Mellor wrote: »
    I only caught the finish highlight. https://streamable.com/pkriu
    And found it a bit worrying to watch. Looked like he KO'd himself on the takedown, then came around in a mounted guillotine.
    The legs and arms flailing about looked like he was choked out at least once and came around as he adjusted.




    I'm not certain, but I think NJ utilised video replays for situations like this.
    I'm guessing the commissioner noticed was KO'd on the takedown, so told the ref to call the TKO. He was out at the bell also, so technical submissions was also an option.
    If you're out when the ref cals the fight, you lost.

    If the ref deems him not to be out and ends the fight is he able to change it retrospectively?


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    #44
    Lukker-
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    Being conscious isn't a binary thing. If you are at 80% out of it you can't defend yourself. He was clearly out of it at the bell, his eyes are glazed over and his legs go from kicking to like an autopilot twitch. I thought he did enough to survive until I saw him when they separated.


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    #45
    Lukker-
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    finglashoop wrote: »
    If the ref deems him not to be out and ends the fight is he able to change it retrospectively?

    New rules state yes, replays can be used for a fight ending sequence, and because it was at the end of the fight they can call it.


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    #46
    Mellor
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    finglashoop wrote: »
    If the ref deems him not to be out and ends the fight is he able to change it retrospectively?

    If the ref deemed him not to be out at the bell, then it would have proceeded to decision. It was only a finish because the ref deem him to be out. As far as I'm aware, it's 100% the refs decision at the time.


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    #47
    finglashoop
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    Mellor wrote: »
    If the ref deemed him not to be out at the bell, then it would have proceeded to decision. It was only a finish because the ref deem him to be out. As far as I'm aware, it's 100% the refs decision at the time.

    He didn't look to breaking them up due to submission, usually a ref does it with more urgency to get the fighter to release the Choke


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    #48
    Mellor
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    He wasn't breaking due to the submission. Other guy didn't tap, and when he checked on him once or twice he responded* so he let it go on.
    But when he actually broke them up. Polish guy was very clearly out - which means he lost.

    On review they called it with the TKO (for the self KO I'd guess), personally I'd have called it a technical submission as that was really obvious. The exact situation came up with Big John a while ago. After an Invicta fighter choked out her opponent, lost the decision win AND lost an appeal. Some hillbilly commission.

    https://twitter.com/marc_raimondi/status/820469379372490753


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