AI Senior Hurling- Liam McCarthy Cup 2018

Mokuba

He may as well not be there.

It's the fashionable way to referee a hurling game these days - give absolutely nothing.

You can have a flowing game of hurling and blow for clear fouls too. Ridiculous stuff.

The White Feather

No matter who wins and it looks like Limerick now, this ref has put in a very poor performance. Worst I have seen in a while. Missed a load on both sides

lawred2

Terrible game of hurling here. Fair play to Limerick in that they turned up physically but I've not seen Tipp so gutless in a long long time.

tayto lover

The hurling is gone as bad as the football.

Mokuba

lawred2 wrote: »

Terrible game on hurling here. Fair play to Limerick in that they turned up physically but I've not seen Tipp so gutless in a long long time.

Last year against Cork, also in the first game.

thelad95

I think the conditions did have a big effect on the game but that doesn’t excuse some woeful free taking and shooting.

In a way, the purists will say that today a bit of the magic is lost because that’s an enormous victory for limerick but there was no jubilant scenes at the end as it’s now only 2 points on the board.

PTH2009

Tipp under serious pressure now. Playing 3 weeks in a row with Cork at home, Waterford in Limerick and Clare at home.

Good result for Limerick with them having going into the rest week before they face Cork on Sat 2nd June

Mantis Toboggan

Shefflin spirken away to himself can't hide his delight with the tipp performance.

digzy

Tyson Fury wrote: »

Shefflin spirken away to himself can't hide his delight with the tipp performance.

Tbf someone behind the cameras said/ did something. I saw loughnane smirk too at the same time

Motivator

Desperate game of hurling. Tipperary very poor again today. Their performance against Galway last August probably glossed over their poor year. They just never looked like growing in to the game at all today. The free flowing, all action hurling they played in 2016 seems like an awful long time ago now.

It was a very strange game/atmosphere, the only exciting passage of play in the whole game was the 15 seconds before the first Tipp goal. Tipp need to raise things in a big way before next week or they’re under pressure to go anywhere this summer. No intensity today and I thought their hurling was poor all around the pitch.

Realt Dearg Sec

Tyson Fury wrote: »

Shefflin spirken away to himself can't hide his delight with the tipp performance.

If he was, he was smirking on behalf of his whole county. Big cheer in Nowlan park when the result was announced.

OldMrBrennan83

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C__MC

You’d miss the buzz of the old format

Packed house- proper championship hurling. No excuses. I just don’t like this league format. Not the same

C__MC

Btw

Kk making hard work of Offaly

10 left 1.16-1.11

dastardly00

C__MC wrote: »

You’d miss the buzz of the old format

Packed house- proper championship hurling. No excuses. I just don’t like this league format. Not the same

There hasn't been packed houses in the Munster quarter- and semi-finals for years.

LuckyGent88

**** me, we have missed opportunity after opportunity so far.

dastardly00

A few minutes left, KK 2-19 Offaly 1-13

C__MC

Fist pumping cringe- Wexford winning as is kk

grbear

Tyson Fury wrote: »

C__MC wrote: »

I don’t understand the GAA logic in relegating Offaly or Dublin-
Serves no purpose for them in joe mc donagh cup?

Well you could say the same about the top teams in the Joe McDonagh. There needs to be the possibility of promotion to provide incentive.

I do think though a better system would be for the two bottom group teams to play off in a relegation play off, with the loser then taking on the winner of the Joe McDonagh for a place in the championship.

Worst case scenario the team gets relegated and if they're good enough they'll win the Joe McDonagh and they'll be back in an all Ireland quarter final.

I'm not a fan of that sort of playoff as the team from the top tier could in theory lose five matches in a row and stay up by winning one while the team in the Joe McDonagh could win six in a row and still miss out. Theres also the issue of when the play off would take place.
Would the Joe McDonagh team have to play the play off before their All-Ireland match or would it take place once they get knocked out?
If they had to play before then the whole Joe McDonagh tournament would need to start earlier but that'd have the same flaw as last year's setup where all the lower tier teams seasons were effectively finished before the ground hardened up. Playing after the Joe McDonagh team eventually drops out of the All-Ireland race would give their relegation playoff opponents a great window to tailor their gameplan for the match.

I think the winner of the tournament needs the prize of straight promotion to really make it a tournament teams will celebrate winning. Maybe extend Leinster to six teams to avoid relegating Offaly or Dublin (based on form it'll be one of them that finishes bottom) this year. If Kerry win the Joe McDonagh let them into Leinster.

OldMrBrennan83

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STB.

Dubs were 5 points down and 1 up before extra time.


Wexford won it in the last 2 mins of extra time.

grbear

Patww79 wrote: »

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I agree in theory but there's no way it'd get through congress.

C__MC

Wexford beat the dubs by two

Dublin v Offaly virtually a relegation play off on the June bank holiday

Mantis Toboggan

Patww79 wrote: »

Just relegate one of Munster if they're bottom. If you finish last out of five then tough titties.

