Can the book be beaten... here for a year.

longshotvalue

There is a lot of unfair comments here. Anyone that doesn't realize that a 100 point downturn is well within reason hasn't a clue. Over all the treads as far as i know he is still up, which is not easy to do. It literally takes thousands of bets before any opinion can be made.

I've had about 10 of those 100 bets tread and one of those lost 140 points. Its easily done.

He should be thanked for the work put in and if lads don't want to back them then don't.

bookman2

The criticism of the kids selections is over the top imo, then again you should be able to take criticism if you post threads like this. Personally I don't really care how someone comes up with a selection(although when someone is using another paid website with trainers comments to come up with selections it doesn't inspire confidence) its the profit/loss that I only care about.

Auroras_encore

5.15 florencio

lab man

Eagles nest Chelmsford 6.15 this eve, best of luck

bookman2

Auroras_encore wrote: »

5.15 florencio

Well done

2ndcoming

bookman2 wrote: »

Well done

PP stream froze, did he get up?

bookman2

2ndcoming wrote: »

PP stream froze, did he get up?

Yes but race could be voided.

Auroras_encore

I'm that good my horse wins in the dark, while Jerry can't get 1 in 1000

Auroras_encore

bookman2 wrote: »

Yes but race could be voided.

I'd imagine so ha

2ndcoming

Anyone care to elaborate, stuck in work here wondering

bookman2

They will have to void the race.

2ndcoming

bookman2 wrote: »

They will have to void the race.

Because....

bookman2

2ndcoming wrote: »

Anyone care to elaborate, stuck in work here wondering

Power cut on home turn ran the race in dark apparently

2ndcoming

€10 free bet on it which I'd imagine I'll lose so... this fúcking thread :pac::pac::pac:

First winner put up in months and it still manages to cost me money, you couldn't make it up :pac::pac::pac:

bookman2

2ndcoming wrote: »

€10 free bet on it which I'd imagine I'll lose so... this fúcking thread :pac::pac::pac:

First winner put up in months and it still manages to cost me money, you couldn't make it up :pac::pac::pac:

Void and rest of meeting abandoned

Cherry_Cola

Maybe it's the thread that's bad luck! Close and open another?

kiers47

Owners got their prize money anyway

https://twitter.com/osbornejamie/status/1062430282865881090?s=19

del roy

177 bets
13 winners
-105pts

Lads
I know the selections are terrible however to be fair to Jerry I will continue to put them up.

So he will either look like a tit or a jammy git for getting out of the hole.

I have asked Jerry to send me the full write ups and he said he will. After Jerry I would say I LOST the most, thats gambling. However I don't want the thread to turn in to a slagging match or mods to close it so lets keep opinions to ourselves unless you want to point out something before it runs.

Todays (lay) only joking.

3.50 Going Native 2pts e/w 7/1

Going Native ran three times at Southwell finishing in the first three places in all races. The recent course races were off a O.R in the mid sixties, today Going Native runs off 55 with the jock taking a further 5LB off.
The sire SPEIGHSTOWN is 11/104 in handicaps at Southwell. All eleven winners were under 10/1, he is also 31/104 in the places.

Jerry.

PS
I have asked Del to continue to post My bets up no matter how bad this run gets. I predict I will at worst break even before my time on here is up.

Collie D

del roy wrote: »

I have asked Del to continue to post My bets up no matter how bad this run gets. I predict I will at worst break even before my time on here is up.

Confidence. Best of luck. Have backed maybe one or two of the 177 runners but following intently.

del roy

Collie D wrote: »

Confidence. Best of luck. Have backed maybe one or two of the 177 runners but following intently.

Confidence.


General Custards last words,


"where did all them fooking Indians come from."

kiers47

So not as to moan afterwards. But it is 100% no questions asked a bad bet to bet each way on this race. This horse may win. He may even place but the place part of this bet is a horrendous bet for the punter. This is the problem with the current way markets work with each way bets there are some races where it is great to bet each way and some that are terrible. This one falls into the second category.

I wish you luck with it but there is no chance you will win in the long run betting each way in these races.

kiers47

I want to add to the above. This is not a criticism of the selection i really haven't looked into the horse or other horses. This is a criticism of the method. It is in the bookies favor to take an each way bet in that race as you are paying way under the odds on the place part of the bet.

The Mig

One for tomorrow :pac:

del roy

Can't give this one away, 16 on betfair.

Mostly Harmless

kiers47 wrote: »

So not as to moan afterwards. But it is 100% no questions asked a bad bet to bet each way on this race. This horse may win. He may even place but the place part of this bet is a horrendous bet for the punter. This is the problem with the current way markets work with each way bets there are some races where it is great to bet each way and some that are terrible. This one falls into the second category.

I wish you luck with it but there is no chance you will win in the long run betting each way in these races.

Agree 100%, have raised this same point on this thread a few times regarding the bizarre choice of EW bets but never really got answer as to why he plays this way.

There is a cats chance in hell of place part of these sort of bets being profitable long term, win lose or draw bets like this are not +ev, you would do better to bet them win and place on machine show.

bookman2

Ahh when you are operating off a very low strike rate backing EW like today is probably the way to go as the long losing runs will be hard to cope with mentally.

del roy

9/2 in the place market now.

Mostly Harmless

I agree there are cases where it's preferable to keep yourself sane but it's a certain fact that you are giving back a % of your long term ROI by betting this way, there have been some pretty bonkers EW bets on this thread in past and just does not make sense to me, that's all.

del roy

del roy wrote: »

Can't give this one away, 16 on betfair.

they knew, never put in race.

kiers47

In fairness it was a hands and heels apprentice handicap. So not getting it in the race is fairly explanatory and if you are betting in it you know what you are getting into.