Don't want to be relegated? - win more games.

No Joe McDonagh team should be promoted unless they can beat the last placed team in the provisional group in a play off.

OldMrBrennan83

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LuckyGent88

He was out cold before he once again landed on his head again.

Mantis Toboggan

Patww79 wrote: »

Then same should apply for Leinster. The difference between the two is the big joke.

Yeah, it should apply to both munster and leinster.

OldMrBrennan83

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LuckyGent88

At least a foot out of play ffs

Noveight

Nash very poor there.

OldMrBrennan83

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BonnieSituation

Patww79 wrote: »

Christ I'd love to give Canning a clatter every time he says Lee-Han. He's not Chinese.

Thought it was just me.

BonnieSituation

Patrick Horgan just scored from 95m out. Does anyone else hate that that it's possible these days to do that?

C__MC

Same old Clare

If I here about the potential they have anymore, will go through the roof. They have done nothing since 2013

Bonniedog

New structure is standing up.

Alpha_zero

commercial break

spurshero

C__MC wrote: »

Same old Clare

If I here about the potential they have anymore, will go through the roof. They have done nothing since 2013

Probaly no such thing as a soft all Ireland put if ever there was 2013 was it.

BonnieSituation

spurshero wrote: »

Probaly no such thing as a soft all Ireland put if ever there was 2013 was it.

That's what annoyed me more about us throwing it away with Cork in the SF.

Could've done the double.

Alpha_zero

Hurling the sport of farmers

BonnieSituation

Alpha_zero wrote: »

Hurling the sport of farmers artists

FYP

Straight Talker

The Domhnall O'Donovan curse continues.;) Clare have not beaten Cork in championship hurling, since that 2013 all ireland final replay.;)

Straight Talker

BonnieSituation wrote: »

That's what annoyed me more about us throwing it away with Cork in the SF.

Could've done the double.

It was a close one alright.But Dublin had 75 years since 1938 to win a hurling all Ireland at that point!But Dublin hurling has never recovered from that defeat.5 years later and Liam McCarthy coming back to Dublin, seems as far off as ever.I actually think you would have beaten Clare in that final.We were way too loose and open in both the drawn game and replay.Dublin would have strangled the life out of Clare, if they got to that final.

OldMrBrennan83

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Straight Talker

Patww79 wrote: »

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I think Dublin were on the slide by the time Ger Cunningham arrived really.The Anthony Daly years were a freak.Dublin were never Liam McCarthy contenders prior to Daly arriving, and i think no matter if it was Ger Cunningham Brian Cody Jesus Budda or Alla as manager, Dublin were on the slide regardless.

btw It was the Dublin county board that kept Cunningham in the job.So they must have been happy enough with things.

BonnieSituation

Straight Talker wrote: »

It was a close one alright.But Dublin had 75 years since 1938 to win a hurling all Ireland at that point!But Dublin hurling has never recovered from that defeat.5 years later and Liam McCarthy coming back to Dublin, seems as far off as ever.I actually think you would have beaten Clare in that final.We were way too loose and open in both the drawn game and replay.Dublin would have strangled the life out of Clare, if they got to that final.

Absolutely agree with every part of this. We were men possessed in 2013

JohnnyFlash

Not classic fare in either game today. Limerick look the standout team to try and challenge Galway based on the matches so far. Have a good work rate, young, physical, strong in the tackle. Shooting is a serious problem - could have won by 10 or more today, and the same wastefulness cost them in the League semi-final. You'd have to acknowledge that Limerick hurling is in the best place it has been in a good few years.

Tipp were very poor. I know it's early in the season, but there's no time for ramping up with the new format. Paddy Power have put them out to 4/1 for the AI. Hard to know about Cork based on today's performance. Did enough, which is probably what they set out to do. They've some lovely natural hurlers, but they aren't the finished article by any means. The new format will suit them.

Wexford ran close again by Dublin, who have put in two solid performances, but look like they will be relegation material at the end of June. Not sure that will be good for the game in either Offaly or Dublin.

C__MC

2013 was a freak year for hurling.
Kk were decimated by injuries

Browney7

BonnieSituation wrote: »

Patrick Horgan just scored from 95m out. Does anyone else hate that that it's possible these days to do that?

Yeah I'd be in favour of the ball being made a bit heavier

Joe_ Public

Hate giving out about refs, and it had little material effect on the outcome, but Owens seriously needs a crash course on how to apply the advantage rule. Infuriatingly inconsistent today.

Edit: should say McGrath of course!

BonnieSituation

Browney7 wrote: »

Yeah I'd be in favour of the ball being made a bit heavier

If the ridges on the ball were made "taller" you would have less striking contact with the sliotar thus remving power behind it. Both need to be considered and proper standardisation needs to take place.

Hitting it that length is no fun to watch.